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On the other hand, his output could even be better next season and every club on the planet will want him in 2020 and then if he lights up Euros we could be looking at a world record fee for a 20 year old - which is fine if he's doing his stuff.. But then you think we could have signed him for 70 to 100 million which looks like a bargain suddenly. Some posters already made that point about Sterling. There isn't a person in a world that didn't think his asking price was incredibly steep. Point is, there will always be a degree of risk but at the end of the day, I think we can agree that he's worth that risk now. I'd rather we go for players with huge potential than don't to be honest with you.
The thing is he has shown the quality! Even if his output reduces next season, its all about consistency which is a common issue with young players. It would be mental to wait for another season. That would be so Arsenal like.
 

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Fair point, but if we were to go with a diamond, Joao Felix would be ideal. If we are going to stick with 433, I'd go with Sancho. I'd be delighted with either.
it's possible to play Sancho in the 9 and two strikers either side Rashford/Martial/Lukaku obviously he will be first choice on the right but he could fit in the diamond system easily if the manager wants to experiment with it. or on the left.
 

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We should have a good chance of signing him if we go for him. We're the biggest English club and he's already left the only one that can offer more money than us.
 

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On the other hand, his output could even be better next season and every club on the planet will want him in 2020 and then if he lights up Euros we could be looking at a world record fee for a 20 year old - which is fine if he's doing his stuff.. But then you think we could have signed him for 70 to 100 million which looks like a bargain suddenly. Some posters already made that point about Sterling. There isn't a person in a world that didn't think that his asking price was incredibly steep at the time and what a bargain he turned out to be. Point is, there will always be a degree of risk but at the end of the day, I think we can agree that he's worth that risk now. I'd rather we go for players with huge potential than don't to be honest with you.
All ifs and buts.

So lets see what reality is, instead of doing mental cartwheels to substantiate what would be the first time a player who has played as little as Sancho has (currently, might make Mbappe's appearances for Monaco before end of season) signing for £100 million
 

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The thing is he has shown the quality! Even if his output reduces next season, its all about consistency which is a common issue with young players. It would be mental to wait for another season. That would be so Arsenal like.
Yep and Sterling showed it too. I'd actually be surprised if Sanchos form didn't dip a bit. It's natural at that age unless you're a generational talent.
 

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All ifs and buts.

So lets see what reality is, instead of doing mental cartwheels to substantiate what would be the first time a player who has played as little as Sancho has (currently, might make Mbappe's appearances for Monaco before end of season) signing for £100 million
Reality is as an 18 year old he has one of the best stats in the last decade. That's the reality.
 

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All ifs and buts.

So lets see what reality is, instead of doing mental cartwheels to substantiate what would be the first time a player who has played as little as Sancho has (currently, might make Mbappe's appearances for Monaco before end of season) signing for £100 million
Maybe the club and their scouting department thinks this already? Or ar ethey meant to wait until Redcafe agrees?
 

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All ifs and buts.

So lets see what reality is, instead of doing mental cartwheels to substantiate what would be the first time a player who has played as little as Sancho has (currently, might make Mbappe's appearances for Monaco before end of season) signing for £100 million
But you're the one with 'ifs and buts' as well.

I find it far more likely he wont be able to keep it up next season and will create and score less goals, leading to the hype dying down a little bit and the transfer fee as well. He'd still be a really good right winger and an expensive player but each would be toned down a little.
We don't know what will happen. I personally think Sancho is a world class talent and we should absolutely try to do everything in our power to bring this kid here. If you don't think so and we should seek and alternative then thats okay. We'll agree to disagree on that.
 

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If history is anything to go by, I don't see how this could happen.

These threads never end well, really, with United seemingly never interested in young players that look destined to be the next big thing.

The last player of the sort who joined was De Gea and, before him, Rooney. Why United never go or get what seem like obvious signings is beyond me, but this has been a case for a long while now.
 

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All ifs and buts.

So lets see what reality is, instead of doing mental cartwheels to substantiate what would be the first time a player who has played as little as Sancho has (currently, might make Mbappe's appearances for Monaco before end of season) signing for £100 million
where did you get 100m? the latest reports is 70-80m.
 

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If history is anything to go by, I don't see how this could happen.

These threads never end well, really, with United seemingly never interested in young players that look destined to be the next big thing.

The last player of the sort who joined was De Gea and, before him, Rooney. Why United never go or get what seem like obvious signings is beyond me, but this has been a case for a long while now.
The major difference is this a big English talent who we've been interested in for ages and it's very well documented.
 

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Because Sancho would cost over 3 times as much? The same reason we sign all players that aren't quite as good as the world's best player in a position
Money matters, but I think availability is the bigger issue as to why we don't buy more world class players. Unless it's ridiculous like Neymar and Mbappe, United would be interested in all world class talents.
 

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If history is anything to go by, I don't see how this could happen.

These threads never end well, really, with United seemingly never interested in young players that look destined to be the next big thing.

The last player of the sort who joined was De Gea and, before him, Rooney. Why United never go or get what seem like obvious signings is beyond me, but this has been a case for a long while now.
Can you name another club in England who buys the next ‘sure thing’ as a kid? I can’t think of any.

Only other signing I can think of is Hazard and we obviously tried our hardest but he chose Chelsea.
 

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If history is anything to go by, I don't see how this could happen.

These threads never end well, really, with United seemingly never interested in young players that look destined to be the next big thing.

The last player of the sort who joined was De Gea and, before him, Rooney. Why United never go or get what seem like obvious signings is beyond me, but this has been a case for a long while now.
We bought Martial.

Last three seasons can be discarded because Jose was at the helm. He is the last manager a good young non defensive player would want to sign for.
 

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Can you name another club in England who buys the next ‘sure thing’ as a kid? I can’t think of any.

Only other signing I can think of is Hazard and we obviously tried our hardest but he chose Chelsea.
I agree, and this is a part of the reason why no English club has won CL since Chelsea fluked it in 2012.

We bought Martial.

Last three seasons can be discarded because Jose was at the helm. He is the last manager a good young non defensive player would want to sign for.
Martial was a promising young player, yes, but he was not really in that tier. Not as much competition for him as for the top top talents.
 

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Why couldn’t he go back to City? Remember Pogba?
Pogba had nothing but good things to say about United when he joined Juventus. Go look up some if his first interviews. He is saying he left for game time and how he loves United.

Sancho on the other hand has no history of showing City affection. He is a Chelsea fan. Good mates with Rio and has been seen celebrating us winning the game versus PSG.

Although for that one you could argue he is happy for his England teammates.

Basically, there is nothing to show he liked it at city at all. Also Pep kind of shit on him just last week.
 

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I dont think adapting to the PL would be a huge difficulty. Players from Bundesliga have been thriving here. Sane, De Bruyne, Firmino, Auba. Plus he has played in England before. Its a no brainer really.
I’m definitely in favour of signing him, I think we’re crying out for a player who can do what he does for Dortmund.
 

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We have many youngsters here who will be every bit as good or better than Sancho. Ole will give them the chance and they will shine, Just watch and see.
 

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We have many youngsters here who will be every bit as good or better than Sancho. Ole will give them the chance and they will shine, Just watch and see.
We can't wait around for a right Winger. You want us to go how many years without one? Cause we have had one since Nani. Use your head please. If they are good enough Sancho won't stop them breaking into the team. They will displace the likes of Mata who has been awful this season
 

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We have many youngsters here who will be every bit as good or better than Sancho. Ole will give them the chance and they will shine, Just watch and see.
:lol: this is such a classic Utd fan point of view. Blind optimism based on very little. We ALWAYS hype up our youngsters to a ridiculous degree, every season, we've apparently got the next big thing coming through. It's honestly always been this way for as long as I can remember.

That's not me saying we don't have a good crop coming through, but there's no guarantees that we have "many" that will be as good or better than Sancho.
 

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Sancho is better than anyone we could play on the right wing right now and he would instantly improve the attacking threat on the wing which we have missed for far too long.

He also has the added bonus of being English young and can only improve year on year. I would hate to see someone else buy him and watch over the years while thinking look what we could of had.

If we have a chance to sign him we should be all over it.
 

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We have many youngsters here who will be every bit as good or better than Sancho. Ole will give them the chance and they will shine, Just watch and see.
He would be the best right winger in our squad and is 18 years old :lol: This is not a good argument against signing him in my opinion.
 

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If Brazil has Neymar, this is England's version of Neymar. The one kid that will become world class player. He is in teen and yet he is performing consistently.

Remember Rooney at 18? Ronaldo at 19? This is that kind of signing.
 

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We have many youngsters here who will be every bit as good or better than Sancho. Ole will give them the chance and they will shine, Just watch and see.
Who exactly? Chong? He's 4 months older than Sancho and has barely had a sniff in our first team. No doubt he could end up being a good player for us but he's not there yet, Sancho is and has been producing insane numbers that Chong can't even do in reserve level. I like Chong, he looks a good player and someone we can certainly use if he continues development, but he's still far off from Sanchos level. Greenwood is a quality player as well no doubt, but they play in different positions and have got different styles.

We haven't had a right winger since Valencia got moved to fullback and now that we're linked to a huge prospect, some people are disproving?! I'm baffled. :lol:
 

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No good ones are available really
Its not your money. Big clubs spend big on top talent these days you know. Maybe we should be looking for the next Bebe or Obertan
Its not my money you are right, but how much is Ole going to get to strengthen the team? £150 mill? £200 mill? Seems a lot to spunk on a prospect with very little left to get in a CD RB which we also need as a minimum.
 

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Of course it bloody well is, they're not exactly young n learning at that point now are they.
They will still be inconsistent because thats the kind of position it is, but they will be way less rough and more polished at that point than they would be at the age of 17 - 19.
Of course they will be more ''polished'' but not peak, peak years will be from 26-28 when they have that experience needed alongside the skillset and decision making
 

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We have many youngsters here who will be every bit as good or better than Sancho. Ole will give them the chance and they will shine, Just watch and see.
Deluded as hell. The only one as good as Sancho is Greenwood, but he's a completely different player. Chong is nowhere near as ready yet, but has potential.

We all want to give our academy players the best chance, but lets be honest 9/10 of them bomb.
 

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Looks good playing for Dortmund. So did Mkhitaryan.
For the money being quoted it would be a massive gamble.
 

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Deluded as hell. The only one as good as Sancho is Greenwood, but he's a completely different player. Chong is nowhere near as ready yet, but has potential.

We all want to give our academy players the best chance, but lets be honest 9/10 of them bomb.
Gomes deserves a chance to be perfectly honest. When he has come on for the first team he had done well.

Agree about Chong doesnt look ready as yet.
 

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Yeah, we should get a proven world class player with PL experience, just like we did for the left wing. That turned out just fine..
The last wonderkid we bought for the left wing Martial was going to be a superstar as well. Look how inconsistant he is at the moment. Hes not going to win you the Premier league. Im not saying Sancho will be anything like that, but could be and at £100 million its a massive gamble after one season in a different league. What transfer kitty is available? £150 200 million? Where does that leave us then getting a top CB and RB in?
 

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Pogba had nothing but good things to say about United when he joined Juventus. Go look up some if his first interviews. He is saying he left for game time and how he loves United.

Sancho on the other hand has no history of showing City affection. He is a Chelsea fan. Good mates with Rio and has been seen celebrating us winning the game versus PSG.

Although for that one you could argue he is happy for his England teammates.

Basically, there is nothing to show he liked it at city at all. Also Pep kind of shit on him just last week.
There is also nothing to show he wouldn't go back to City. Most of the reasons cited on here why he wouldn't move to City are mostly wishful thinking. There's no substance to them. The only serious reason why a move to City is not likely now is that City don't really need him. But if his further development indicates that his ceiling might be higher than Sterling's and Sane's, they could try to convince him to go to them again. Of course, a move to United is much more likely right now but a transfer to City is not improbable at all, especially given words like these:

"He is a great player, as you can see on and off the pitch," Sancho told beIN Sports when asked about Sterling.

"He is a humble guy and I am just so delighted I am sharing the pitch with him and obviously I look up to him as a role model and especially starting with him was a great feeling."
 

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If Brazil has Neymar, this is England's version of Neymar. The one kid that will become world class player. He is in teen and yet he is performing consistently.

Remember Rooney at 18? Ronaldo at 19? This is that kind of signing.
I’m not sure if Sancho is on that level. Although if he comes close to it he would be worth the 70/80m being quoted
 
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