Mkhitaryan and Kagawa were much older and just because a couple of players from one club haven't worked out doesn't mean we should black list Dortmund. It's impossible to buy good players if you refuse to buy from inferior teams and leagues.
It's true that attackers who looked great at Dortmund haven't fared as well outside. Mkhi. Kagawa. Gotze. Dembele.
I dont think anyone is suggesting black listing Dortmund.
Maybe due to Dortmund having a good system that gets the most out of their players, but still doesn't prove anything. Dembele?
He’s absolutely no where near that level. Is he talented, yes, is he Neymar, Mbappe, Rooney, Dembele,Ronaldo, Messi talented. No, doesn’t look it.
Gomes will get his chance, but it'll be as a 10, 8 and maybe a 6 if he can master it well. He isn't a wide player.
Dembele scores or assists ever 98 minutes for Barcelona, how is that not faring well? It is better than is Dortmund output in a tougher league. Even Gotze was scoring or assisting ever 100 minutes in his first season at Munich. He didn't end up fitting in and he was blamed for lots of things but his first two seasons there were actually quite good and his third was ruined by injuries. Then you've got Auba doing great at Arsenal, Immobile is smashing Serie A despite not even being good at Dortmund, and Perisic has done quite well too. So it isn't really true at all.
I think it’s way to early to say he can’t reach Neymar, Mbappe, Rooney or Dembele level. All we know he’s a young player with great potential, much depends on his ability to work hard and hunger, but with luck and good environment I’d say he can well be a fantastic player
Anything can happen I guess but within 5 minutes of seeing those players mentioned for the first time you knew they had something incredibly special. Doesn’t mean they will get to the level their promise showed but I don’t watch Sancho and think wow, this guy is something truly special. Think he looks like he could be a really really good player but seeing comparisons to Neymar, Mbappe and the likes is a bit of a joke.
What? Dembele is doing great
Hes 18 and literally only the best player in the history of football has more assists then him this season. Impressing for the national team now as well. He is stupidly good.
No, they don't. They sold Dembele for about £135m with add-ons (add-ons that can be easily matched such as number of games and every La Liga title) refusing few bids before. And that is after Dembele refused to train.
Hazard level potential.
Eden or Dukes?
In Sancho's case there's an English premium and age factor to consider. His resale value is likely to be stronger compared to a Kagawa or Mkhitaryan, should be fail to live up to standards that is.
Not if hes a one season wonder like we dont know that he isnt.
If you've been watching Sancho and can't see the quality then I'm not sure another ten pages of arguing the toss is going to change that. But the vast majority of people watching Sancho do see it. He's top drawer.
And Arsenal fans would have said the same about Sanchez
Problem is, the market is inflated and 100m isn't as much as people think. De Ligt is the same age and likely to go for an amount comparable to Sancho (minus the english premium and attacker premium that you would expect from Sancho).
I wasnt saying he should be
Ridiculous comparison. Sanchez was a fantastic player for Chile, Barca and Arsenal. He has declined in the last 2 years. Sancho is 18 and getting better. If he turns out as good as Sanchez and plays well until he's 28 then 80MIL would be a good price.
I never mentioned money. Not an issue for me, just questioning his supposed quality.
The comparison was between what people would say for someone playing well. Sancho is playing well. That doesnt mean he'll play well for us
If £100 million isnt much can you list me 10 players who were bought for that much
They normally do quite well in europe considering they generally spend less than the teams who give them problems. But yes they have a very fluid counter with lots of supporting players, you're right there.
He is fantastic. Aren't you also by mentioning those players in the same breath? Dembele isn't even close to the likes of Rooney, Messi and Mbappe as well.
Sanchez was not playing well when we bought him. No idea why this narrative started. He was having his worse season at Arsenal and people thought that it was due to no longer wanting to play there. Turns out he was just on the decline.
I didn’t say that I just don’t expect him to be a Utd player next season.
Not saying he wouldn't but it might be a factor in his thinking. The reasons for his leaving still apply now.
He was statistically the 15th best player in the league before he signed for us, which is 4 places behind Eriksen, 3 ahead of Mahrez and 5 ahead of Mane
Ok... so better to buy players who are not playing well for their clubs, so the price is lower? Gotcha.
No. The point is people get carried away and make up fantasies about how a player is definitely going to improve each season because they are "class" and never figure in loss of form, injuries and other problems that mean he might not get better. He might get worse.
