I agree. Quote £150m and see how desperate they are to sign him. No part exchange. We don't want one of their knackered cast-offs, just the money.
Pogba Future
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We're a business, and getting a huge cash injection, on top of the money we already have, will put us in a great position to sign the reinforcements we need.
If Zidane wants Pogba, that Kroos is on the way out is a given
It all comes down to what Pogba wants in the end
A much better idea would be keeping arguably the only world class talent in the outfield and using some of the money we already have to give him some new world class friends to play with.
What's surprising for me is that people think Real Madrid are less appealing then United, especially to foreign players.
When we were the best team in Europe they had more appeal. They may be having a poor season but we have been poor for years. Pogba does love this club, he has admitted, so if we do get top 4 I don't think he will agitate for a move, let's just hope we sign some top talent in the summer to get us back challenging.
Rubbish.
Why don’t we sell rashford and De Gea as well and then we will have so much money and a rubbish squad but look as long as we’ve money in the bank that’s the main thing.
Would anyone be that devastated if he left and we got a huge amount for him?
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
What good is a huge amount of money when chances are we'd either spend it terribly or not spend it at all.
I don't trust us to replace our stars, nothing suggests we're setup well enough to do the business thats required.
The board may not spend the necessary amount to fill the void. There's no point.
And world class players don't grow on trees- a club with ambition to reach the top doesn't afford to lose their best players.
Stop foaming at the mouth and think about this clearly.
We have a guy who clearly wants to go, and his lowlife agent is clearly going to pull every trick to get him out. He's showing no signs of accepting our offer of renewal, so if we delay selling beyond this summer his value will diminish significantly.
So what do we do? Cash in now and buy two or three players with the money? Or hang onto a player who doesn't want to play for us and can be difficult when he doesn't get his way?
Sorry if this punctures your deluded view of United and Pogba, but it's clear as day.
Do you think he's at the same level as Hazard?
If we're as badly run as you say, we're fecked whether Pogba stays or leaves!
People are putting faith in the management to spend money and spend it wisely. But I don't know where the faith has come from. Happy to see someone of this quality go out of the door and believing he'll be replaced well is something I can't get my head around. Seen us mess up too many times.
Well yeah, but its not the thread for that discussion!
I would not either. Pogba is a superb player but he should be sold at the right price if he wants to go. We have deeper issues to solve in our squad than him.
Rakatic and Couthino for Pogba.
Anyone take that ?
Anyone take that ?
If we sold Pogba, all our other issues would suddenly be tiny compared to the fact we'd have sold our one creative source and the only player who really makes anything happen from the middle of the pitch.
To be honest I'd be wary of signing any players from RM or Barca. We want our signings to think they're taking a step up, not down.
If this is true, tell them no less than £200M. Non-negotiable. No dragging the situation out. Answer in 48 hours and that's it, United will not be discussing this topic with them after that time frame.
If he or his agent kicks up a fuss, send him to the reserves. I'm tired of all this. Either you commit to United, or you feck off. Enough already.
Also, remind him of his responsibilities for this season. If he puts in one more shit performance, leave him out of the team.
If he or his agent kicks up a fuss, send him to the reserves. I'm tired of all this. Either you commit to United, or you feck off. Enough already.
Also, remind him of his responsibilities for this season. If he puts in one more shit performance, leave him out of the team.
We are not arsenal.
When on earth has this tactic worked in the past? It's not 1980, you won't get away with doing things like that.
Well whatever is the done thing in 2019. I don't care. I don't want him to leave but we need full commitment going forward now. It's an important summer coming up and we don't need these kinds of distractions.
If he wants to go, then his friends at Madrid need to cough up the cash. No negotiations, pay what we want. Otherwise he needs to get his head down or stick his ass on the bench.
I get your point: the real issue here is the lack of faith people have in our board, which is totally understandable. But let's hope they've learned the lessons of recent transfer windows. They've hired about a million new scouts over the last couple of years and they've briefed the media that they're going to go for lower-profile targets, which is promising.
Tbh I think we need a complete reset of our transfer strategy. The idea of going for mega-stars has been a massive flop. These players seem to always be dreaming of playing for RM or Barca. Or they've already been burnt by them. They certainly don't seem to fancy the idea of staying long-term at United.
We need to start signing emerging talents, players who are genuinely thrilled about playing for us and won't start dreaming of a move elsewhere as soon as they arrive. There's a lot of crap talked on here about United's traditions, but this is a genuine one: instead of buying ready-made stars, we find our own and make them ourselves.
What's worrying is that, at the moment, the only person who's talking about what a dream it is to play for the club is the manager. We need the players to start sharing that attitude.
No. Let's stop going for these obvious targets and leftovers no longer wanted by their clubs. We need to get other targets who fit our needs but most importantly aren't coming to us because they've been rejected by their current clubs.
After his efforts yesterday, and on previous occasions. if Real offered us 125 million I'd drive him to Spain myself.
Completely agree.
Reports are that this is what Ole is building towards, so I hope it's true.
A month ago people were ******* over him as crucial, best midfielder in the world, now after a few bad performances we're back to him being shit.
Great.
He's the least of our problems
Great.
He's the least of our problems
Basically this.
It's not as if the rest of the team is clicking and he's missing, overall our performances have been down all over the pitch.
I don't think anyone is saying he's shit? At least I'm not. But if he isn't committed then that's a problem. We don't need distractions and wasting energy on going back and forth with Rm, Pogba and his agent.
I don't think it's so clear.
Especially because Modric is 33 years old and he won't last forever.
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If it's a poor performance we're suddenly talking about player A and B not being committed, wants a move, isn't interested, player isn't smiling enough, player isn't this and that enough..It's mental. It was the same with Martial, when he wasn't playing well it wasn't enough that it was a poor performance, he just wasn't interested, wasn't professional enough, miserable etc etc. People are constantly looking for the worst possible reasons.
The entire team struggled yesterday, Watford did very well, it wasn't a case of one player looking out of sorts.
Given the changes that Ole wants to implement, it's hardly a surprise if we hit the wall, fitness levels aren't at the level they need to be. We've done exceptionally well just to get to the point we're at, no one thought we'd be anywhere near 4th at this point and no one thought we'd survive the PSG matches. We've done much better than expected and people have raised their expectations a bit too much based on it.
This notion that's being peddled every here and there that we 'don't deserve him' and it's all fine is hilarious.
Pogba FC is all good and well I see.
Pogba FC is all good and well I see.
I'm not responding to yesterday's game. I agree that our fitness levels (or lack of) are causing a problem right now. I'm just talking about the current rumours and Zidane flirting with getting Pogba. If something is in this, I don't want us wasting time on any kind of saga with RM and Pogba.
I want to see that he's committed. If not, and RM pay the money then good luck to him and we move on.
Varane + £100m
Nope.
Varian seems to me a 'softie'. He's in the right league. Don't think he's tough enough for the PL.
Real to cough up £200M. We look elsewhere for a defender.
I'd be disgusted if we made such a terrible deal.
I wouldn't mind him gone but we need his replacement in before he heads off.
Otherwise we're gonna get ripped apart with clubs knowing we have 200m in the bank..we simply can't waste money on spending 100m plus on 'good' players
Otherwise we're gonna get ripped apart with clubs knowing we have 200m in the bank..we simply can't waste money on spending 100m plus on 'good' players
If we got 200 million for him, I wouldn't be overly disappointed. He's very very good, don't get me wrong, but he's not consistent enough.
I think his future at UTD is closely intertwined with how competitive we will be the next season. If Pogba doesn't get insurances we'll spend big and challenge for the title (potentially CL as well, provided we end up in the top 4) he will very likely want a move to a club where he will be battling for trophies.
He will be entering his prime next season and it's logical to think he won't be willing to stick around battling for the top 4 and FA Cup when he can challenge for titles at Madrid.
Personally I'd love if we could keep him and surround him with enough talent to make us relevant on the big stage again, but can just as easily see him wanting to move.
But if he is to go, we should ask no less than a world record for him, because even if some of our fans don't rate him, the interest from the best clubs shows he's very much rated elsewhere. Also we should not accept dross in change, nor should we be accepting in return players that are not wanted in their clubs anymore like that trade proposed by some poster earlier, Pogba for Rakitic + Coutinho.
He will be entering his prime next season and it's logical to think he won't be willing to stick around battling for the top 4 and FA Cup when he can challenge for titles at Madrid.
Personally I'd love if we could keep him and surround him with enough talent to make us relevant on the big stage again, but can just as easily see him wanting to move.
But if he is to go, we should ask no less than a world record for him, because even if some of our fans don't rate him, the interest from the best clubs shows he's very much rated elsewhere. Also we should not accept dross in change, nor should we be accepting in return players that are not wanted in their clubs anymore like that trade proposed by some poster earlier, Pogba for Rakitic + Coutinho.