Not even sure he's a prem level footballer. He'd struggle to get game time at Cardiff. Is he really better than Hogg down there at Huddersfield? Working hard should be a pre requisite to play here, not a stand out feature. Mind you he's no Keane, Kante or Vidal in terms of defending. Don't get me started on his passing. You'd think it wouldn't get worse than Hererra, Matic and Fred, but it does.
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What are you on? He's the one who promoted him to the first team (without being forced to like what LVG did with Rashford! ), played him in big games last season against Seville, Pool and Chelsea and gave him massive credit in the POTY party last season while the fans here kept saying he's average and championship quality. Of course he deserves credit. Any logical person will say that. Not giving Mouirnho credit for getting Scott into the team is the hilarious thing. Any manager who is going to stay for 2 seasons will do some good things, even LVG too.He's really proven himself useful to us . Hilarious that some are crediting him to mourinho.
The fraud lined him up with Fellaini and Matic and even CB as pawn for his power struggle with the board. More games of that and he would've been finished for good. Ole has instilled confidence into him and he's a different player now.
Intensity and drive of this kid is amazing. He just gives everything everywhere. Doesn't care what happens and is built like a brick tank. I was okay with him starting over matic last year itself so it's nice to see he is actually capable of such levels.
Shouldn’t have been dropped after PSG; should be first choice now.
Im sorry Scott that you have to play with these other gutless pricks.
I hope Matic never plays again. McTominay is the man. Deserves to start vs Barcelona.
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The only player who played well. Maybe he doesn't have the ability others have, but he makes up for it in other ways. Keeps the game simple and more importantly he doesn't get fazed like other players do. He's incredibly mature for his age and lack of experience.
There’s always 1 who ruins it with stupid remarks. Why can't you just praise somebody without bashing another?
Are you in the wrong thread? if not this may be the worst post I've seen in a long time.
Only one who showed any kind of urgency and understanding of what it takes to win in a tough PL game like last night.
I've been screaming to play this guy instead of Matic but was shot down here . He's a very cleaver player that might not sound or play fancy but does basic things right and has a passion . We need players who are gonna dig in and give 100%.
Really love this kids mentality. He would get into a Fergie squad - not many others would even if they’re twice as gifted.
I said last night that I was struggling to think of any positives after the game, but that was harsh on Scott. To be fair to him, he had a good game. Good, goal which seemed to give him confidence to go forward even more. Lots of effort and did his job well. It's a shame his stand out performance for the club came in such a forgettable (or is it unforgettable for the wrong reasons?) game.
Nope, just not the type of person that's impressed by a midfielder who's not great at anything. A player takes a couple of shots here and there even scores one and now he's the second coming. It's this ridiculousness that has us where we are.
What in my post was so bad? the fact that his passing is rudimentary at best? did you not see the ball that led to Young's sending off? The fact that despite running around alot he didn't have a big defensive contribution?
Was really impressed by him last night!
So who has said this seriously?
Yeah, he was good yesterday, but his standout performance was PSG.
He seems to also grow a very good passing range recently. Might turn out into an awesome player if given time.
Spending is needed but how good does it feel when someone from academy can play better than these obnoxious multi-million stars.
The lad plays for a club not the swag. It's so obvious.
The lad plays for a club not the swag. It's so obvious.
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Good performance last night, the only right spot. I like how confident he looked and his goal showed that, he had a picture of exactly what he wanted to do and did it with no hesitation. I like how he and Pogba got forward early and often, it may have led to better results if Pogba and 2 of our front 3 didn't have a mare.
Rashford, lingard and mctominay has really helped to cover up for us being so poor in the market.
He has balls that's for sure. Every big game that he's been thrown in he's stood up for the team and delivered well.
Honestly LvG should send best bottle of wine to Lingard for that Wembley screamer. You would expect from Falcao or Di Maria that kind of finishing.
I remember Rashford sending us through to the Europa League final to save Jose's first season that could end in colossal fail.
If someone from the current youngsters can do similar job we really shouldn't hesitate because the club is still a sleeping giant.
Would be great if SAF could choose next youngster to be promoted and being played more.
The Boss is almost never wrong.
Interesting. I'm unsure about his passing in tight areas and the range of his passing might limit him in that role.
I agree but I don't think he's there for that. I think its to make use of him offensively in the air and competing for things. A good finish yesterday too. So most of the idea behind using Fellaini as a forward.
He's not a silky player to make something happen out of nothing, but he can work hard to try and win balls in dangerous areas and cause a threat. That kind of player
What the actual hell??? I really don't like making statements like this but for you an exception needs to be made- You Sir/Ma'am should not comment on football matches/players until you understand the game.
That makes sense actually, I can see that being handy there. Didn't he start out as a striker or attacking player? So in that sense he's going back to his natural position.
Yeah I believe so, an attacking player of some kind.
No doubt about him being a good squad player in Fergie's era, mate. (The current) him is what the squad player supposed to be. He's solid against big teams, and good against smaller teams. And there's still room for improvement also.
Ole has been all about trying to recover the ball higher up the pitch, at least in the first few games. I expect that's what he sees McTominay doing there. Recover the ball and quickly move it to someone more creative.
He did play CF in the youth teams but his goalscoring output was horrific.
What I like about him is that he didn't have single game(at least that I can remember) where he was totally out of place, positionally and with the ball, making mistakes, etc., like majority of our players were in some games. Even when he is average, he is doing the basics right, which I guess is a big compliment in recent United history with so many players not even doing the basics right.
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He is a good player that has been disrespected simply because he was introduced by Mourinho. People won't admit it.
Nobody - it's just symptomatic of the nonsense people tend to post these days.
It's more complicated than that, though that is part of it.
Initially, many of the people who follow the U18s and U23s assumed he would be rubbish because other youth players (Ben Pearson, Rothwell, Goss etc) had looked far more promising, yet never got a chance in the first team and are currently playing, or sat on the bench, in the Championship. Most of these posters are extremely knowledgeable about youth players but predicting how players will develop between say 19 and 24 is very difficult. A few realised during the Sevilla, Chelsea, Liverpool spell a year ago that Scott was actually a decent player but some remained blinded by his underwhelming performances in the U23s. Even this season there have been plenty of posts along the lines of - Ben Pearson looked great for the U21s/U23s and he is playing for Preston, therefore McTominay must be Championship standard or not even that.
Then you've got the group of United fans that you mentioned, who assumed that once Mourinho left, McTominay would be sent out on loan or sold. Scott was only in the squad because he was tall as Mourinho favours tall players. McTominay was only getting starts due to Mourinho punishing Pogba. Scott was Mourinho's project so he could claim to have followed United's youth tradition.
With most of the players who come through the youth system, you seem to get a group of haters, who think United should spend £300m each summer on players in their mid to late 20s. United shouldn't develop our own young players. Even Rashford attracts this criticism, Lingard more so, Tom Cleverley and Fletcher before that. McTominay shouldn't be getting starts, instead United should buy Ndombele, Neves, Rice, etc. A super performance against PSG isn't enough to convince this group that Scott is a more sensible option than buying x, y or z. This week I read a post that suggested McTominay should be sent out on loan next season.
Finally, there's a surprisingly large group of posters who think Fred deserves a run in the team because he cost £50m, therefore he must be superior to McTominay. There's also a few posters who have liked Pereira for ages and are disappointed by his lack of playing time. Fred, Pereira and McTominay are effectively in competition with each other for playing time.
I forgot the posters who love technical ability and don't care about tedious defensive stuff. Last year there was a poster who was forever saying Lewis Cook of Bournemouth was a much better player than McTominay. Scott is a fairly unadventurous, hard-working, team player, of the type that probably doesn't get much credit at any club. He's going to have to come up with the occasional goal/assist to keep the abuse to a minimum.
It's not just this forum. It is really difficult to find balanced comments that give a fair reflection of Scott's strengths and weaknesses, the standard of his performances relative to the other players on the pitch. The main Manchester Evening News United writer Samuel Luckhurst absolutely hates McTominay, keeps going on about him winning the lottery simply by making his debut. He gave Scott an average performance rating for the PSG game (clearly in desperate need of a trip to the opticians). Andy Mitten and the other fanzine editors are somewhere between indifferent and brutally critical towards Scott. Stephen Howson the YouTube United expert (Full Time Devils), doesn't rate McTominay at all, despite being wildly enthusiastic about the likes of TFM, Axel Tuanzebe, Ro-Shaun Williams (now of Shrewsbury) and until fairly recently, Callum Gribbin. From time to time, a United expert on Twitter will admit that Scott is a better player than they had originally thought (only a year after it was blindingly obvious he was worthy of a place in the United squad).
Having written all that, the career paths of footballers can take surprising turns, so it is still possible that the negative posters will end up being more accurate than those who are currently optimistic about Scott's development. My judgement is far from perfect when it comes to predicting how players will develop. As for my bias, I'm biased towards players that I think will improve due to their age and personality, while being biased against players who are on the decline and those whose egos seem problematic for a team sport. So I guess that makes me biased towards McTominay, because he is relatively young, so expecting him to improve seems reasonable right now, and because he comes across as having a decent personality for a team sport. There's a few United players that I almost certainly criticise for any errors or poor performances, while rarely giving them much credit for good performances; next time Ashley Young puts in a good performance I must remember to rush to his performance thread to write something positive.
This post is way too critical of other posters. In most instances they simply prefer other players; nothing wrong with getting fed up with Scott's safe passing because they'd rather see Andreas Pereira play more often, or hoping we buy Rodri from Atletico Madrid, instead of giving Scott a run of games to see how he performs, before spending big money. Respect to anyone who initially thought McTominay was a bit rubbish yet posted to say they had changed their mind after seeing him play well in a big game this season or last year. The few times I watched Scott play in the U23s, I thought he looked completely out of his depth, playing as a make-shift centre forward as they didn't have any strikers that season. There are posters who seem to have misjudged McTominay yet called McNair and Blackett right, so their overall judgement appears perfectly decent. When a new manager arrives it is hardly a great surprise if several of the squad soon find themselves out of favour; it happened to Borthwick-Jackson, McNair and TFM when Mourinho joined.
Apologies to anyone who read to the end of this.
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brilliant post.
In my humble opinion, if scott continues to play, he has a very high ceiling, because he is an intelligent and hardworking player. In 4 to 5 years I see him as pivotal to united as once Carrick was.
I was very disappointed by Ole after the psg game. He more than deserved a run in the team after that game. Instead Matic and Herrera walked back inn. I wonder if he will trust him against Barca. I think we are going to need his energy and enthusiasm in that game
Very good post.
Thought he did very well against Wolves. Deserves a run of starts now.
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