Is it time to burst “Rashy’s” bubble?

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Really didn't need another Rashford thread .

Why can people not use a thread already on a player ?
 

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He is a kid who refuses to pass and is very selfish. Needs to be put in his place.

He isn’t a world class striker. There’s nothing that shows he is going to be one. His instinct inside the the box is non existent. He can’t hold the ball up. The only thing he’s got going for him is that he’s not as bad as Lukaku.
Why does every player need to be ‘world class’ to be accepted by the RedCafe experts?

Rashford is a very exciting, promising forward. He’s the least of our worries right now.
 

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Clearly you misread most the posts in this thread.
The part where people made massive judgements about his character because he took some free kicks and had the audacity to shoot?

Where was the fecking stick about his arrogance when he stepped up to take that penalty against PSG?

You're talking absolute shit because you're upset he couldn't control a ball that was fired at him. Get a grip
 

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When a team is dominant like Barcelona the attacking players will look even better than they really are. When a team like Man United can't control games and create many chances, half chances or 1x1 situations the strikers will look worse than they really are.
 

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The part where people made massive judgements about his character because he took some free kicks and had the audacity to shoot?

Where was the fecking stick about his arrogance when he stepped up to take that penalty against PSG?

You're talking absolute shit because you're upset he couldn't control a ball that was fired at him
. Get a grip
No I'm not at all, if you're imagining things that aren't said then of course you'll be upset with this thread.
If a player is given the FK freedom to take it, he should for sure. I would question the managerial decision that allows it
 

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Getting criticised for shooting in a side that didn't hit the target once.... go figure. Because of his personality he will end up a better player than Martial and to be honest its not something I thought I would ever say
 

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He is alright. As I said in the "Rashford as our first choice striker" thread, he never will be good enough to lead the line at a top club. He is an attacking player, not a central striker. We need someone of RVP's ilk to lead the line. Someone with good hold up who can bring others into play and is a top notch goal scorer. Bringing a player like that will help out both Rashford and Martial.
 

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21 years old and up against one of Europe’s Elite teams.

Give your heads a wobble for feck sake. Anyone with half a brain can see that he’s got all the tools to be a top player when he matures. He’s a good 10 goals ahead of Kane at the same age, totally different player but a reminder that young players are young, inconsistent and usually get better.
 

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Really didn't need another Rashford thread .

Why can people not use a thread already on a player ?
Because this isn’t about whether he is good enough it is about how to get the best out of him. Should we indulge him and make him feel like the world is his oyster or tell him he’s not quite cut out to be a first team regular and get him to work harder on polishing the weaker parts of his game and create a more limited but more consistent player.
 

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He was shite tonight and does need to work on aspects of his game but, the pitchforks need to be put away. I'm not confident he'll ever be a 30 goal a season striker, but pretty sure he'll end up a very good first team player.

Luckily, in Ole, he has a very good mentor and has his full support.
 

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Because this isn’t about whether he is good enough it is about how to get the best out of him. Should we indulge him and make him feel like the world is his oyster or tell him he’s not quite cut out to be a first team regular and get him to work harder on polishing the weaker parts of his game and create a more limited but more consistent player.
Right now he's first choice cause there literally isnt anyone else out there. Also how do you know he isnt working on his game or someone isnt working with him. Or is someone is indulging him or not. He's 21 and as you said showed promise and some good stuff, just lacks consistency.
 

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It's sad that people have to make threads like this to deal with a defeat. It really is. This lynch mob mentality is old and embarrassing.
I get where you're coming from. I think this thread does raise a good question though, Rashford has incredible ability and it's a bit frustrating to see him do certain things he could "easily" erase from his game.
 

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21 years old and up against one of Europe’s Elite teams.

Give your heads a wobble for feck sake. Anyone with half a brain can see that he’s got all the tools to be a top player when he matures. He’s a good 10 goals ahead of Kane at the same age, totally different player but a reminder that young players are young, inconsistent and usually get better.
Yes because everyone goes down the same path as Kane. If that was the case England would have 100s of world class strikers.

Think you should use your wobble advice on yourself.

Kane is a natural striker who has the killer instinct inside the box. Rashford is anything but that.

Man City have Jesus yet they rely on Aguero. We need a world class striker as Rashford isn’t good enough yet to lead the line and Lukaku is average.
 

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Still young and learning, he's not ready to lead the line yet. We need to bring in an experienced foward to take the pressure off the younger guys. Guess that's what Sanchez and Lukaku were supposed to be..
 

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Yeah. He is looking a bit like Januzaj did. Cash in? :lol: Probably worth 100m now. So sad to say these things but.. hindsight is a bitch too
 

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He is still our best performing and most dangerous looking forward, but he has nevertheless been a bit off his best in the last few games. It would be a good idea to let him spend some time on the sidelines if only there was someone else making a strong case to replace him. Unfortunately, there isn't (and it's possibly a bit too soon to be throwing in players from the U18s).
 

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I get where you're coming from. I think this thread does raise a good question though, Rashford has incredible ability and it's a bit frustrating to see him do certain things he could "easily" erase from his game.
And that's my point. He's 21 and very much learning his trade as a leading CF. This is the first time in his career he's been asked to lead a line and it's very much a learning curve. People need to accept that young players who are learning will make mistakes, that's literally how you learn. He has great ability and will one day fulfil it but all this moaning and begging him to not even try stuff is how you get a player that doesn't fulfil his potential. You don't want a striker bearing down on goal worrying about missing rather than being sure he'll score, people need a reality check.

Also, he's being asked to do the job of our other more experienced strikers because they're too shit to do it. Blame them if you want to blame anyone.
 

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And that's my point. He's 21 and very much learning his trade as a leading CF. This is the first time in his career he's been asked to lead a line and it's very much a learning curve. People need to accept that young players who are learning will make mistakes, that's literally how you learn. He has great ability and will one day fulfil it but all this moaning and begging him to not even try stuff is how you get a player that doesn't fulfil his potential. You don't want a striker bearing down on goal worrying about missing rather than being sure he'll score, people need a reality check.
Personally all I want him is to stop taking FKs :angel:
 

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The part where people made massive judgements about his character because he took some free kicks and had the audacity to shoot?

Where was the fecking stick about his arrogance when he stepped up to take that penalty against PSG?

You're talking absolute shit because you're upset he couldn't control a ball that was fired at him. Get a grip
Theres no smoke without fire, theres a multitude of posters here who think the hype has gone to his head. Imo it clearly has.

No-one wants him to fail. We want him to be the ruthless, clinical no.10 who's gonna win us games. Not the ponderous, deer in the headlights who (might) do one good thing a game, that we have now. Indulging him, giving him the 10 shirt, not subbing him even though he's dreadful, talks of 300k etc. Its not being matched by performances, and no manager who's serious about competing for titles should be indulging him, fan favourite or not.
 

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He’s been watching Ronaldo with his speculative 25-30 yard shots and trying to hit that free kick which either ends up looking hideous or it’s an unsaveable, spectacular goal (only the ratio is much more weighted to the former)
 

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He's a good player, but won't reach the ceiling many are hoping he'll.
 

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You can only laugh :lol:

'Better footballing brain' = turned in to bambi on ice whenever he got within 10 metres of the goal.
I love Welbeck, he was a trier and a United lad but feck me that's an outrageous statement. He looked like a horse that had been thrown out of an aeroplane whenever he got in the area.
 

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I'd have certainly preferred it if Pogba took a couple today instead but hopefully he'll work on that part of his game or hand the duty over to someone else.
Hopefully too, he should try to emulate Beckham or Messi with a more conventional technique. Curling them has a higher percentage I feel.
 

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I agree. He plays like a mindless idiot at times. How many times has he rifled in bangers from 30 yards etc? Yet he’s having pot shots from all over the place.
Nothing wrong with a bit of confidence but I think he needs to reign it in a little and start doing the basic things right first.

His constant snatching at chances is infuriating as well and some of his misses are horrible and unacceptable, really. I get that he’s still a young man but he’s a professional footballer who supposedly wants 300k a week... I mean, play like it then.. and at the minute he’s not even work half of that.

He does need to concentrate on his game still and work hard at it because he’s supremely talented and Danny fecking Welbeck like some suggest. I completely agree with the op that the hype seems to have gone to his head. He performs much better when he has a point to prove and it’s noticeable.
 

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Hopefully too, he should try to emulate Beckham or Messi with a more conventional technique. Curling them has a higher percentage I feel.
Lashing the ball is a 50/50 for me, I don't feel it's worth it but it should be tried every now and again. I much prefer the way Pogba or Fred hits them but I think the thinking is there's not enough pace behind those to beat a keeper of that quality. Anyway, I hope he improves that part of his game, or drops it and focuses on something else instead.
 

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Stop giving him free kicks when he's fecking shite at them would be a decent idea.
 

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This is a risky thread to make, but I somewhat agree. Just think that there isn’t enough to his game at the moment to be on 300k a week and leading the line.

Pros:
-generally good striker of the ball, who has improved his variety of finishing under Ole
-rapid
- good movement in counterattacking systems
- works his socks off

Cons:
- dreadful passer
- weak in the air
- generally poor dribbler. Think more Bale than Messi. Lots of kick and run that defenders have caught on to.
- not great in tight spaces (biggest difference between him and Martial for me)
- spotty finisher, especially when having to react quickly

I just think that he either has to improve a good amount in other areas of his game, or become much more lethal in front of goal. If you watched Barcelona tonight part of why we dominated in the midfield was because their defense was set up to not be countered. Pique and co. played very deep and refused to give Rashford and Lukaku space to hit on a counter. As a result, he was left to taking pot shots and going out to the wing. It was a game that probably needed more Martial and less Rashford.
 

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Who put him on Free-Kick's anyway? Should put Fred on them when he's playing.
 

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Rashford is far from the finished article and we would really do well to sell Lukaku and bring in another better senior striker to let Rashford develop

hes going to have poor games but he has great potential... because of some of the dross we rely on him too much for a player his age
 
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