Is Roy Keane actually a good pundit

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I love the fact he's getting genuinely angry about all the small niggly things and minor mistakes throughout the game, whilst Neville and co laugh them off.. because Roy knows when you add up all them small things up, thats make the difference between getting a result and and not getting a result. Mans a born winner, has no time for complacency at all.. and tells it like it is. Love it
He was far more than just a hard tackler. He is actually very astute and doesn't miss much.
That winning mentality still burns bright.
You can see it in his eyes.
 

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Didn’t see anything wrong with what he said last night. Generally find him a bit basic in his punditry, but rarely do I find myself disagreeing with what he’s said.
 

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Hes not an amazing pundit but hes one of the best because he keeps it short simple and straight to the point. And he speaks the truth.

Doesnt really have hidden agendas,is not xenophobic,doesnt use stupid cliches.
Thats exactly how a pundit should be.
:lol: Ffs, that's all that this geezer is--a bag of hot wind and tired cliches.
 

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Hard-work only goes some way - If United had worked has hard as City result would have not changed IMO.
When you're inferior to your opposition in terms of quality, then work rate becomes a much larger determining factor in a positive result. If you cannot lessen the gap in quality, you have to lessen the gap in work ethic. It's that simple. If you don't then the odds reduce greatly.
 

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And people keep ignoring that this side is clearly running on fumes at this point. They can not sustain high pressing for a full match right now.
I'm not buying that. They just don't care, simple as that. Too many players with defeatist 'throw arms in the air nothing I can do' attitude. If they can't run for a full match and can't press nor sustain pressing for a full match I'd happily replace them for players that can. I just hope Ole and the board feel the same.
 

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I'm not buying that. They just don't care, simple as that. Too many players with defeatist 'throw arms in the air nothing I can do' attitude. If they can't run for a full match and can't press nor sustain pressing for a full match I'd happily replace them for players that can. I just hope Ole and the board feel the same.
Why does United seem to be the only major club that keeps signing players that simply do not care?
 

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:lol: Ffs, that's all that this geezer is--a bag of hot wind and tired cliches.
You couldn’t be more wrong. A former captain of United, he totally nailed what’s wrong with the club. People should listen - ‘hot wind and cliches’?? You’re miles off mate.
 

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Why does United seem to be the only major club that keeps signing players that simply do not care?
Why do you think? Maybe cos they think they’ve made it as soon as they arrive?

Compare Klopp’s Liverpool signings to United’s recent acquisitions - Roberts, Shaquiri, Van Dyke, Matip, Salah, Fabiano etc - they’re all hungry with the desire to prove themselves at the top level.
 

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You couldn’t be more wrong. A former captain of United, he totally nailed what’s wrong with the club. People should listen - ‘hot wind and cliches’?? You’re miles off mate.
Why should they listen? What exactly did he say that the average fan doesn't say?
 

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Why does United seem to be the only major club that keeps signing players that simply do not care?
The leadership in this club is rotten, top to bottom. We are a circus run by clueless clowns. It is all reflected in the players' mentality. It is fecking sad when you see City, Liverpool, Spurs players who are ready to die on the pitch, while ours can't be even bothered to run.
 

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Why does United seem to be the only major club that keeps signing players that simply do not care?
Because Ed wants to sign players who care more about their social media popularity. Ed is not wrong that players with a strong social media play can help the business side of the club but the downside to that is sometimes that’s all the player cares about.
 

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Roy Keane as Director of Football?
He knows the players are shite, he’d be insistent on a summer clear out.
The United board would absolutely love it. Andy Reid, Carlos Edwards, Daryl Murphy and David Healy as United’s main summer transfer targets.
 

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Didn’t see anything wrong with what he said last night. Generally find him a bit basic in his punditry, but rarely do I find myself disagreeing with what he’s said.
I didn't see anything wrong either. Re him being basic in his punditry, there's not really much more to be said. Players aren't good enough and they don't work hard enough. We had a tactically astute manager in Jose and it didn't work either, so we can try different tactics/formations but ultimately the ability and work rate still need to come into it.RE his punditry, esp when there are 4 guests, I don't think you can get too much into depth re formations etc. Shaw doesn't close down quick enough 1st goal, keeper doesn't help him. Fred mistake although others were found wanting as well leads to 2nd goal, keeper doesn't help him. It's an easy game at the end of the day, I think some make it more difficult than it is. I find his straight to he point analysis refreshing.
 

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Knowing all the potential negatives, I still think it’s a shame there’s no role at all for him at United. He’s got what we need in bucketloads. If people want some of what we’ve lost back, surely he’s the guy to instil it? It’s ecactly what SAF used him for for years - quality control and making sure everyone was on it all the time.

It’s a shame it can’t work. German clubs would never let a record winning captain drift away like that - at Bayern he’d be involved somewhere so as not to lose his impact.
As much as Id like to see him still involved with Utd,he doesnt have the people skills and is too volatile.
 

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Keano is very opinionated and sometimes you can agree with him and other times you think what's he on about BUT he always speaks with passion for the club and sometimes I feel like he thinks he's still the captain. I think Ole should bring him in for half time talks with the players I can guarantee they would get there backsides in gear.
 

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You couldn’t be more wrong. A former captain of United, he totally nailed what’s wrong with the club. People should listen - ‘hot wind and cliches’?? You’re miles off mate.
Well said mate.
Some people say that his comments are basic.
But it is the clever people who can get their points over with the fewest words.

I would have also thought that a former captain and someone who gave absolute and total commitment to our club deserves more respect from our supporters.
But it seems that some memories are very short.
 

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Keano is very opinionated and sometimes you can agree with him and other times you think what's he on about BUT he always speaks with passion for the club and sometimes I feel like he thinks he's still the captain. I think Ole should bring him in for half time talks with the players I can guarantee they would get there backsides in gear.
Nonsense. The modern player doesn't give a shit about any of that. You can't scare people into respecting you or your aims and objectives. Not when they're earning hundreds of thousands a week. You can't turn the clock back, much as we'd all like to.
 

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I get that his departure at the club wasnt on the best of terms. But nowt wrong with what he was saying. The minimum players should do is give 100 % He is holding these players to his standard where i bet even in training he would give his all. You can just see the man breathes a winning mentality. Not to mention the standards at the club have dropped massively.
 

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Nonsense. The modern player doesn't give a shit about any of that. You can't scare people into respecting you or your aims and objectives. Not when they're earning hundreds of thousands a week. You can't turn the clock back, much as we'd all like to.
Nothing to do with scaring, it's about respect and knowing what is asked of you. Go in to any "modern" employment and if you don't do what is required then your modern ass is getting sacked!
 

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Nothing to do with scaring, it's about respect and knowing what is asked of you. Go in to any "modern" employment and if you don't do what is required then your modern ass is getting sacked!
I'm curious. Do you think that has any relevance to any premier league dressing room?
 

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Keano is very opinionated and sometimes you can agree with him and other times you think what's he on about BUT he always speaks with passion for the club and sometimes I feel like he thinks he's still the captain.
There's a comment under one of those videos which sums that up -

'Keane still talks as if he's the captain of Manchester United. Whilst Ashley Young is the actual captain on the pitch.
How far they've fallen!'
 

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I'm curious if you was around when SAF was manager?
Don't be such a condescending twat. I'm around since Tommy Docherty was manager. What exactly has that got to do with what we're discussing? That's the actual point. Things have changed. Fergie wasn't the same manager at the end of his career as he was at the start. That was at the heart of his success, his ability to move with the times. My point is that what made Keane great is not enough to impress the Pogba's of this world anymore.
 

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He can pundit his manic/irate views all he likes. Good laughter/entertainment.
Long as no one continues with that "Keane for Manager" or "Keane for DoF" bollocks.
 

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In that video, Keane sprinted back to cover lampard, admittedly he got done by movement in the box. He wasn’t jogging though.

Nev fecked up but for all we know he had a shout to turn drogba inside as someone was coming in to cover and tackle.

Not excusing either for the goal but that tweet is nonsense, their effort is there to see.
 

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He is an entertaining one but of course he does not offer any tactical insight. He was a brilliant football because of his energy, mentality and underrated technique but his background was very basic tactically and he thrived in '90s and early '00s PL which was archaic in that area as well. It's a testament to his other qualities that we still managed to hold our own against Europe's best despite being clearly outsmarted by them from a positional and tactical point of view during that era. So of course to him, football is nothing more than individual duels on the pitch where the full back has to deal with the winger, center back with the striker and so on. Any failure is therefore an individual shortcoming if one goes by that logic. Doherty's statement is actually quite revealing, if not necessarily surprising.
Your clueless. His positional play and reading of game was brilliant. How else could he outplay Juventus midfield in 99, technically better players, but he outsmarted them easily.
 

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:lol:

Shambles of a tweet.

1) Twitter profile picture is that of a Pogba, first sign of a moron

2) Keane is sprinting back in literally the first few seconds of the clip

3) Neville got the ball but a ricochet put the ball straight into Drogba's path for him to lay it off.