He was definitely a twat!
Jose Mourinho - Was He Right?
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Go and look at the board, Woodward and the recruitment team. Recruitment had been fecking garbage for how many years? And apparantly it is Jose’s fault? Give me a fecking break.
He is right that our players are mediocre and lazy and our management useless. Shame he was such a twat who self sabotages.
Was right about;
Rashford not being a central striker,
Perrera not being good enough,
Mctom looking like a decent squad player
Fred not quite up to standard on his defensive work
Martial's workrate
Was wrong about
Hererra deemed a squad player and inferior to Matic
Believing Lukaku had the ability to be an all round centre forward.
Trying to make Pogba into a different type of player
Wanting Willian and Persic -would have left us with the same problem we have with Matic
Creating the worst preseason atmosphere around the club i'd ever seen.
Rashford not being a central striker,
Perrera not being good enough,
Mctom looking like a decent squad player
Fred not quite up to standard on his defensive work
Martial's workrate
Was wrong about
Hererra deemed a squad player and inferior to Matic
Believing Lukaku had the ability to be an all round centre forward.
Trying to make Pogba into a different type of player
Wanting Willian and Persic -would have left us with the same problem we have with Matic
Creating the worst preseason atmosphere around the club i'd ever seen.
Broken clock and all that. Doesn't mask his own failures though.
No midfield? His first choice midfield now are all players that where already at the club.,He walked into a squad within De Bruyne, Sterling, Silva, Fernandinho and Aguero. And gave him more money than anyone else to build on it.
Still had to rebuild and has done a great job with doing so. Whilst we have just bought more shite spending a lot of money whilst doing so
They had to buy an entire new defense. and convert De Bruyne, Silva and Fernandinho to completely new roles.
So does the recruitment team get credit for Matic and Lukaku or?
He was wrong about so many things and his behavior was a disgrace. Shame we can't appoint a proper manager
No doubt he’s done a very good job. It doesn’t mean United and City were starting on a level footing as was being intimated. He’s also had the benefit of not having to work for Ed Woodward.
Players that were previously managed by Jose Mourinho? Players that were already in the PL and proven?
So Mourinho gets credit for Matic and Lukaku but, he is not responsible for the club not buying FBs. So who was in charge of the recruitment when he was manager?
How has Fernandinho converted to a completely new role? I don’t doubt that Guardiola has done a better job than Mourinho did. That doesn’t change the fact that he had a much better squad to start with. All that’s changed there is that he’s been able to use two of the best attacking midfielders in the league in a slightly deeper role than they’d played before. Could he have done it with the players United had? Was Wayne Rooney going to run games like De Bruyne and Silva?
Sterling was called inconsistent. KDB and Silva have been transformed from wide players/number 10 into central midfielders. Then he brought Sane and Silva. Two players that was available for Mourinho to buy but no let's spend 75m on a striker with no touch and then waste on mkhi who flopped only to replaced by a bigger flop. But mourinho fans still says board should've allowed him to replace his duds like pep who had 90% success rate with signings.
Do you think Jose fecking Mourinho really wanted two converted wingers as his fullbacks. If he was able to replace them he fecking would have. In fact when he speaks about Pep he talks about the fact that he was able to replace his fullbacks.
He was right about some of the players, the problems with the "structure". But he was also not the man to get this club on the right path. Woodward is clearly the right man for that.
What the hell does that prove?
He had plenty of time to change them if he did not want them as the FBs.
Give Mourinho 50 million to buy a fullback and Young is not starting at fullback. I’m not arguing with people over this.
Modifying world class players into other positions that're not even hard on them anyway is x10 times easier than needing to buy an entire new team then thinking how and where to play them.
It's not even a comparison.
Interesting, He had 70 mil at the start of this season, went to buy a midfielder for 50 (who he said wasn't going to play until he got a CB) and spent the rest on a young RB (we didn't need) oh he had 4 transfer windows to buy a RB, he played Valencia/young there and said young will be starter this season as well.
Not sure where you pulled that rubbish from. As jose himself said young was going to play 50 games this season.
If anything that was a hint he wouldn’t get a class FB probably.
He threw a hissy fit because they failed to sign a CB. If they were blocking from signing a FB he would complain about that too.
The manager doesn’t do any of that. He outlines which players he want and then it’s up to Ed and co. The manager of United, and most other clubs, have zero say in transfer fees etc.Interesting, He had 70 mil at the start of this season, went to buy a midfielder for 50 (who he said wasn't going to play until he got a CB) and spent the rest on a young RB (we didn't need) oh he had 4 transfer windows to buy a RB, he played Valencia/young there and said young will be starter this season as well.
Not sure where you pulled that rubbish from. As jose himself said young was going to play 50 games this season.
Ok, he was also a player that showed enough form to earn the move at 20 years old in the first place. They’ve transformed into slightly different roles. They’re still attacking midfielders. What he’s done isn’t fundamentally change what they do on the pitch but build a side dominant enough to be able to play such attacking players. Could he have done it with Wayne Rooney and Memphis Depay?
He’s signed 13 first team players since he went to City. Four of them make their strongest side. 90% may be an exaggeration. That would require you to consider that Nolito and Bravo were successes before we even start on Mahrez, Danilo, Mandy or Gundogan.
I’m not arguing they haven’t recruited better than we have or Guardiola hasn’t done much better than Mourinho. He has. It’s disingenuous to pretend they had a comparable task.
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If that’s really your answer I’m done here.
You should be done here. There is no reason to still be defending Mourinho at this point. He failed here and should have been sacked sooner end of.
Young wasn't starter until Tony V called it a day. I dont rememberRB being a priority for him, the fact that he signed a young kid to develop shows that, he was more worried about signing a veteran CB. So no, he wasn't right, in fact he is partly responsible for our current tumescent football because he failed to improve the fullback positions, instead keep on messing with the CBs and fighting with Pogba.
Yes I know but Point being the manager identified a midfielder and a young RB (when we needed a RB who could go straight in first 11) who wasn't going to start this season thus Young was a starter at RB.
With Mou we would have ended up 8th ot 9th.
Ole improved us and made us compete with the big 3 London teams.
Ole improved us and made us compete with the big 3 London teams.
Maybe because he was told he could not have both? Maybe players had to be sold and we couldn’t sell them? One things for sure, a manager of his calibre knows the fullbacks are not good enough. If you tell Jose you can have a 50 million fullback he’d fecking take it.
For all we know he had identified one or more fullbacks as well. What we DO know is that he expected another two signings that never materialized.
Exactly. We had a budget and the budget wasn’t even used. Yet people are talking about why didn’t he sign more players. Maybe because our recruitment and board are fecking shit.
Yes a CB and that inter old boy (according to reports)
Why would you identify a young RB then a first team RB in the same window? Where's the logic in that?
Its good and all to back your preferred manager but clutching at straws at the moment.
The prick is why we're in this mess in the first place.
Jose was right about pretty much everything. supporters should have caused anarchy last august when the club didnt back him last summer and build on what was a great season last year, with this appaling squad.
He wanted players like Perisic if you believe the press. He got Fred and Dalot
What makes you think the other 4 names would have made any difference?