Champions League Semi Finals (30th April - 8th May)

Alex99

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Charlie Foley said:
I’m not being pedantic. It applies with any time on the clock. Without that goal Liverpool aren’t through at the end of normal time. With that goal they are. To say it doesn’t change things is factually wrong
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Aye, and this is where you're being pedantic. The point he's making is that 3-0 or 4-0 to Liverpool still saw them out if Barca pulled one back, which was also factually correct.
 

mu4c_20le

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Both Spurs and City fans will feel a reprieve... this has got to be the biggest bottle job in recent times
 

Greck

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Bobski said:
I wish, but the egos in the dressing aren't prepared to make the sacrifices needed to work like this. We would need almost an entire clear out, a purge and to stop looking to be a shit version of Real Madrid with big names controlling anything.

Knowing Utd we will probably bring in a petualant shite like Dybala and show we have learned nothing.

Henderson, Milner and Wijnaldum, Utd fans would have been furious if we had bought them, but they piss over our names in midfield because they actually work as a group.
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That's sarcasm. I think it's dinosaur logic that makes people buy the notion that fitness is the difference between our teams
 

Loublaze

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Only Ajax can stop them now and I hope they do it like its 1995 all over again
 

UweBein

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Marshal said:
I really think people in this thread doesn't understand that Barcelona is playing counter attack this year, and it's on purpose. I'm not happy with it as FC Barcelona supporter, I'd like to keep the the legacy of Cruyff, but first Luis Enrique and now Valverde, understood that the players Barcelona has are not good enough at this point time to win while dominating the opponent all the time. Because of that, Valverde decided to let the opponents feel that they are being superior, which means having 2-3 real occasions plus some very easy shots. He does that because he knows he has Piqué, Lenglet and Ter Stegen at a superlative level, which means that this superiority doesn't get reflected to the score.

Meanwhile he has Messi and other top quality players in the other side with much more space as they would have in possession of the ball. And with Messi they need half of the shots/space/errors or less than any other player in the world to score, so the tactic is a win-win and sometimes it feels like "luck" by the opponents but the fact is Barcelona didn't lose a single game since January. And most of the defeats this year were irrelevant matches.

FC Barcelona is still able to play with the ball and "dominate" the matches, with Arthur in the field there is an instant transformation, but in general the players are not able to do it with the speed and precision that Xavi-Iniesta had in the past, so with top-quality defensive systems Valverde decided that it's not what he wants anymore. I hope next year with De Jong and someone else this can be improved, but for now giving initiative to the opponent in certain moments of the match, is the most effective strategy when you have Messi/Dembelé/Suárez/Piqué/Ter Stegen in your team.

And I would like to add that people keeps using the defeat against Roma as an example of how weak Barcelona can be. Please stop with that, Roma beat Barcelona because they started with their minds out of the field since minute 1 and Valverde made a big tactic mistake enabling that mentality. He prepared a match to just spend time and do nothing, no counters, no attack nothing and players felt it, also player were overloaded because Valverde was using the same 11 in the league forever. Nobody, Roma or anyone else, can beat Barcelona by 3 goals the way Roma did (they didn't even need luck or spectacular performance but some player) if the players are connected to the game. I'm not saying Liverpool can't beat 3-0, but they will need to play far much better than Roma this year to get even close.
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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

TheNewEra

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Can't believe how bad Barca have been, they have struggled to complete a pass.

Pointless possession.
 

Cloud7

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Football really is one hell of a game. Sir Alex really summed it up best.
 

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Ref blew up 10 seconds early. Someone on the Cafe will probably start a thread on that to show Liverpool's insane luck.:lol:
 

el3mel

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Liverpool are winning CL this season. They'll defeat Ajax. It'll be a miracle if anything else happened.

Worst season of my life. Want to delete this from my memory.
 
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