Ashley Young - Captain of Manchester United

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Symbolically of course it may look bad but we have far bigger problems than this one.
 

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The Arsenal Sanchez would have been perfect for the United captaincy. :( Had so much hope for that guy.. Hopefully we're all jumping the gun assuming Young's gonna be a starter next season.
 

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One of the chuckle brothers will be the next captain once Young retires at age 43.
 

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Symbolically of course it may look bad but we have far bigger problems than this one.
On the pitch i really don’t think we do.

Young as a first choice fullback on either side is a symbol of our inability to function as a football team.

Awarding him the captaincy is a sign he will ‘be involved‘ next season & his performances don’t warrant inclusion.

He recently signed an extension so we’re not selling him/he isn’t leaving but how you reward his performances last season with the captaincy is beyond me.

I honestly feel the wingers at fullback issue is the biggest & longest term issue in our current squad.
 

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"Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is set to offer Paul Pogba a captaincy role at Manchester United as part of a plan to keep him at the club this summer.
Ashley Young, the 33-year-old right back is expected to become club captain next season after United decided against extending the contract of present skipper, Antonio Valencia.
But given that Young is not guaranteed to be playing every week next season — United want to sign a… (The article requires a subscription)


So basically our vice-captain will be our captain most of the time.
Yeah, it's just making our senior player as club captain but on field it will be someone else as he won't be a first choice next season.
 

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I think some of you guys underestimate how important it is in modern football to have someone in the dressing room with a good taste in Hip hop. Definitely worth keeping, who else would be their DJ?
 

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I think some of you guys underestimate how important it is in modern football to have someone in the dressing room with a good taste in Hip hop. Definitely worth keeping, who else would be their DJ?
DDG had been the best for that, but not captain material, unfortunately.
Only one with decent music taste in the squad :lol:
 

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I dont know if I can handle another season of Young being captain and starting games at full back.
There is zero reason for this madness.
It's inexcuseable if he's playing regularly next season. In fact, if he is then I'll be convinced that any cnut can be a football manager as it's too stupid for any single supporter to even make a case for it. Alex Telles and Meunier, two players much better than Young that we could sign but are currently linked to smaller clubs. There's an easy way out right there and it wouldn't cost a lot. There's so many options. Young is not good enough for the PL anymore.
 

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If Ole does this, that will remove all of the good will he's had to date , and will look just as much as an idiot as some people believe he is.

Unforgivable decision. I have to believe it's not true.
 

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If Ole does this, that will remove all of the good will he's had to date , and will look just as much as an idiot as some people believe he is.

Unforgivable decision. I have to believe it's not true.
What alternatives are there? From what i read, Young is a leader in the group and dressing room, so it makes sense.
Ole never said "My captain always plays".

You guys are way too dramatic.
 

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"Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is set to offer Paul Pogba a captaincy role at Manchester United as part of a plan to keep him at the club this summer.
Ashley Young, the 33-year-old right back is expected to become club captain next season after United decided against extending the contract of present skipper, Antonio Valencia.
But given that Young is not guaranteed to be playing every week next season — United want to sign a… (The article requires a subscription)


So basically our vice-captain will be our captain most of the time.
Both of them should be nowhere near the armband
 

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What alternatives are there? From what i read, Young is a leader in the group and dressing room, so it makes sense.
Ole never said "My captain always plays".

You guys are way too dramatic.
No wonder we've been shit, uninspired etc etc
He's not a leader, or we'd have seen that on the pitch already. What we see is him shouting at players after he's made a mistake. You expect our players to respect him with his kind of attitude? Sure they may joke around in the dressing room, but that isn't leadership.
 

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What alternatives are there? From what i read, Young is a leader in the group and dressing room, so it makes sense.
Ole never said "My captain always plays".

You guys are way too dramatic.
Leader of who? Jones, Smalling, and Shaw?
 

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Thanks.. Dont know how that helps?

Dont know how you were raised but I know my mom told me that if I couldnt say anything positive or constructive I shouldnt bother saying anything at all. I think me being off the Caf when Ashley Young captains Utd next season shouldnt really matter much as we will have enough people ready to spew poison over him, Ole and the club without me.

I have supported Utd since 84 and will keep on supporting Utd till I die but I really dont want to spend my time next season spewing profanities online every week, if you see that as supporting your club I guess you could do with a break too.
Well said.
 

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On the pitch i really don’t think we do.

Young as a first choice fullback on either side is a symbol of our inability to function as a football team.

Awarding him the captaincy is a sign he will ‘be involved‘ next season & his performances don’t warrant inclusion.

He recently signed an extension so we’re not selling him/he isn’t leaving but how you reward his performances last season with the captaincy is beyond me.

I honestly feel the wingers at fullback issue is the biggest & longest term issue in our current squad.
No, giving his captaincy doesn't mean he will play regularly. Obviously he will play as he has 1 year contract and will be back up. Valencia was club captain and he barely played last season. Rooney was also captain and he wasn't regular player under Jose. Van Gaal made Carrick was vice captain and he wasn't regular player.

It's just given to senior players and the other article clearly mentioned we are looking for RB and the on field captain will be someone else.
 

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We are in such state of desrepair that I would consider giving Scott McTominay the captaincy on the back of his performance against PSG. Of course, he is too young. But we need players with courage, not wimps like Ashley Young, JLingz, or Jones. It’s plain to see where the problems are, but apparently OLE doesn’t see it. The season hasn’t started but we are already in the dumps.
 

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I would rather have Moyes as Captain than Young. Surely this must be a joke or Ole has gone completely bonkers.
 

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We are in such state of desrepair that I would consider giving Scott McTominay the captaincy on the back of his performance against PSG. Of course, he is too young. But we need players with courage, not wimps like Ashley Young, JLingz, or Jones. It’s plain to see where the problems are, but apparently OLE doesn’t see it. The season hasn’t started but we are already in the dumps.
Too young? If we bought De Ligt, I’d want him made captain, as he is a genuine leader. Age isn’t a barrier, it’s experience and personal qualities.
I’d suggest you look at who’s in the dumps, it’s not Ole, it’s the toxic lot on the Caf and other forums who constantly moan about the club in here who are. The hindsight bunch who always know better and don’t see a project.
United are rebuilding and we’re being linked to players exactly like Ole said he was after, potential. So he can build them up into better players and improve the team.
If he fails, at least we’ll not be lumbered with players on huge contracts, that’ll impede the next managers plans. If he succeeds then absolutely fantastic. Guy bleeds United and is being supported by a very experienced team.
 

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Doesn't Young have any decent self-awareness left in him?

I believe fans would respect him more if he refuses to be the Captain.
 
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Too young? If we bought De Ligt, I’d want him made captain, as he is a genuine leader. Age isn’t a barrier, it’s experience and personal qualities.
I’d suggest you look at who’s in the dumps, it’s not Ole, it’s the toxic lot on the Caf and other forums who constantly moan about the club in here who are. The hindsight bunch who always know better and don’t see a project.
United are rebuilding and we’re being linked to players exactly like Ole said he was after, potential. So he can build them up into better players and improve the team.
If he fails, at least we’ll not be lumbered with players on huge contracts, that’ll impede the next managers plans. If he succeeds then absolutely fantastic. Guy bleeds United and is being supported by a very experienced team.
There’s no improvement that he can get out of Young, JLingz, or Jones. These are not young prospects that are somehow going to become better and improve the team. Instead of making young captain, he should be cleared out. Give his spot to one of those prospects you say are coming in, or give someone from our youth squad a crack at it. Fullback position is such an important position in the modern football game (for example, 2 Liverpool fullbacks had 20+ assists between both) that we should not even contemplate using Ashley Young for even 1 more game. And yet he is being made captain?
 

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It's inexcuseable if he's playing regularly next season. In fact, if he is then I'll be convinced that any cnut can be a football manager as it's too stupid for any single supporter to even make a case for it. Alex Telles and Meunier, two players much better than Young that we could sign but are currently linked to smaller clubs. There's an easy way out right there and it wouldn't cost a lot. There's so many options. Young is not good enough for the PL anymore.

If there is something that can make me lose faith in Ole this would be it, I guess time will tell.
 

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If there is something that can make me lose faith in Ole this would be it, I guess time will tell.
I feel like I've heard similar things when Jose announced last summer that Young will start 50 games the next season.

I think there's a very good chance he'll again be the starter for the majority of next season as well. The club just doesn't know how to decisively get rid of these players because "he has passion", "he's been a loyal servant", or "he's a nice guy". Pay me six figures every week, way more than any other club would and I'll be the most "loyal" player in the universe.
 

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Perhaps this is the beginning of his exit. Only one more season to endure. Hopefully.
 

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Perhaps this is the beginning of his exit. Only one more season to endure. Hopefully.
Are you referring to Young or OLE? Because depending on how many games Young gets, your statement would fit either one.
 

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If this clown is captain next year , it shows all that is wrong with this club. Don’t do it Ole, hopefully Young is in contract negotiations with another club and this is just games as all players do.
 

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Don't think he will play regularly. As some have said, it will be like Valencia's last season, with maybe just a bit more appearances.

I can tolerate him at the club if he only starts in the cups. Still says a lot about the club that he has lasted this long and has been given the armband though.
 

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We don't have anyone in the squad who is a real captain. Giving it to Young makes sense if we are hoping one of the new guys we bring in will step into that role, giving him a year to prove it and then officially take on the role the following season.
 

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Sorry but don't agree with Young being captain.
Someone who doesn't seem to take ownership of his own mistakes and then turns around and yells at his team mates? Not captain material in my books.

Don't think Pogba should be either.. Perhaps Smalling? Shaw?
 

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I'd rather give it to POTY Shaw than see Young again with the armband. Tbh, it means feck all to me anymore, I just don't want it used as an excuse to play Young
 

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Captain now'a'days means less.
Every line in a formation should have a leader in it. The captain is merely a figurine and a central person for the collective.
Doesn't matter if Young can't make a cross or slides all over the pitch. If his mentality is right, and he sets an example off-the-pitch for the youth, then im fine with it.
Roy Keane would run and shout at players, armband or no armband, so this is just meh news.