Pogba could be used as the an AM alongside Maddison, or as the second midfielder, the link between the DM and the AM.
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The word was that Ole sees Pogba as a DLP!
Have I missed a pun there?
Two #10s when we are already struggling for width?
Yep that is called CM, which Maddison is not.
He good is he, and good can he be?Nah you don't want him, he should probably should just stay at Leicester.
Probably not a great partner for Pogba, but maybe a decent replacement? Idk, I definitely liked what I saw of him last season except for the fact that he seemed to get subbed after 60-70 minutes a lot.
Thats strange, especially for a young player.
I just really don’t see the big deal with him. Maybe I’m massively under-rating him but I just don’t see him at a club trying to make big things (like us) at the moment.
Pogba would be the CM, not Maddison. As for width, we'd still have the wingers and the fullbacks. When has midfielders ever been responsible for width?
I hope this rumor gets put to bed soon.
I'm seeing a lot of posts saying 'how will he play with Pogba?'. Do people still think Pogba will be here next season? I don't see it at all.
Of course he'll be here, we hold all the power in this one, plus I doubt Madrid or Juve could come close to affording him.
Most likely we'll reach an agreement with Pogba and Raiola where we'll sell him if they offer a certain amount of money for him next summer, and he'll sign a contract extension that sees him get increased wages for around a year (which will also mean a decent wedge at his next club)
How many 10's do city play? Certainly more than 2. If you've got good, quick wide forwards then it should work.
I don't see it. He wants a move and he's not only looking at Real.
Yeah, definitely stamina issues because it didn't seem to matter much if they were winning or losing. Pretty big red flag for such a massive investment for sure.
He downed tools again at the end of the season IMO. If we block a move this summer I think we'll be seeing more of that.
How did he down tools ?
Naive.
Real Madrid will be his next destination next summer, unless there's a major feckup at the club and they sack Zidane and the new manager is uninterested in Pogba.
So what, make him suffer, if he does this his reputation will only take even more of a hit.
No matter how much money we get we aren't replacing him with anything better, so we need to keep him, the same goes for Martial, and probably Lukaku.
I'm in no way saying he is a Lukaku, but there are many players with abilities similar to Maddison. The only reason he would cost that much is that he is English and plays for an English club with enough money. Half of his key passes (assuming passes leading to a shot?) are from set pieces. Statistically, Maddison seems to be the better passer, and he is better physically compared to Felix. But Felix is still not physically in his prime, he is two-footed, his technique is silky smooth, he seems to make the right runs and decisions and got a great understanding of the game, he is not afraid to go into duels...
I can understand people arguing that buying Maddison would not be so riskful as going after Felix, but I think Maddison is not likely to become any better. Felix, on the other hand, got the fundamentals in place of becoming a world class player.
Ole wants Pogba further back, as a deep lying playmaker.
Dropped his work rate again same as he did under mourinho.
Pogba likes to risk a bit with the ball and in that position you cannot afford to lose the ball.
Moreover time will tell us that you cannot plan long term with Raiola s clients
Nothing that indicate this and/or your original claim of dropping his work rate under Mourinho.
The entire team more or less collapsed in the final two months of the season, never in a million years down to one or two players. Don't be absurd
The problem with that statement is it's impossible to quantify. He looks good in Portugal but it's a weaker league where a lot of goals are scored. He certainly looks quality but just how much quality isnt certain despite the fact he'd cost a massive fee. I'm not against signing him but he's a big financial risk.
Two footed, silky smooth touch on the ball, movement and vision. Not elements of the game that suddenly disappear when moving clubs and changing leagues. Compared to Maddison for the rumoured price, I agree that the financial risk attached would be bigger.
Personally, I think most attacking players would struggle in this team. Even Messi and Ronaldo. So better to buy the best talents available hoping that we in the near future will have a manager and coaching staff that can teach the team to play high press, intensive and possession-based football.
I'm not suggesting it was one or two players. It was far worse than that. The end of the season was a disgrace and there weren't many who were beyond criticism.
We usually talk to 2-3 targets, he could be plan B for Bruno fernandes.
He's 100% a Ferguson signing. Him and Daniel James are. We'd be lapping this up under Fergie but with the major facelift our squad needs and the underserved sneering Solskjær is getting we're not excited about this potential transfer.
If Maddison has another season like the one he's just had he'll cost a hell of a lot more than he currently does and they'll be a hell of a lot more teams interested.
Well, the plan B is costlier than plan A then.
I doubt it. Pretty much the same.
Maddison yes, James no, unless we're talking about Fergie punts on players like David Bellion, Obertan, Diouf and Powell
This is true.
Like people saying Scott McTominay is simply a workhorse and only here because he's a youth player.
Scott's technique is every bit as good as Fred, Perreira or Herrera.
Does anyone actually believe Leicester will sell him...and for anything less than £70m.
I see De Ligt signing for us as more plausible than Maddison. This is why I can’t even get on board with this rumor.
I see De Ligt signing for us as more plausible than Maddison. This is why I can’t even get on board with this rumor.
This will not happen. He is not good enough for Utd. The chance for him going to Man City to replace Silva next summer is probably higher than him joining Man Utd this summer.
I like Mctominays contribution but he's not as good technically as those two, particularly Herrera who's very solid in possession.
Even if you ignore Maddison's key passes from set-pieces, he still has twice more than Felix. We might have to overpay for Maddison because he is English, but I've always felt that the hype around Felix stems from his age, style and flavour of the season status. Until he was first linked to us, I had never heard of him. That he was first linked as the 'new Ronaldo' when he is actually nothing like him, with the hype quickly escalating from there makes me firmly believe that many are just jumping on the bandwagon.
Maddison's technique is really good too, he's got some skills that Felix probably does not have, he is only 22 and there's huge room for improvement too. I would argue that he is currently the better player and £60m for him would be a sensible price relative to the quoted price for Felix. I cannot quantify the bolded part statistically, so fairplay.
Not really, but that is an argument for another thread.
There are other factors. The Premier League money and increasing backing of rich owners means players clubs don't want to sell CAN be bought, but for utterly ridiculous fees, whereas before they could be picked off for less.
Looking at Man City - Bayern and the Sane situation, the latter have essentially said the valuation is insane and they won't pay it. This is an attempt to re-balance the market by refusing to match the market as it currently exists at the top-end, essentially saying this isn't value. Seeing the performances of Coutinho and Dembele, it makes sense for big clubs to refuse to meet these valuations - there's plenty of value out there if it's properly scouted for.
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