Juan Mata | Official: Signs two-year contract with option of a third

[Neil_Buchanan]

I think no news is bad news on this front, I can see him staying unfortunately.

 

[Escobar]

Just let him move on ffs

 

[NinjaZombie]

What Mata has done last season that makes you think a dud Gomes will do worse than him?

3 goals & 2 assists in the league, 1 goal each in FA & CL. That’s such a dud output from attacking mid got paid for 140k p/w.

Giggs 37/38 years old did much better. That’s sort of experienced we need not Mata’s level.

I just think we need to be careful who we are replacing our current players with less we end up with a worse squad than we had last season.

 

[Member 113277]

No thanks.

They'll only continuing the shit culture and lazy ethic to the new players.

Id rather a clean start. You can argue keeping old guards like vidic rio giggs, but mata and young to show the kids how it's done? No thanks

Neither Mata nor Young are lazy and have a bad attitude - their skills are certainly not what we need, but both have never given less than 100% for the club and are positive forces.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

I just think we need to be careful who we are replacing our current players with less we end up with a worse squad than we had last season.

Can’t be worse than giving Mata a new upgrade contract that already in 140k p/w. That’s a steal living.

Either way we need to move on. We can’t keep stay with the same players that aren’t producing & already old.

 

[doomy20]

We need to stop giving out contract extensions for fun and we need to stop that "Good enough for a squad player, good enough as a second option, will serve well in a few games" attitude. I´d rather play with 10 new faces than seeing Mata, Young and Co. again as soon as we have injuries or even in our starting 11.

 

[Sky1981]

Neither Mata nor Young are lazy and have a bad attitude - their skills are certainly not what we need, but both have never given less than 100% for the club and are positive forces.

Less than 100 percent? How bout train to cross for a change. Have we fallen so far that anyone with 2 legs and runs abit is giving their all?

 

[Member 113277]

Less than 100 percent? How bout train to cross for a change. Have we fallen so far that anyone with 2 legs and runs abit is giving their all?

I don't know if you watch Utd regularly? We have a number of players who are talented, but regularly give less than 100% - I would be happy to see some of these let go.

Then there is Alexis, he has tried hard, achieved little and I would let him go, if possible.

Young and Mata try hard, are not part of the future, but potentially have a role in an orderly transfer of the torch - it's not about performance on the field (I wouldn't argue that), but more about dressing room influence in changing times.

Still, it's a free country and we don;t have to agree with each other - I think we would both agree that the team performance for much of last season was completely unacceptable and needs immediate action.

 

[Josep Dowling]

Neither Mata nor Young are lazy and have a bad attitude - their skills are certainly not what we need, but both have never given less than 100% for the club and are positive forces.

Ideal, lets give them both 4 year extensions then.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

I don't know if you watch Utd regularly? We have a number of players who are talented, but regularly give less than 100% - I would be happy to see some of these let go.

Then there is Alexis, he has tried hard, achieved little and I would let him go, if possible.

Young and Mata try hard, are not part of the future, but potentially have a role in an orderly transfer of the torch - it's not about performance on the field (I wouldn't argue that), but more about dressing room influence in changing times.

Still, it's a free country and we don;t have to agree with each other - I think we would both agree that the team performance for much of last season was completely unacceptable and needs immediate action.

Giggs right now probably can do better than 3 goals & 2 assists per season in the league. He won’t ask anything higher than 80k p/w. The role should only be given to the right players not just players who are old. They have no influence in dressing room to our young players like Rashford & Martial, they are just overpaid players who needs to be moved on.

 

[Member 113277]

Ideal, lets give them both 4 year extensions then.

Do you expect the change of team to take 4 years? (note, in an earlier post I said both players would be gone by summer 2020).

I can guarantee that there will be serious consquences, if it does - big sponsorship deals will shrink, reducing transfer funds, players will be even more relecutant to join. Once the transition is complete, it's going to take a few seasons to build momentum and tune the machine - we can't b*gger about for 4 years just to change the team.

 

[red4ever 79]

When does the contract run out? Thought it was May 31st?

 

[Roboc7]

I don't know if you watch Utd regularly? We have a number of players who are talented, but regularly give less than 100% - I would be happy to see some of these let go.

Then there is Alexis, he has tried hard, achieved little and I would let him go, if possible.

Young and Mata try hard, are not part of the future, but potentially have a role in an orderly transfer of the torch - it's not about performance on the field (I wouldn't argue that), but more about dressing room influence in changing times.

Still, it's a free country and we don;t have to agree with each other - I think we would both agree that the team performance for much of last season was completely unacceptable and needs immediate action.

Are likes of Mata and Young really that influential?. Do they the standards for Utd players?. I get the idea but what torch are they passing, these aren’t players that have been integral to success.

Personally think we need to start sending a message that mediocrity won’t be rewarded. Mata should go, not because he is the worst but because he’s not good enough and his contract is up. Time to move on, when there is a chance to offload players we need to take it because some of these players we don’t want are going to be here for years.

 

[Member 113277]

Giggs right now probably can do better than 3 goals & 2 assists per season in the league. He won’t ask anything higher than 80k p/w. The role should only be given to the right players not just players who are old. They have no influence in dressing room to our young players like Rashford & Martial, they are just overpaid players who needs to be moved on.

Giggs isn't available, he has a job. Just bear in mind that you can assemble a number of Galacticos, but it will not necessarily result in a team or winning anything.

 

[bosnian_red]

I just think we need to be careful who we are replacing our current players with less we end up with a worse squad than we had last season.

I think we need to forget about the names and just look at strictly what they showed. I would expect any half decent young player to be able to at least replicate Mata's season, because he did pretty much nothing. Angel Gomes is one of our biggest prospects, so I'd expect him to come in and easily be able to at least replicate it, but more likely do better than what Mata did last season. Likewise replacing Sanchez with Tahith Chong. It's two players who are way past it, who earn a combined £500k a week, who did a combined nothing last season. We can replace them both with 2 promising 18 year olds, earning basically nothing, while giving them a chance in the team and so they get exposure and might develop and make the step up. At worst, they arent going to do worse than the useless shite we saw from Sanchez and Mata last year.

The same can be said for replacing a few of our centerbacks for Tuanzebe, or giving Laird the few chances that Darmian got. It saves loads of money to spend in other areas, gives promising youngsters the chances they need, gets rid of older, underperforming and overpaid players with basically no loss in performance because theyve all just been bad. We're not talking about any of them being starters, it's being squad players for all of them, which is fine for their development.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Giggs isn't available, he has a job. Just bear in mind that you can assemble a number of Galacticos, but it will not necessarily result in a team or winning anything.

I shout current Giggs name to show you how bad Mata & Young as an option in this role, and you struggle to understand. Get the right player for the role, don’t just pick the players for the role just because they are old.

 

[tomaldinho1]

As much as Juan 'hugs' Mata is a nice guy, we need to start acting like a business when it comes to contract renewals.

The guy has an offer and is clearly shopping to see what else is around. If he were a vital player and we were afraid of losing him, I'd get the patient approach and the idea that we can potentially improve our offer, but this is a squad player on inflated wages who is 31. Withdraw the offer and set some kind of precedent for the under performing overpaid members of our squad.

 

[Based Adnan]

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STILL trying to renew. Joke how this club run.

 

[FootyGirl88]

I thought Ole was gonna be ruthless, why do we need to extend his deal?

 

[Bastian]

I'd rather he just found a new club. He doesn't really fit, not dynamic enough to justify playing him as a #10, given the lack of dynamism in midfield and the lack of technical ability all over the team.

Worst case scenario, we are offering him only a one year deal. But really, if we can't convince any decent players to join us, we should be promoting youth.

 

[robinrooney]

Need to part ways. Not good enough for a club with any ambition. Ask yourself, would any other quarterfinal CL team buy him?

The answer is an emphatic NO

Let him go FFS

 

[Roboc7]

This is what will happen as we miss out on targets, Mata will get a new contract and players like Sanchez will be given another chance and the outcome will be no different.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

You just know this will be our big announcement of the window. The old 'like a new signing' renewal.

 

[passing-wind]

This is the problem with someone like Solskjaer in charge. He's not going to bring the changes into effect, he's giving most of the mediocre individual longer stays.

Too much sentimentality

 

[dove]

I thought Ole was gonna be ruthless, why do we need to extend his deal?

He was never going to be ruthless. Spoke what fans wanted to hear while always doing complete opposite. The players who will leave are the ones who want to leave, we won't sell any player who wants to stay.

 

[Red_toad]

This is the problem with someone like Solskjaer in charge. He's not going to bring the changes into effect, he's giving most of the mediocre individual longer stays.

Too much sentimentality

Solskjaer isn’t in charge, Ed is the man who decides budgets etc. If Ole has only been told he can spend x amount, then he’s got to prioritise targets. As none of us know what funds Ole has, no one can state his motives to retain certain individuals.
Personally I’d rather Mata’s Minutes went to Gomes. But Mata is a good finisher and a very experienced player, so I can see there’d be a case to retain him.

 

[Based Adnan]

I'm assuming we're signing a proper right winger because we'd be mental not to

Mata's minutes should go to Gomes and the RW signing. He was awful last season in the majority of games and is as ineffective as they come. Needs moving on otherwise we're at risk of losing talents like Gomes and Chong.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

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STILL trying to renew. Joke how this club run.

If the definition of rebuild from the club is renewing a contract for attacking mid player who only scored 3 league goals & 2 assists then both the board and Ole himself are totally joke. New player plus Gomes should be Mata’s replacement, it’s a no brainer decision when you review what Mata has done last season.

 

[Kag]

I can’t say I’m too fussed as to whether or not Mata leaves but let’s not be unreasonable about the logic in retaining him. If he goes then we’re left with first team attackers of Martial, Rashford, Lingard and maybe Lukaku (and even that’s far from certain).

Sanchez is off. Lukaku might be, too. If Mata leaves then we’ve lost three first team options, with only Greenwood good enough to get games from the academy. I want a fair bit of change in our squad, but keeping Mata as a (rarely injured) squad player is hardly a terrible option.

Wise up, some of you.

 

[Adisa]

Failed club.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

I can’t say I’m too fussed as to whether or not Mata leaves but let’s not be unreasonable about the logic in retaining him. If he goes then we’re left with first team attackers of Martial, Rashford, Lingard and maybe Lukaku (and even that’s far from certain).

Sanchez is off. Lukaku might be, too. If Mata leaves then we’ve lost three first team options, with only Greenwood good enough to get games from the academy. I want a fair bit of change in our squad, but keeping Mata as a (rarely injured) squad player is hardly a terrible option.

Wise up, some of you.

3 goals 2 assists in the league, 1 goal each in CL & FA cup. Gomes & Greenwood can’t be any worse than that ’’output’’ to be squad option. His contract is expired, if we are serious to move on then we shouldn’t extend it. No brainer.

 

[Kag]

3 goals 2 assists in the league, 1 goal each in CL & FA cup. Gomes & Greenwood can’t be any worse than that being squad option. His contract is expired, if we are serious to move on then we shouldn’t extend it. No brainer.

Didn’t you bother to read the rest?

If Mata leaves, as well as Sanchez and Lukaku, then we’re left with three first team attackers. Bearing in mind we could really do with two new attackers as it is, we can’t afford to lose numbers in that area.

 

[Pexbo]

Is it really a big deal? He’s too good to leave for free but obviously not good enough for star wages or promises of number of games.

I think we’d be daft to let him go for free without making a sensible offer and the fact we are still negotiating suggests that we aren’t just throwing money and promises at him.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Didn’t you bother to read the rest?

If Mata leaves, as well as Sanchez and Lukaku, then we’re left with three first team attackers. Bearing in mind we could really do with two new attackers as it is, we can’t afford to lose numbers in that area.

I read them and that’s why we are going to sign a new player to be first team choice to replace him.

Are you telling me we won’t signed a replacement for him and that’s why we decide to extend his contract, come on clearly not because you think we keep him to be squad player. And the point is he was terrible last season that playing Gomes & Greenwood won’t make it worse.

 

[Sandikan]

Is it really a big deal? He’s too good to leave for free but obviously not good enough for star wages or promises of number of games.

I think we’d be daft to let him go for free without making a sensible offer and the fact we are still negotiating suggests that we aren’t just throwing money and promises at him.

Yep, a £37m outlay is still a fair bit of wad, and he's "Probably" still better than all these much heralded youngsters like Chong who everyone raves about but from the few mins they've had look well off the pace.

But...it's more the idea that if we're not clearing these sort of squad players out, we won't be doing as many buys as we should do.
In an ideal world the Rashford, Lingard types should be squad players, and top quality should be coming in as starters.

 

[Kag]

I read them and that’s why we are going to sign a new player to be first team choice. Are you telling me we won’t signed a replacement for him and that’s why we decide to extend his contract, come on clearly not because you think we keep him to be squad player. And the point is he was terrible last season that playing Gomes & Greenwood won’t make it worse.

One player is probably not enough. Relying on Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Gomes, Greenwood and one new player would concern me greatly. Mata, in spite of a poor season, is worth keeping around for that reason.

If we were to sign two brilliant attacking players then I’d be less worried. But I don’t anticipate that happening. So departing players is going to have to be more gradual.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Is it really a big deal? He’s too good to leave for free but obviously not good enough for star wages or promises of number of games.

I think we’d be daft to let him go for free without making a sensible offer and the fact we are still negotiating suggests that we aren’t just throwing money and promises at him.

3 goals 2 assists in the league, 1 goal each in CL & FA cup! We are keeping that terrible ‘’output’’ to prevent our young players such as Greenwood & Gomes from playing. Of course it’s big deal, I just don’t get how some people think it’s ok to keep him if we want to do rebuild.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

One player is probably not enough. Relying on Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Gomes, Greenwood and one new player would concern me greatly. Mata, in spite of a poor season, is worth keeping around for that reason.

If we were to sign two brilliant attacking players then I’d be less worried. But I don’t anticipate that happening. So departing players is going to have to be more gradual.

First, you are just making assumption that we only sign 1 player.

Second, You got to be joking. The rebuild process will take more than one summer window, not enough or is enough that’s not exactly our aim here what we want is move on & upgrade. We have the chance to get rid players that won’t be part of the plan so we should take it wisely.

Signing a top player to replace Mata, promote Greenwood & Gomes is already considered to be upgrade in our squad. Nothing worse than keeping player with 3 goals 2 assists & 2 goals in cup comp. Any top players would have produce 5 times of his output minimum. What can hurt us getting rid attacking mid player who can only score 3 league goals & 2 assists?

 

[VP89]

I thought Ole was gonna be ruthless, why do we need to extend his deal?

What made you think that after Jones and Young signed new deals? He even said he doesn't want to make wholesale changes this summer.

 

[Sing you a song]

I think no news is bad news on this front, I can see him staying unfortunately.

Let’s hope he does we are going to find it difficult enough to replace Herrera in this window without having to find another CM just to stand still in terms of options