Juan Mata | Official: Signs two-year contract with option of a third

[BlahRules]

Bragging about youth then offer Mata a contract, ridiculous.

Angel Gomes should be given the opportunity.

We should put some faith on our youth. I am not suggesting gomes or others should be a first team player but what is the point in having youth if we’re going to waste time on players that are clearly past it and not going to have gain financial or on the pitch.

End of the day giving minutes to the youth would be beneficial both ways, if they’re not good enough then we can sell for a good fortune.

 

[Castia]

He’ll sign simply because he won’t get the same salary anywhere else.

Having said that he would look a different player playing in the #10 role for a side that actually moves the ball around.

 

[Patrick08]

So we won't trust Andreas. What the point of keeping him. Just sell him and make money, but we won't do that either and extend our budget.

 

[Patrick08]

Losing the best players in Herrera and de gea but keeping deadweights.

 

[SuperiorXI]

Don't mind keeping Mata as long as he's on pittance. Makes no sense giving him a new deal on same or improved wages.

 

[sullydnl]

Can anyone explain the thought process in offering him a deal? I just dont get it, simply not good enough.

We should just be cutting our losses with players like him, young, darmian, jones, rojo, bailly, sanchez and lukaku.

We already have the likes of De Gea, Valencia, Darmian, Rojo, Bailly, Herrera, Sanchez, Pogba, Lukaku and whoever else as outgoings or potential outgoings. We also haven't replaced Fellaini since he was sold. We have limited time and resources with which to replace these players before the start of the season, which is why their sales will be spread out over several transfer windows. Deciding to voluntarily add another departure to the list for this summer may not be ideal when there's already enough potential turnover in front of us as is.

Beyond that, if we're targeting young and less experienced players (as seems to be the case) then keeping an experienced pro like Mata may also benefit the squad. Character in the dressing room is important and one of the many problems we've had since SAF left. Mata is one of the increasingly few players in our squad who isn't just top class in terms of professionalism but has actually played and won in the biggest games. Jettisoning that experience (for no immediate benefit) to yet more entirely embrace youth would hardly make sense.

Experience and character isn't a reason to keep a player but it is a reason to place them lower on the list of players who need to be upgraded. And if a player is low enough on that list then extending their contract to keep them around while you focus on other problems can absolutely make sense.

 

[Sandikan]

Don't mind keeping Mata as long as he's on pittance. Makes no sense giving him a new deal on same or improved wages.

Will only be a mere 100k a week, so don't worry.

 

[SuperiorXI]

Will only be a mere 100k a week, so don't worry.

That's obviously too much. Sure bout that?

 

[Sandikan]

That's obviously too much. Sure bout that?

Ok, i'll ask him to take a bit less.

 

[humdinger]

He should be let go. He’s really not suitable for what is supposedly the style of football we want to play. Plus, we aren’t short of numbers and if he stays he won’t just be a ceremonial mascot - he’ll have to play. Gomes, Chong and James should be getting his sub appearances / occasional starts.

Only way his staying makes sense to me is if Sanchez is definitely off plus another - maybe there’s truth to the Lukaku rumours after all. If they both go then there’s probably space for Mata in the squad.

 

[L1nk]

Im 50/50 with this. Now Mata is a great person, however i think he's pretty much useless to us as a football player by this point. But, if the supposed transfer strategy of the club this summer is for younger vastly inexperienced players, it makes sense, in my opinion, to try and keep Mata, an experienced head and positive influence in the dressing room, for at least another season.

 

[sweetmgd]

Keeping such amounts of "good example and experienced player" like Young, Mata and Jones in the team, but at the end they produced almost nothing but shit performance. We need quality, not quantity.

 

[ArjenIsM3]

0 assist under Ole's games, one of our good passers?

Good example for youngsters? How about Pogba, Martial and Rashford? Do you think they will listen to him?

Right because a pass has to be an assist to be good.

Rashford already works hard enough. Think Martial is a bit of a lost cause. Pogba is on again off again. But it's not like everyone should listen to him. That has nothing to do with him being a good example to youngsters. Don't really know what you're getting at.

 

[UncleBob]

Feck this club.

 

[el3mel]

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[UncleBob]

Not sure why so many react so badly to Mata potentially signing an extension.

it's not all that complicated, if we lose Mata it'll force us to bring another player in, it'll be a long season with plenty of matches and we need players. It's not like it means that he'll be the first player on the team sheet, but a good player to have available as a backup. The likes of Gomes etc will still get plenty of chances to show that they are good enough

 

[sweetmgd]

Right because a pass has to be an assist to be good.

Rashford already works hard enough. Think Martial is a bit of a lost cause. Pogba is on again off again. But it's not like everyone should listen to him. That has nothing to do with him being a good example to youngsters. Don't really know what you're getting at.

Yeah really an excuse, 29 games under Ole takes charge with no assist is called one of our good passers, no wonder why we are that shit and almost 10+ players are waiting to clear for a big club like us.

My point is please don't over-estimated his influence in dressing room. The dressing room's problem haven't been fixed for the last few years even with Mata.

Look at Pep at Man City, he released J. Hart, Zapaleta, Yaya Toure, Kolarov, only keeping Aguero, D. Silva and Kompany as their "experienced players", because they can still contribute to the team. But when it is time, Pep will let them go, look at Kompany. Quality always takes place first, not like us, keeping a lot of old and under performance players, and we find excuse to call them "experienced and good example". Experience to lead us not to get in Champion League for the third times in 6 years after SAF retired?

 

[fergiesarmy1]

Not sure why so many react so badly to Mata potentially signing an extension.

it's not all that complicated, if we lose Mata it'll force us to bring another player in, it'll be a long season with plenty of matches and we need players. It's not like it means that he'll be the first player on the team sheet, but a good player to have available as a backup. The likes of Gomes etc will still get plenty of chances to show that they are good enough

Sounds lazy to me and pretty much why we keep extending contracts of players that have no business being at Manchester United.

You don’t see this from clubs who are constantly challenging yet united think this plan will get us back to where we should be.

Don’t agree with it, don’t see it working and it’s depressing which is why we will start the season hoping for top four while Ed does his quarterly shareholder report talking about tweets, twats and tits.

 

[Sandikan]

Not sure why so many react so badly to Mata potentially signing an extension.

it's not all that complicated, if we lose Mata it'll force us to bring another player in, it'll be a long season with plenty of matches and we need players. It's not like it means that he'll be the first player on the team sheet, but a good player to have available as a backup. The likes of Gomes etc will still get plenty of chances to show that they are good enough

It's because Ole was quoted saying something along the lines of how he was going to clear the decks of, not "deadwood" as that's a horrible insulting phrase, but something along those lines.

Then Jones signed on, Young did, and now it looks like Mata will. Rojo is supposedly in favour, Bailly will get another chance most likely.

So who the heck are these players that will be moved on?!

Darmian, we cannot seem to shift, even though he plays about 5 games a season.
Valencia obviously went.

Was the "deadwood" just Valencia?!

 

[Sandikan]

Sounds lazy to me and pretty much why we keep extending contracts of players that have no business being at Manchester United.

You don’t see this from clubs who are constantly challenging yet united think this plan will get us back to where we should be.

Don’t agree with it, don’t see it working and it’s depressing which is why we will start the season hoping for top four while Ed does his quarterly shareholder report talking about tweets, twats and tits.

Pep stormed into City and shipped their whole full back roster out in one go.
We haven't had a specialist right back in about 6-7 years, and Shaw has had about 18months of anything near form in 6 years here!

That's one of the huge differences between us and them!

 

[Reiver]

Stop talking to him, give him 24 hours to sign or to feck off. If he doesn't sign it's no great loss.

 

[Alvaro Maestre]

Its like a new signing!! Love Mata.

 

[fergiesarmy1]

Pep stormed into City and shipped their whole full back roster out in one go.
We haven't had a specialist right back in about 6-7 years, and Shaw has had about 18months of anything near form in 6 years here!

That's one of the huge differences between us and them!

Pretty much be sure Joe Hart would still be our number one if the situations were reversed, England’s No 1, what a great marketing opportunity

 

[UncleBob]

It's because Ole was quoted saying something along the lines of how he was going to clear the decks of, not "deadwood" as that's a horrible insulting phrase, but something along those lines.

It takes time.

We'll sign a first choice fullback, but if we booted Ashley Young out of the club this summer we'd have no backup option on the left or right side, which would mean either playing a cb out of position (which wouldn't work if we were faced with injuries in that position as well) or bring in an extra player to replace Youngs role as a backup. So he gets a contract extension which will see him leave next summer, no worries.

Herrera deciding to turn down our contract offers has resulted in us being forced to bring in someone just to replace his role.

There's plenty of positions that needs to be filled before we can start shipping players out

 

[red4ever 79]

Spineless cowards the board. All this talk about a rebuild and we keep players who contribute nothing.

 

[Seven Seas Sardines]

Pretty much be sure Joe Hart would still be our number one if the situations were reversed, England’s No 1, what a great marketing opportunity

MUFC are delighted to announce the signing of Burnley's fourth choice keeper! Look out Grant!

 

[Kostov]

What is there to talk about with Mata? Thank him for his service and all the best to the guy, it’s time to move on.

 

[Class of 63]

This is Bull, we should be showing Mata Door

I'll get my coat.

 

[Sandikan]

Pretty much be sure Joe Hart would still be our number one if the situations were reversed, England’s No 1, what a great marketing opportunity

We've been totally caught out by the surge in transfer fees and the way all English premier league clubs have sh!ttonnes of money now.

It's like we've woken up in the Weimar Republic, and hyperinflation is the new climate.

But, but, we have loads of money.
Yes, but it's 80m for an average centre back, 50m for a one season right back. 60m for a midfielder at West Ham who we used to bring through 2-3 a year better than.

 

[Sandikan]

It takes time.

We'll sign a first choice fullback, but if we booted Ashley Young out of the club this summer we'd have no backup option on the left or right side, which would mean either playing a cb out of position (which wouldn't work if we were faced with injuries in that position as well) or bring in an extra player to replace Youngs role as a backup. So he gets a contract extension which will see him leave next summer, no worries.

Herrera deciding to turn down our contract offers has resulted in us being forced to bring in someone just to replace his role.

There's plenty of positions that needs to be filled before we can start shipping players out

Of course, I agree that it's a "process" without coming on all LVG

But I'm pretty sure 99% of us as manager would have come in and gone

• Mata - release
• Valencia - release
• Darmian - instead of paying him 5-6m for his last year, accept 5m off whichever Italian team still wants him
• Rojo - ship off for whatever we can get
• Bailly/Jones - ship one off.

Relegate Young, and whoever of the bottom line who stays to mere squad fill. One of Smalling/Lindelöf becomes the same.

Then, we have the task of 1xCM, 1xCB, 1x RB as an absolute minimum

 

[talking robot]

I honestly couldn’t give two fecks if he stays or goes

 

[fergiesarmy1]

We've been totally caught out by the surge in transfer fees and the way all English premier league clubs have sh!ttonnes of money now.

It's like we've woken up in the Weimar Republic, and hyperinflation is the new climate.

But, but, we have loads of money.
Yes, but it's 80m for an average centre back, 50m for a one season right back. 60m for a midfielder at West Ham who we used to bring through 2-3 a year better than.

Hence our strategy change to young and up and coming players (which I’m not against) it just shows how fecked we are at the moment as a club chasing our tail while our competition goes from strength to strength, because their squads are already more than capable it’s tweaks they do. Realistically but unrealistic at the same time we need to ship 90% out and recruit more.

At least we had the 99 remembrances

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Not sure why so many react so badly to Mata potentially signing an extension.

it's not all that complicated, if we lose Mata it'll force us to bring another player in, it'll be a long season with plenty of matches and we need players. It's not like it means that he'll be the first player on the team sheet, but a good player to have available as a backup. The likes of Gomes etc will still get plenty of chances to show that they are good enough

This logic is the reason Young, Jones, Lingard, Rojo, etc are all still at the club.

 

[Zlatattack]

Didn’t you bother to read the rest?

If Mata leaves, as well as Sanchez and Lukaku, then we’re left with three first team attackers. Bearing in mind we could really do with two new attackers as it is, we can’t afford to lose numbers in that area.

Yes we can. They contribute nothing. Kids from the academy could make up the numbers. What has Sanchez added to our side this season that Gomes, Greenwood or Chong couldn't have done? No more senior players making up the numbers.

 

[Sandikan]

This logic is the reason Young, Jones, Lingard, Rojo, etc are all still at the club.

Those players wouldn't be a disaster as occasional squad fill, although we could still ship a couple, but the real problem is that between them they're making 100 appearances a season.

 

[UncleBob]

This logic is the reason Young, Jones, Lingard, Rojo, etc are all still at the club.

Not really. Mourinho could've replaced Young if he had wanted, but he considered him to be one of the first players on the team sheet.

Hardly an issue that Lingard is at the club.

 

[-Supreme-]

It's very likely that Mata has been offered a year extension which I'd doubt he would even consider

Time to move on and let our youth players like Chong or Gomes to take up his squad role.

 

[Jim Beam]

I love Mata, but if he can't get a better offer then 1 year extension with us that says a lot really.

Our transfers in have been mostly awful along with being expensive and then to top it off we can't get decent money for them or can't rid of them because of their wages. Those who come to the end of their contract get 1 year extension because we can't buy the whole first team and we, erm.. can't rid of those who are on longer contracts. Rinse and repeat. And then some people say the club is not badly run.

Won't lose my sleep over it, love the man and at least he is a good character for younger players to be around, but all together is a bit frustrating.

 

[Mainoldo]

If he stays.. this will be part 1 of Ole’s demise!!

Pace and energy he’s been promising us.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

I think it's amazing he's still at the club honestly.

I think overall, he's not been a success or a flop.

However, his last 2 seasons have been terrible IMO and he was our worst outfield performer overall the past 2 seasons for me.

No one out there even wants him(those Barca stories are pure BS). And yet we want to keep him.

He literally offers nothing nowadays. He can't play out wide. Can't play as the #10. Can't play deeper in CM.