VAR - Not the hero we want, the one we need

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Is there any video (gif?) of that handball, saw it mentioned in Bundesliga thread as well.
Can't really find one - but I guess the rules of VAR is to use it, if a big error has not been spotted by the ref. This was not big in any way I think.
 

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Probably the most apt thread.

Currently watching the African Champions League final. They are using VAR for the first time.
WAC just scored a perfectly legit goal and the linesman flagged for offside. The referee refused to go to VAR to check as he let Tunis take a quick goal quick. WAC are now refusing to play. Even VAR can't stop the home bias in Africa.
 

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Probably the most apt thread.

Currently watching the African Champions League final. They are using VAR for the first time.
WAC just scored a perfectly legit goal and the linesman flagged for offside. The referee refused to go to VAR to check as he let Tunis take a quick goal quick. WAC are now refusing to play. Even VAR can't stop the home bias in Africa.
Has this really been going on for 20 odd minutes? Guy on Bein sports is calling it a technical issue.
 

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Has this really been going on for 20 odd minutes? Guy on Bein sports is calling it a technical issue.
40 minutes almost now. If it isn't solved within the next 20 minutes then it will be replayed.

Tunis are saying that VAR hasn't been working all game, which is most likely a complete lie. There is huge corruption in African football and Tunis been heavily accused in the past. There is zero chance that VAR hasn't been working all game.
 

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40 minutes almost now. If it isn't solved within the next 20 minutes then it will be replayed.

Tunis are saying that VAR hasn't been working all game, which is most likely a complete lie. There is huge corruption in African football and Tunis been heavily accused in the past. There is zero chance that VAR hasn't been working all game.
What a clusterfeck. Seems it might not be replayed, they might just away the win. Shocking stuff.
 

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What a clusterfeck. Seems it might not be replayed, they might just away the win. Shocking stuff.
Match officially interrupted now, think it'll be replayed in the next couple of days. Completely crazy. Should have just given the goal via replays and agreed to finish the game without VAR if it really is faulty.
 

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Match officially interrupted now, think it'll be replayed in the next couple of days. Completely crazy. Should have just given the goal via replays and agreed to finish the game without VAR if it really is faulty.
They’ve been saying that that was the suggestion as soon as that goal was scored but Wydad refused.
 

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Match officially interrupted now, think it'll be replayed in the next couple of days. Completely crazy. Should have just given the goal via replays and agreed to finish the game without VAR if it really is faulty.
:lol: Bein guy is now getting different info. No one knows what they feck they are doing.
 

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Match officially interrupted now, think it'll be replayed in the next couple of days. Completely crazy. Should have just given the goal via replays and agreed to finish the game without VAR if it really is faulty.
Yeah but if the game should be continued without VAR they should go with original linesman decision isn't it? Otherwise it will be selective use of replays. I know it's unfair but what would have happened if there was a clear penalty denied by ref?
 

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What a shit show. Like they couldnt just have the tv replay shown to the ref on a tablet. 45 plus minutes and no one thought of that? what a joke.
They showed the replay in the stadium straight after so everyone knew it was onside. Apparently that can't be used under the regulations.
Yeah but if the game should be continued without VAR they should go with original linesman decision isn't it? Otherwise it will be selective use of replays. I know it's unfair but what would have happened if there was a clear penalty denied by ref?
The game is meant to have VAR though and until this point the belief was VAR was in use. At least if the goal is given then the teams are informed that VAR is no longer in use then both sides know the script at least.
 

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The game is meant to have VAR though and until this point the belief was VAR was in use. At least if the goal is given then the teams are informed that VAR is no longer in use then both sides know the script at least.
Fair enough but not sure if they can use other replays other than the one they have for VAR. Might be completely wrong but I thought that's how it works.

In any case, it's a farce that it has come to this, especially in (African)CL finals
 

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Probably the most apt thread.

Currently watching the African Champions League final. They are using VAR for the first time.
WAC just scored a perfectly legit goal and the linesman flagged for offside. The referee refused to go to VAR to check as he let Tunis take a quick goal quick. WAC are now refusing to play. Even VAR can't stop the home bias in Africa.
Who did you put money on?
 

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This is ridiculous. If VAR is not working, they either continue and the ref makes his decisions without VAR, or they replay the game at a later date (which is difficult with the Africa Cup around the corner). Keeping everyone in limbo is absurd.
 

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Ref just awarded Espérance the win and just like that they’re champions of Africa :lol:
 

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Someone please make a thread about the african club championship final
 

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I honestly thought after the Libertadores shitshow I wouldn’t see anything as dramatic in a continental final again in my life.

I only had to wait 6 months.
 

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It seems that the match was awarded to the opposition when the team who 'scored' refused to continue - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48483152

If VAR was not working for the whole game then the mistake seems to be not informing the teams of this. At that point, the game should continue as a normal non-VAR game and so replays shown on big screens, etc. can't be used (just like they couldn't be in the Millwall V Everton game earlier in the year with the handball by the Millwall player or with the Carlos Tevez offside goal in Argentina V Mexico at the 2010 World Cup.)

You would otherwise have an issue if a similar incident occurred at the other end and was not replayed on the big screens.
 

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Stonewall penalty and correct decision. Don't get the discussions in the match thread. Whole thing was really well handled.
 

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A bit harsh, but Semedo's knee caught him in flight, and it caused him to trip over his own feet, which is why it went to VAR. Seen them given and missed.
An accidental tangle of legs shouldn’t be a penalty. He’s a quality referee so not surprised he didn’t give it in real time. Watching multiple replays while the whole world waits for a decision seems to make referees overthink these things. See also multiple “handball” atrocities.
 

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An accidental tangle of legs shouldn’t be a penalty. He’s a quality referee so not surprised he didn’t give it in real time. Watching multiple replays while the whole world waits for a decision seems to make referees overthink these things. See also multiple “handball” atrocities.
If you are running after a player and you accidentally catch his heels and make him fall, it's a penalty. A lot of this will happen this season with VAR.
 

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VAR is meant to change clear and obvious mistakes. That was a 2 goal swing decision and it was most definitely not a clear and obvious one. It was a very slight touch and the Swiss player forces the trip. Guerreiro got tripped exactly the same way in the 80th minute inside the box and VAR didn’t do anything. If they think it might be a penalty then tell the ref to stop the game before the team has the chance to get to the other side of the pitch and score. To go from a 2-0 to 1-1 like that is as harsh as it gets.

We got fecked by VAR at the World Cup too, Fernando Santos had pretty harsh words in the post match interview.
 

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An accidental tangle of legs shouldn’t be a penalty. He’s a quality referee so not surprised he didn’t give it in real time. Watching multiple replays while the whole world waits for a decision seems to make referees overthink these things. See also multiple “handball” atrocities.
You may be about to encounter the new-ish rule that says that all VAR decisions are by definition of emanating from the VAR process considered to be 100 % correct.

And anyway, the old way of doing it got stuff wrong too. There is that as well.