I said pretty much the same thing although Tbf ADM was nowhere near as good with us as Pogba was. I guess we deserve our Lingards and our Joneses
Pogba Future
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He had some games where he honestly looked like he was sabotaging the team. He also had poor games. How many goals from open play did he score? I know we were shit in general and I'm not saying anyone else is immune from criticism, but he can't be that delicate. That scene with that idiot in the last game of the season is not representative of the supporters at large.
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Guess it’s now inevitable Pogba is leaving this summer, what we need to do is be firm on him not leaving for any less than £150 million. If he’s going to Juve then we want Dybala and Cancelo plus money or £150 million and if it’s Real then Varane and money or straight up £150 million, Pogba has 3 years left on his contract so we are in a strong position.
Guess it’s now inevitable Pogba is leaving this summer, what we need to do is be firm on him not leaving for any less than £150 million. If he’s going to Juve then we want Dybala and Cancelo plus money or £150 million and if it’s Real then Varane and money or straight up £150 million, Pogba has 3 years left on his contract so we are in a strong position.
He doesn't deserve to be boo'd
Though he was dropping subpar performances for the majority of the season.
This is why I feel so conflicted on this one. Especially with Ole being the Manager. Sad to say but I dont trust him (and Woodward) at the moment to sell our best players in the interest of building a stronger more cohesive squad. If any of them had a track record of doing that in the past then it would be different.
You're blind and part of what's wrong with football today. The hero worship/cult of personality is insufferable. He brought it on himself. He wants to be the man but has not shown enough for it. When you're the best of a bad bunch, it doesn't mean you're elite.
Ashley Young, for all his weaknesses has been subject to far more vicious criticism. Heck, even Phil Jones has seen far worse and it often devolves into discussions that are far beyond his footballing ability.
Half of his goals this season are penalties. 8, plus I think he's missed two or three himself. Apart from that spell after Mourinho was sacked he's been bang average this season.
Agree that going to a football match doesn't give you the right to abuse players but each to their own.
He knows he's capable of more, everyone does, he won a world cup. He's just not been interested in the effort it's going to take here all season.
The most amusing part is that he called this season his «best» when he spoke in Tokyo.
I'm sure they'd do everything possible to get such a star into the fold of their PR project.
It appears I have been watching the same games as you (all of them).
Consistent with his attitude that for some reason still gets plenty of plaudits here. I genuinely cannot remember the last player we've had for whom so many shit excuses were thrown left and right.
glad he's coming out with something like this early. The earlier his future is sorted the better.
Glad he is leaving, his own fans telling him to do one after the final game of the season was disgusting. Our best player by far wants out and I will enjoy all the pundits saying we should never have let him go, that he is world class while he is tearing it up for Madrid in the CL after they spent years slating him.
United are in free fall.
United are in free fall.
I never said he was magnificent. However he was, by far, the best of a shit bunch
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Young got applauded in our last game. The difference here is that Pogba had done very well last season while the latter were shit
None of those players were bought to replace a departing key player.
The premier League is a lot more effort than places like Spain and Italy.
Pogba hasn't got it in him to deliver throughout a season, consistently.
A lovely player when all is going well, but it takes a lot more than that to be a success in the Premier League.
I'm more than happy seeing the back of him.
Because that's assuming our board (well Woodward) is capable of signing Bruno and Tielemens, on top of replacing Pogba which we know fine well isn't the case. At least if we got Isco in the Pogba deal it's a case of just negotiating with the player, something surely the clown Woodward can do.
But you'd expect him to be the guy to raise the levels of those around him.
As someone who fancies them selves a leader, he showed very little leadership in a United shirt.
We won't buy anyone good to replace him and people will have to start complaining about McTominay and Fred when we turn up with even more toothless performances than last season.
Manchester United is bigger than Paul Pogba. We'll be alright.
The way United fans have treated our players, I'm not surprised he wants to leave. However, if he wants to go to Madrid, he'll be treated worse by that vermin.
I doubt even Jesus/mohammed/moses can do that with the likes of jlingz, young and Jones and im a believer
McTominay and Fred showed more grit away to PSG than Pogba did for us
His name has gone from the printing of shirts through the United website. Seems this is a done deal already.
What a shit season this is turning out to be.
What a shit season this is turning out to be.
We really are not lowballing anyone though. They just want us to pay 10-15m more than the fair fee.
He is poacher and no he doesn't play on the right, in fact I'm not sure if he has even played wide once in his career.
Matchgoing fans or?
I do not think any team will be willing to pay the amounts being said here.
Well, there you are then...
Agree. Big, big gamble being made by a manager who is a gamble appointment in himself. If we don't make the right decisions this window, I could see us failing out the top 6. Yes it sounds knee jerk but the shits really that real if we get these kind of decisions wrong. Selling him and potentially DDG going ok, but it's who comes in to replace them is as much of the gamble as selling them....
1 game, huh.
I hope you're with me praying we get a midfielder that can actually do something other than "show grit".
Exactly.
Imagine the best person at your place of work came in and started publicly telling the boss that he needs to sign better staff because the current bunch are shit and he's off otherwise?
How people would sympathise with him?
Maybe but that doesn't account for our recent record in the transfer market and clubs now wanting more than ever for their players. Our midfield is non-existent without Herrera and Pogba and selling clubs will be all too aware of that.
Well done to the fans who constantly booed one of our better players this season, this is for you.
I will always be grateful to Pogba for having the balls to stand up to that arrogant and deluded arsehole Mourinhio, he could obviously see that he was taking us nowhere with his outdated and dull tactics.
I only wash our 'fans' had the same foresight as you did and didn't just form their opinions based on whatever the media tell them to think.
I will always be grateful to Pogba for having the balls to stand up to that arrogant and deluded arsehole Mourinhio, he could obviously see that he was taking us nowhere with his outdated and dull tactics.
I only wash our 'fans' had the same foresight as you did and didn't just form their opinions based on whatever the media tell them to think.
Blaming the fans for him going now are we
Just fecking sell him. Absolutely sick of the circus this clown brings. He's nowhere near good enough to justify it. Sick of him.
There should be no reason why we can't have Neves and Rabiot as it stands. Pogba got the numbers that he did last season playing with an aging Matic and a workhorse with very limited attacking ability in Herrera. Neves, Rabiot, Pogba would make a world class midfield. Whichever way you look at it loosing Pogba would be a massive blow.
This will be like loosing Stam and adding Nisterloy. You win in one area while loosing a lot in another. We already seem unable to fix the existing problems, if we loose our only world class player in the process, we are going backwards.
I'd sell him if Im in charge of the transfer. Losing him is not a bad thing at all. In fact in can have many knocks on effect. We can play 2 in the midfield and not worrying that he wont track back or get exposed, we dont have to play 433 to accommodate him and requires 2 engine just to get the best out of him, we also can play with a true no 10 (bruno) that can actually create and score. This will certainly unlock most opportunities even after losing a world class talent like him.
At his best, he is just a luxury player. He cant and wont change the game out of nowhere ala Hazard, Messi, Ronaldo, Salah etc. He IMHO is a gold plated engine where we dont even have all the components of a working cars. Plus he isn't worth the hassle.
I hope the board will sell him. We can get players like the betis midfielder Coleso/bruno/Ndidi that actually work twice as harder and are as good as him. I really hope we sell him.
At his best, he is just a luxury player. He cant and wont change the game out of nowhere ala Hazard, Messi, Ronaldo, Salah etc. He IMHO is a gold plated engine where we dont even have all the components of a working cars. Plus he isn't worth the hassle.
I hope the board will sell him. We can get players like the betis midfielder Coleso/bruno/Ndidi that actually work twice as harder and are as good as him. I really hope we sell him.
There is no new indictment on the club that wasn't there already. If he came to win, he should have taken leadership and responsibilities but he acted like he always had one foot out of the door.
I'd be glad when him and his agent feck off.