#GlazersOut

[DomesticTadpole]

You people need a reality check.

Your club is nr. 2 on the list in net spending looking at last 5 seasons combined on transfermarkt.

In: 911 mil €
Out: 276 mil €
Net spend: 635 mil €

The only club that spent more is City and PSG is third on that list.

Your owners might be leaches, but they are not holding out when it comes to transfer money. Every step you have done after SAF left was the wrong one. Wrong managers, wrong players, panic buys, getting in bed with the likes of Mendes and Raiola on their terms, extending contracts to players that just can not compete on the required level any more.

Then that is down to the decision makers and presumably Woodward, who makes our owners loads of money, so they will never sack him, so we are screwed for a long time, until he stumbles on a right decision.

 

[Raw]

You people need a reality check.

Your club is nr. 2 on the list in net spending looking at last 5 seasons combined on transfermarkt.

In: 911 mil €
Out: 276 mil €
Net spend: 635 mil €

The only club that spent more is City and PSG is third on that list.

Your owners might be leaches, but they are not holding out when it comes to transfer money. Every step you have done after SAF left was the wrong one. Wrong managers, wrong players, panic buys, getting in bed with the likes of Mendes and Raiola on their terms, extending contracts to players that just can not compete on the required level any more.

All of that is not the Glazers, it's a system or lack of it at the club's management level.

I don't think it's the spending, it's more the structure. The Glazers couldn't give two shits about how the club is run, just as long as it's profitable. If they actually cared they'd sack Woodward and employ people who actually know about football, and set up a sustainable structure that puts more emphasis on the footballing side of things. But of course Woody makes them money so why change that?

The decisions made post-Fergie only prove how incompetent everyone running United are.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

I don't think it's the spending, it's more the structure. The Glazers couldn't give two shits about how the club is run, just as long as it's profitable. If they actually cared they'd sack Woodward and employ people who actually know about football, and set up a sustainable structure that puts more emphasis on the footballing side of things. But of course Woody makes them money so why change that?

The decisions made post-Fergie only prove how incompetent everyone running United are.

Funny thing is if they actually did all this, they might make even more money.

 

[Sandikan]

Green and gold until the club is sold.... or until we realise a few scarfs won't do jack

 

[gaucho_10]

I don't think it's the spending, it's more the structure. The Glazers couldn't give two shits about how the club is run, just as long as it's profitable. If they actually cared they'd sack Woodward and employ people who actually know about football, and set up a sustainable structure that puts more emphasis on the footballing side of things. But of course Woody makes them money so why change that?

The decisions made post-Fergie only prove how incompetent everyone running United are.

At some point you will not be able to grow your income if you keep playing in Europa League and superstar players don't want to sign for United any more. It doesn't happen over night, but it will happen eventually if things don't change.

There's good players on the market every summer. You just need to go out and buy them. Sane is a first 11 material for any club in the world. That CM from Lyon, Ndombele, why let him go to Spurs, just offer more money and get the guy. Koulibaly is world class. We have a young LB Reguilon who won't get a chance under Zidane but will go on to be a top player. Need another midifelder, Lo Celso or Ceballos. There's quality out there and it's not impossible to sign those players.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

At some point you will not be able to grow your income if you keep playing in Europa League and superstar players don't want to sign for United any more. It doesn't happen over night, but it will happen eventually if things don't change.

There's good players on the market every summer. You just need to go out and buy them. Sane is a first 11 material for any club in the world. That CM from Lyon, Ndombele, why let him go to Spurs, just offer more money and get the guy. Koulibaly is world class. We have a young LB Reguilon who won't get a chance under Zidane but will go on to be a top player. Need another midifelder, Lo Celso or Ceballos. There's quality out there and it's not impossible to sign those players.

It appears that Ole thinks we need a large British core and the players you mention are wary of us, not because of EL football, it could be a reason, but I think main reason unfortunately is Ole. Our club is so unstable at the moment, we are changing managers, but are stuttering because of it, where Chelsea do it time and again and more often than not get CL football.

 

[McGrathsipan]

The EL got us back into the CL, the cups is TV coverage round the world, so still keeps us in the media spotlight. Shirt sales might have an effect, I know we have already had the money, but Adidas want their money back. Ed has always said ticket sales don't matter in the big scheme of things. Now if people did not show, it would not look great regarding TV pictures round the world.

That's my train of thought. Empty stadiums means more than just tickets after a while.
It's a sign of a dud product. Sponsors don't want to be associated with a dud product.

 

[Gopher Brown]

All the sponsorship deals in the world, selling out the club to the highest bidder, restructuring finances, and the moment the club actually needs a substantial transfer kitty (tbh, we’ve needed it for 3 years), we get given enough to sign 2 decent players!

Christ on a barnacle I hope this isn’t true.

 

[Tincanalley]

Excellent to see this in the Caf, does my heart good. #GlazersOut #WoodyOut #FootballFirst. The first thing is the massive fanbase turning against them. Even if it hastens the exit of these goons by just five minutes, its well worth it.

 

[UnitedObsession99]

ESPN UK (@ESPNUK) Tweeted:
Man United only have £100m for transfers https://t.co/YboE9Om6NY

Tweet

— Twitter API (@user) date

Would love to know if there is something behind this. There are some sensible reasons to suggest our budget is low to help with negotiation. But if it's true we are in trouble

 

[clarkydaz]

You people need a reality check.

Your club is nr. 2 on the list in net spending looking at last 5 seasons combined on transfermarkt.

In: 911 mil €
Out: 276 mil €
Net spend: 635 mil €

The only club that spent more is City and PSG is third on that list.

Your owners might be leaches, but they are not holding out when it comes to transfer money. Every step you have done after SAF left was the wrong one. Wrong managers, wrong players, panic buys, getting in bed with the likes of Mendes and Raiola on their terms, extending contracts to players that just can not compete on the required level any more.

All of that is not the Glazers, it's a system or lack of it at the club's management level.

And whose fault is that, its their bloody club!

 

[Hughie77]

Love the club to be sold to better people, it's not going to happen! They make to much money from the club, Woodward is there man.
He needs to pull off some awesome transfers this window to be given even a little bit of respect? Something tells me he won't, the guys a ditherer in the market.

He's been doing it for 6 seasons or so, and the only ones that he's got over the line were the ones nobody else wanted.?
The Glazers are really here to stay

 

[MancunianAngels]

Excellent to see this in the Caf, does my heart good. #GlazersOut #WoodyOut #FootballFirst. The first thing is the massive fanbase turning against them. Even if it hastens the exit of these goons by just five minutes, its well worth it.

As I’ve said in the other thread, all of this is ultimately pointless whilst the ground is full every week.

We went through in 2010 and are repeating the same mistakes. For any successful and effective protest, you need the following.

1) Effective leadership amongst the match going support rather than social media reds. United We Stand and Red News need to step up.

2) An end game for when any protest is taken in the real world. Marches had no impact in 2010, flash mobs against sponsors looked great in 2005 but ultimately failed.
- Why would a tweet be any different?

3) Likewise, if Daniel James turns out to be the next Ronaldo, will everyone just shut up about the Glazers until he’s sold to Madrid for 200 million and they start hash tagging again?

 

[el3mel]

They'll sell sooner or later. Few more crap seasons and they won't be able to milk a failing club forever, so they'll sell for the biggest profit and feck off. We just have to endure for now.

 

[George The Best]

It’s all futile. Take a reality check. The only thing that can/will force the Glazers out is somebody coming up with a few billion pounds to buy them out. We’d be better off begging to the mega rich and national states to find a buyer, rather than trying to hound them out - as that won’t happen. And i’m Not a Glazer lover either, just a realist.

 

[Marcelinho87]

Check out AONs Twitter it's been flooded with glazer out they are blocking people.

 

[TsuWave]

i don't think the glazers will look at twitter hashtags and say "well, time for us to hit the road", i mean i hope those involved get the outcome they want, especially if its for the betterment of the club, but this just doesn't seem very realistic to me

 

[ArjenIsM3]

i don't think the glazers will look at twitter hashtags and say "well, time for us to hit the road", i mean i hope those involved get the outcome they want, especially if its for the betterment of the club, but this just doesn't seem very realistic to me

It's fans voicing their opinion in public. It's a signal toward the club. There's no doubt this will be discussed within the club tomorrow. Hopefully this is just the beginning. Would love to see some banners at the first home game of the season

 

[Fosu-Mens]

i don't think the glazers will look at twitter hashtags and say "well, time for us to hit the road", i mean i hope those involved get the outcome they want, especially if its for the betterment of the club, but this just doesn't seem very realistic to me

One should atleast try, and hopefully someone will take notice, either it be from a commercial standpoint or some of our ex-players that are not getting money from the club.

 

[Heymrtangerineman]

Enough is enough. For the first time in a long time i haven't renewed my membership. Zero confidence. None.

 

[George The Best]

It's fans voicing their opinion in public. It's a signal toward the club. There's no doubt this will be discussed within the club tomorrow. Hopefully this is just the beginning. Would love to see some banners at the first home game of the season

What are they going to discuss exactly?

‘We are not trending very well on twitter, what’s to be done? I know, let’s sell the club’.

Right.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

They'll sell sooner or later. Few more crap seasons and they won't be able to milk a failing club forever, so they'll sell for the biggest profit and feck off. We just have to endure for now.

I'm happy to do that personally, I know nothing much will change now until they're gone, 'it has to get worse before it gets better', and all that.

 

[clarkydaz]

i don't think the glazers will look at twitter hashtags and say "well, time for us to hit the road", i mean i hope those involved get the outcome they want, especially if its for the betterment of the club, but this just doesn't seem very realistic to me

well its bad publicity for them. Cynically you could say it makes sponsors aware of an irate fanbase. They get a free ride selling the myth that used to be our club

 

[ArjenIsM3]

What are they going to discuss exactly?

‘We are not trending very well on twitter, what’s to be done? I know, let’s sell the club’.

Right.

Don't be daft.

 

[Green_Red]

Things that would also help gain notice / attention (maybe)

-Respond to every United tweet with that (spam it)
-respond to sponsors with that

Then things that may help
-cancel mutv
-dont renew United memberships

And obviously not really boycotting games but not buying tickets
(Problem being the huge fanbase so there will always be somebody to take the place and spend in megastore)
Etc

How will I get tickets to the games then? Crazy suggestion.

 

[George The Best]

Don't be daft.

Pretty daft to even think it will be discussed imo.

 

[Marcelinho87]

Pretty daft to even think it will be discussed imo.

Well when major club sponsors are getting bombarded you bet that it will be discussed... How can they sell a product if all you can see is protests on their stuff?

If it prolongs they won't be pleased.

 

[George The Best]

Well when major club sponsors are getting bombarded you bet that it will be discussed... How can they sell a product if all you can see is protests on their stuff?

If it prolongs they won't be pleased.

Fine - so what exactly do you expect the club to do about it?

 

[Florida Man]

What are they going to discuss exactly?

‘We are not trending very well on twitter, what’s to be done? I know, let’s sell the club’.

Right.

If any company I've worked for is anything to go by, they will definitely discuss bad PR.

 

[Marcelinho87]

Fine - so what exactly do you expect the club to do about it?

They will try spin it, put out good news or sign somebody. Sadly a lot of fans will take that and move on.

 

[Zlatattack]

Im in. Time to spam the social media. Let it make headlines.

 

[George The Best]

If any company I've worked for is anything to go by, they will definitely discuss bad PR.

Of course they will. But trending on twitter will last a day or two. They’ve still got lots of positive PR too. Shares jumped on Ole’s appointment, season tickets sold in record time, new buys on the transfer market etc. Besides, even the sponsors will know, this is a futile protest.

They are definitely not going to make a knee jerk reaction. Anybody who thinks this sort of campaign, or previous ones, will lead to the Glazers quitting are sadly misguided - for the simple reason that they can’t, unless somebody comes up with the dosh.

 

[Zen86]

It’s serious business when the hashtags start coming out.

 

[George The Best]

It’s serious business when the hashtags start coming out.

Maybe, but what, exactly, do you hope it will achieve? Serious question which I’ve asked a few times now - with no answers.

 

[Zen86]

Maybe, but what, exactly, do you hope it will achieve? Serious question which I’ve asked a few times now - with no answers.

Absolutely nothing. This is the most millennial thread ever.

 

[Marcelinho87]

Maybe, but what, exactly, do you hope it will achieve? Serious question which I’ve asked a few times now - with no answers.

Publicity is all it can achieve.

 

[oreon]

Hey guys. Please sign this petition to get the Glazers out http://chng.it/WKYTSdXFGd It has all the ManUTD sponsors tagged. The Glazersout hashtag on Twitter was great but unfortunately, like most twitter trends it gets replaced by another trending subject.

There was a petition to remake last season of Game Of Thrones which got about 1.6 mil signatures. Manchester United has over 300 mil followers globally. We can easily get to a million signatures. If we have million plus signatures the sponsors, media and Glazers would have to take notice.

The only way this works if we all sign and then share. Please retweet on twitter. If someone has an account on Reddit, please share it there. And also share on all your social media and or any other forums you are on. Maybe this doesn't catch fire but it's worth a shot. It takes less than a minute to sign the petition and less than a minute to retweet or share on social media. Thanks

 

[wolvored]

The only thing that would make them think is if it made worldwide news. Something like an orchestrated walk out after 60 minutes, where 50,000+ fans just all got up and left

 

[Snafu17]

Could not the fans just do a rendition of "feck off Woodward/Glazers" every week at OT and away matches. It would help as much as this campaign, which is precisely feck all, but at least it would make me feel better.

 

[George The Best]

The only thing that would make them think is if it made worldwide news. Something like an orchestrated walk out after 60 minutes, where 50,000+ fans just all got up and left

So that will make them think - ok, so these Brits don’t like us here. So what, what happens next - they hand over the keys and walk away from a £4bn asset. Yeah right.