Nobody ever said we were linked to him. Think the story is complete bollocks, but isn’t it fun to kick us while we’re down?
Solskjaer target 5 signings; 6 players could leave [BBC, Telegraph, Guardian]
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Us being turned down by players generally I can definitely believe. We're not in the CL and, more importantly, we've been a mess for years with no real reason to think that's going to change beyond hope.
If I was a player like AWB that's no problem, Manchester United is a huge step up regardless. Once you're at a level where you can have multiple opportunities to join various big clubs though, why risk coming here? If I could I'd wait a year and if I couldn't I'd look for a more stable club.
Yeah an experienced defender relatively cheap sounds plausible. Like godin and others last year
I take it back! I don't want to know anymore
This could be the most reasonable reason of the report.
My apologies. I didn't mean to hype it up too much - I did say there's nothing really new that we didn't already know. Just thought I'd add the perspective of a journo who writes for a site that has a zero BS policy. Here are the best passages:
What we are already well aware of:
About why it's been hard to sign players:
About Wan-Bissaka:
About De Ligt:
About Koulibaly:
About Maguire:
About Sancho:
My takeaways: aside from corroboration on United involvement in certain transfer deals (Maguire, De Ligt, Koulibaly, Sancho) from a journalist who wouldn't be allowed to push BS by his editor, there isn't a whole lot of new information. The biggest takeaway was the midsection about how agents and players have noticed our dysfunction over the last couple of seasons. For those on here who draw comparisons to Madrid's transfer window, it is a sharp rebuke. I only wish the author had spent a little time inquiring about how we are reacting to being rebuffed - by switching scouting priorities, etc. How we respond to being told "no" by our top targets will really shape the club's fortunes moving forward.
I have this saddening feeling we won't buy any CB... get a mediocre midfielder, and no forward. Unless Pogba, Lukaku and De Gea are sold we will be lucky to get more than 2,3 players.
De Gea can only go to Juve and PSG
Pogba can only go to Madrid and Juve
Lukaku can only go to Inter.
And during this transfer window all these deals seem highly unlikely to happen.
De Gea can only go to Juve and PSG
Pogba can only go to Madrid and Juve
Lukaku can only go to Inter.
And during this transfer window all these deals seem highly unlikely to happen.
Solskjaer did say in May there would be one or two additions. A lot thought this was just a turn of phrase but I wasnt convinced it was and now its beginning to look that way.
There will be more additions than that but generally yes, I thought Ole made it pretty clear prior to the summer that there wouldn't be that many purchases. To the point where I wondered why posters here were even talking about massive overhaul.
Assuming we sign AWB, then I expect us to target a CB and midfielders to replace Herrera and Matic, unless Ole thinks McTominay or Fred can replace them.
it hurts more because he was a boyhood united fan. Damn you Hummmeelllssssss
Weather he thinks or not, they can't replace them.
Fred is under rated imo. In the second part of last season he had some very good games and imo the mistakes he made were because he still hasn t adjusted to the pace of PL.
I think we should give him another chance.
So while woodward continued with the signing galacticos approach, with united probably being a tad too ambitious in their targets, i cant help but think how slow and ponderous they are in realising the predicament they are in.
Fergie seems on the ball in pointing towards Steve Walsh who can clearly identify potentially talented players that dont cost a fortune, which is exactly what united need to be targeting, in order to get business done quickly rather than these drawn out sagas chasing players who will not join
The problem Woodward reluctant to dilute his hold on transfer dealings, guys playing football manager
Fergie seems on the ball in pointing towards Steve Walsh who can clearly identify potentially talented players that dont cost a fortune, which is exactly what united need to be targeting, in order to get business done quickly rather than these drawn out sagas chasing players who will not join
The problem Woodward reluctant to dilute his hold on transfer dealings, guys playing football manager
No one thought we would lose Herrera realistically or make a fantastic signing like James for 15m. Losing a additional midfielder while addressing a position for that cheap have increased expectations and also need to make more signings.
He is struggling against physical sides and high-pressure, seen nothing of him to be convinced he will be a decisive player next season.
1. James
2. Bissaka
3. Longstaff
4. Matt Ritchie
5. Rondon
100 mil warchest over
2. Bissaka
3. Longstaff
4. Matt Ritchie
5. Rondon
100 mil warchest over
Maybe he LL adjust because he had a good football brain for sure.
This is how to fix the current squad and take us back into firm top four territory:
Pogba wants to leave? Tell Real Madrid they can have him for 125-150 million, no hard feelings.
Crystal Palace want 50 million straight for AWB instead of add-ons? Give it to them so we can move on from RB.
Leicester want 80 million for Maguire? Good player but a bit too much for him, might as well add an extra 20 million to get Koulibaly and then pay 25 million for Alderweireld so we have extra cover at CB.
Then get Longstaff and Fernandes in for a combined 100 million to sort out the midfield.
Finally bid big to get Sancho in for 100 million+ to sort out the right wing. Club could do with a signing like that after the shambles of the last 6 seasons.
Total cost: 375 million. But there are a lot of players we can sell to bring the net spend down significantly. Basically, if we sell Pogba, DDG, Lukaku, Sánchez, Darmian, Young, Rojo and Jones we should get back upwards of 300 million, which would take the net spend into a mere 75 million!
Starting eleven:
Martial Rashford Sancho (James, Greenwood, Lingard)
Fernandes (Mata)
McTominay Longstaff (Fred, Matic)
Shaw Koulibaly Lindelöf AWB (Williams, Alderweireld, Smalling, Dalot)
Henderson (Romero)
^That team right there would get straight into the top four, at the very least. I also don't see why any of those signings would be unrealistic targets.
Loan out the rest of the Academy players. (Some of them, like TFM and Pereira, we could *maybe consider* selling, but only with a buy-back clause).
Pogba wants to leave? Tell Real Madrid they can have him for 125-150 million, no hard feelings.
Crystal Palace want 50 million straight for AWB instead of add-ons? Give it to them so we can move on from RB.
Leicester want 80 million for Maguire? Good player but a bit too much for him, might as well add an extra 20 million to get Koulibaly and then pay 25 million for Alderweireld so we have extra cover at CB.
Then get Longstaff and Fernandes in for a combined 100 million to sort out the midfield.
Finally bid big to get Sancho in for 100 million+ to sort out the right wing. Club could do with a signing like that after the shambles of the last 6 seasons.
Total cost: 375 million. But there are a lot of players we can sell to bring the net spend down significantly. Basically, if we sell Pogba, DDG, Lukaku, Sánchez, Darmian, Young, Rojo and Jones we should get back upwards of 300 million, which would take the net spend into a mere 75 million!
Starting eleven:
Martial Rashford Sancho (James, Greenwood, Lingard)
Fernandes (Mata)
McTominay Longstaff (Fred, Matic)
Shaw Koulibaly Lindelöf AWB (Williams, Alderweireld, Smalling, Dalot)
Henderson (Romero)
^That team right there would get straight into the top four, at the very least. I also don't see why any of those signings would be unrealistic targets.
Loan out the rest of the Academy players. (Some of them, like TFM and Pereira, we could *maybe consider* selling, but only with a buy-back clause).
Starting to get a bit worried...
Another week, those 48 hours have passed numerous times. Still haven't sold any deadwood, renewed any contracts for those we need to keep or bought any players...
Seems we'll have to battle for EL spot next year with Wolves and Everton...
Another week, those 48 hours have passed numerous times. Still haven't sold any deadwood, renewed any contracts for those we need to keep or bought any players...
Seems we'll have to battle for EL spot next year with Wolves and Everton...
Despite the massive suggested outlay, I don't think that squad is much stronger than the squad of players we started last season with. Maybe top 4 worthy because our competition isn't really strengthening, but we'd need a worthy goalkeeper, a much stronger midfield and forwards that will actually go out and score goals consistently before we could look to compete at the top.
It really goes to show just how fecked we are right now...
The problem is that Steve Walsh was crap at Everton and they wasted a ton of money on targets who never panned out (spunking most of their budget one summer on Bolasie, for example, was downright criminal). I agree we have to be better about our scouting and whom we target, but frankly I don't trust Fergie's judgment when it comes to recommending folks to have a big role at the club.
Thats a fair answer, il agree Steve Walsh can be hit and miss, who isnt, but its scary how slow United are to recognise what needs to change, i honestly think Woodwards a huge part of that. There are plenty of talent spotters, directors of football out their we can entice, question is why are we dragging our feet? Power struggle? Reluctance to hand the reins over?
Every player from another club wether were interested in them or not, iether sign new contracts or go to other clubs, the gutter London press, say so and so snubbed Utd, big blow for Utd on this one or that one. Repeat it the next day until different players move or stay.
Utd are the biggest news for them is mostly bollocks made up, sources this or that, they just write anything!!
Utd are the biggest news for them is mostly bollocks made up, sources this or that, they just write anything!!
A bit of a gamble from my side, but Lindeløf aside, I see a greater potential in Bailly than any of the other CDs. And with the presumption that United only have 100m to spend (+ possible sales), there might not be money enough for a CD - at least not one of the likes of Maguire or Koulibaly.
I bet Newcastle would be jealous if we manged to get these players.
5/6 signings is looking like 2/3 at a push, hope some of our academy are ready, because we are in need.
Thank you for the detailed summary!
So I'm confused by the attitude regarding spending. On the one hand, the club is unable to attract the talent they want even though they're offering lucrative contracts. And on the other, they don't want to be rinsed for cash and overspend.
The two don't go together. If we are as awful a team as is being made out, then if course we need to overpay to have the players join.
Rondon? RONDON?
But he’s always Injured.
That midfield is midtable at best. While the defence is brilliant, you certainly need a forward to score goals.
Yeah, and I´m hearing Smalling is planning on being injured quite a bit this season, so Philly then.
This was Solskjaer's quote after the Everton game in April.
" I’ve been speaking to the club, we know that we have to be realistic and have a job to be done there’s no quick fix, it’s not like buy seven players and we’re in the right shape, we have to take step by step and there’ll be signings.”
I always seen this as 3 players most likely coming in. Looks like I was right.
" I’ve been speaking to the club, we know that we have to be realistic and have a job to be done there’s no quick fix, it’s not like buy seven players and we’re in the right shape, we have to take step by step and there’ll be signings.”
I always seen this as 3 players most likely coming in. Looks like I was right.
Let’s pretend it’s 1995 all over again, because we might just be about to promote Greenwood and co. instead of making big signings.
Wait, what are you right about?
Read the last line of the post. It's not hard to figure out if you concentrate.
Ok just wanted to confirm. Because we've signed 1 player. The end of the transfer window could we'll see us sign more than 3.
Point being, you're currently wrong...and that can change too.
I don’t mind with that. Sick of spending massive on average players who aren’t worth the penny and still not making progress and end up being out of CL spot.
We might should just use some of the youth as our regular player, develop them, playing risky with potential might not make it to top 4 but in 3 years when they are ready, that’s when we can start hoping.
I think originally we are aiming for Sancho, a CB (Koulibaly), 1 midfield to replace Herrera & 1 more to replace Mata & a right back (Wan Bissaka).
And since we fail to get CL,Sancho is not interested to join us this summer so we signed James to give Martial, Lingard & Sanchez more competition.
Since Mata just signed a new contract that will rule us out of signing his replacement, probably the reason whyBruno’s rumour has been death in a coffin recently ever since Mata signed a new contract.
That’s now leaving us to a CB, RB & another midfielder to replace Herrera.
Koulibaly is away from our reach (£130m) Maguire is likely to be away from our reach (£80m or £65m & City is competing to sign him), and now we are aiming in Diop which I have a feeling we won’t be able to meet West Ham’s demand.
A RB is likely to be Wan Bissaka.
I think we aimed onRabiot as Herrera’s replacement but ever since Juve made a contact to the player, we started preparing for the backup option Tielemans. Probably the reason why we haven’t sign Herrera’s replacement because we are waiting until Rabiot make his final decision.
The worst part is that, looks like we won’t be signing a new no 6. Likely we will rely on Matic or utilise our 50m that we spent on Fred.
And since we fail to get CL,
Since Mata just signed a new contract that will rule us out of signing his replacement, probably the reason why
That’s now leaving us to a CB, RB & another midfielder to replace Herrera.
A RB is likely to be Wan Bissaka.
I think we aimed on
The worst part is that, looks like we won’t be signing a new no 6. Likely we will rely on Matic or utilise our 50m that we spent on Fred.
Didn't see that one coming
