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I think Pereira will be mainly utilised as an AM rather than a DM. I remember after the 3-2 win over Southampton in March, Solskjaer said that we’ve found the best position for him in an advanced role.


So in the DM position that currently leaves Mctominay and Garner as backups to an aging Matic. I’d rather we signed someone with more appearances under their belt than Longstaff.
 

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I think Pereira will be mainly utilised as an AM rather than a DM. I remember after the 3-2 win over Southampton in March, Solskjaer said that we’ve found the best position for him in an advanced role.


So in the DM position that currently leaves Mctominay and Garner as backups to an aging Matic. I’d rather we signed someone with more appearances under their belt than Longstaff.
So Mark Noble it is then?
If reports are to be believed Ole is pretty much tied to a budget and unless we move on Pogba, Lukaku etc he's got a lot of work to do with very little funds. We buy a player with more experience, then we'll be done for summer spending, as we wont get a quality experienced midfielder for 25 million. We need at least another centre half and a midfielder, if reports are correct that we've sorted the right back position.
 

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Be up for this as long as we get someone like Bruno as well. Our midfield would be bereft of real creativity if Pogba drops his levels.
 

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Be up for this as long as we get someone like Bruno as well. Our midfield would be bereft of real creativity if Pogba drops his levels.
This is my opinion also. Longstaff on his own would be very underwhelming for me and show a real lack of ambition.
 

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So Mark Noble it is then?
If reports are to be believed Ole is pretty much tied to a budget and unless we move on Pogba, Lukaku etc he's got a lot of work to do with very little funds. We buy a player with more experience, then we'll be done for summer spending, as we wont get a quality experienced midfielder for 25 million. We need at least another centre half and a midfielder, if reports are correct that we've sorted the right back position.
Yes, exactly. Mark Noble is the answer. There isn't any other defensive midfielder out there with 100+ first team appearances who we could feasibly sign at a reasonable price.
 

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Julian Weigl is the answer. For 30mio € he would be a no brainer. Could also play as CB as he did this season at Dortmund (for sure not his preffered position).
 

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This feels like a Carrick recommendation, he plays in the same role and looks like a younger Carrick. This is the type of player we need, someone who can break up play, then move the ball forward. Similar build to Carrick also.

I'd happily spend the money for players like this, players who you know will run and put the effort in, but also have the potential to grow with the team.
 

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Considering Matic is the only specialist DM we have and he's finished I'll happily welcome this lad, mostly cause his ability on the ball reminds me of Carrick a lot
 

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This looks like our next signing.
 

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Hope he can keep fit. Can be a brilliant dogged player for us.
 

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Like I said in the Twitter thread a midfield of Longstaff + McTominay + a do it when I can be arsed Pogba doesn't look like one that will strike fear into the opposition
 

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I have nothing against buying promising kids but I can't believe we're considering replacing two seasoned internationals with a kid whose been injured for a big chunk of this season and had barely ever played in the EPL. James and him are huge huge risks from an inexperienced manager who has to reach top 4 with a squad which is clearly not good enough. I fear that Ole is doing the same mistakes he did at Cardiff were he stocked the team with promising players who might have done well in long term but weren't ready for the job in short term.
 

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I have nothing against buying promising kids but I can't believe we're considering replacing two seasoned internationals with a kid whose been injured for a big chunk of this season and had barely ever played in the EPL. James and him are huge huge risks from an inexperienced manager who has to reach top 4 with a squad which is clearly not good enough. I fear that Ole is doing the same mistakes he did at Cardiff were he stocked the team with promising players who might have done well in long term but weren't ready for the job in short term.
What's your view on Tielemans?
 

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Hopefully our next one but not our only midfield signing, we need more quality regardless of the Pogba situation.
 

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YouTube isn't the best way to judge but given he only played 9 PL Matches last season, that's an impressive highlight reel for a midfielder. Looks a good talent.
 

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With Rafa leaving this seems a great time to try and get him.
 

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What's your view on Tielemans?
I haven't followed him enough to come out with a definitive answer but he's also a risk, not at par with Longstaff though but he's still a risk. You see, I wouldn't mind having these sort of players if we had Keane/Carrick and Scholes in midfield. They would cover for them and tutor them on the pitch. Yet we don't have that. Pogba plays like a very talented 18 year old, Matic is in steady decline and Fred plays like as if you threw a random supporter on the pitch. Is this the place and the time to buy work in progress midfielders?

Of course things change if we go for 2 midfielders like Partey and Longstaff or Tonali.
 

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What is Ole's record with developing youngsters at Molde? Does the manager actually develop or coach players or is it someone else's job. The problem I see is we have not improved any player at United since De Gea and that was more down to him than anyone else.
The other issue is we are going for only English players which is fine if they are top quality. James and Longstaff do not seem to be it. If these signings are in addition to let's say Rabiot and Pepe/Sancho then it's great but it seems they are instead of.
 

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I have nothing against buying promising kids but I can't believe we're considering replacing two seasoned internationals with a kid whose been injured for a big chunk of this season and had barely ever played in the EPL. James and him are huge huge risks from an inexperienced manager who has to reach top 4 with a squad which is clearly not good enough. I fear that Ole is doing the same mistakes he did at Cardiff were he stocked the team with promising players who might have done well in long term but weren't ready for the job in short term.
Who are the two seasoned internationals we'd be replacing?
 

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I’m all for this policy of younger, hungry players with lots to prove and a desire to showcase their talent and how good they are or could be like Wan-Bissaka, James and Longstaff. That said we DO NEED some experience in there too and it’s definitely needed at centre back and central midfield.

If we sign Longstaff we still need an experienced centre back, a playmaker or attacking midfielder (Bruno Fernandes, Eriksen although I’d be happy with Maddison) and a right sided forward although I get the feeling we extended Mata’s contract as we’re not getting one this summer unless we end up signing Bale on loan on deadline day which I could see happening with how quiet everything has gone on Bale.
 

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Who are the two seasoned internationals we'd be replacing?
Herrera and Fellaini i assume

I have nothing against buying promising kids but I can't believe we're considering replacing two seasoned internationals with a kid whose been injured for a big chunk of this season and had barely ever played in the EPL. James and him are huge huge risks from an inexperienced manager who has to reach top 4 with a squad which is clearly not good enough. I fear that Ole is doing the same mistakes he did at Cardiff were he stocked the team with promising players who might have done well in long term but weren't ready for the job in short term.
I agree. Alarms should ring IMO, it is a big risk. As you said, easing them in into a good setup would be fine, but they will have to perform more or less from the go. The pressure will be huge on them from the start
 

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Who are the two seasoned internationals we'd be replacing?
Herrera and Fellaini. However that's not the real issue either. As said, I wouldn't have mind these sort of signings if we had Keane/Carrick + Scholes in midfield. You'll know that they would protect them, cover for them etc. But we don't have that. Pogba is immature, Fred is out of place and Matic is in decline.
 

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It's the kind of signing you'd make if you were coming out off a successful season rather than one of the worst ones in the last 30 years, but I guess we decided next season is a bit of a write off.
 

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YouTube isn't the best way to judge but given he only played 9 PL Matches last season, that's an impressive highlight reel for a midfielder. Looks a good talent.
 

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Has anyone seen 90 mins plus of this guy?
Is he more of a number 6 or a number 8?

Hope he won't be our only addition to midfield this summer
Saw him against Chelsea. Was the best player on the park, and by all accounts was instrumental in Newcastle's win against City as well.
 

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This guy is a Herrera replacement rather than a future Matic replacement I think. He presses a lot and has a lot of energy, reminds me a bit of Henderson at Liverpool (which is a good thing).
 

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Herrera and Fellaini i assume



I agree. Alarms should ring IMO, it is a big risk. As you said, easing them in into a good setup would be fine, but they will have to perform more or less from the go. The pressure will be huge on them from the start
If we get lets say someone like Partey and Longstaff then I wouldn't really complain. Matic and Partey would provide experience and steel in midfield, Pogba will play as he always does (ie pretty much for himself) and Longstaff, Fred + Mctominay will be somewhere in the middle of all that. However if Longstaff is the only deep lying midfielder we're getting then that is risky, very risky
 

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I'm down with this for £25m. He looked good when he came on the scene for Newcastle and he's another one who's got a hammer of a right foot on him.
 

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Longstaff like James are very good signings but only in the right conditions.


If we buy Longstaff and also get Bruno and a starting CB then great business. If Longstaff is the only cm addition then it's poor.

If at the end of the window we came out with James AWB Longstaff Bruno and a CB then we would have done good.


Add a striker to that if Lukaku goes of course.
 

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Longstaff like James are very good signings but only in the right conditions.


If we buy Longstaff and also get Bruno and a starting CB then great business. If Longstaff is the only cm addition then it's poor.

If at the end of the window we came out with James AWB Longstaff Bruno and a CB then we would have done good.


Add a striker to that if Lukaku goes of course.
Bruno is a great talent but he's a no 10. longstaff will need experience at his back not at his upfront.
 

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If we get lets say someone like Partey and Longstaff then I wouldn't really complain. Matic and Partey would provide experience and steel in midfield, Pogba will play as he always does (ie pretty much for himself) and Longstaff, Fred + Mctominay will be somewhere in the middle of all that. However if Longstaff is the only deep lying midfielder we're getting then that is risky, very risky
You're talking about risk but Longstaff would come in quite cheap. What's more, Partey is shite. You won't get much added value from him.
 
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