Christian Eriksen | Signs for Inter

[balaks]

Given that he just came off playing in the final, i'd go a step further and assume that he'd want to go to a club that can realistically win the damn thing.

Some might say that a club that got to the final can realistically win the damned thing.

 

[Zed 101]

The only thing worse than dealing with Raiola is dealing with Daniel Levy.... if Eriksen were available to every other club in Europe for £80mil he would demand double from Utd.... Woodward does not have the balls to deal with Levy, he should steer well clear

 

[finneh]

He's 27... He's looking for a final 5 year contract on £250-275k a week. As long as that's not in China he won't be too bothered which club he goes to. He'd be talking about the "Wolves project" if they suddenly had the funds.

If Spurs offered it him tomorrow he'd sign, likewise United or of course any of the other dozen clubs that could afford it.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

He's 27... He's looking for a final 5 year contract on £250-275k a week. As long as that's not in China he won't be too bothered which club he goes to. He'd be talking about the "Wolves project" if they suddenly had the funds.

If Spurs offered it him tomorrow he'd sign, likewise United or of course any of the other dozen clubs that could afford it.

Don't think this is remotely true. He's 27 but hasn't won much in his career, he will have plenty of money regardless .. not all players are motivated solely by how much they can earn.

I think he wants a move to one of the biggest clubs in the world where he can win the PL/CL and have something to look back on, which is totally fair.

 

[Gomes]

Some might say that a club that got to the final can realistically win the damned thing.

Except for no one but a Spurs fan would say that. This circle jerk is quite funny considering how the final was reached and what the league performances looked like.
Nothing to flex about. Well, maybe if a third-place finish would still be the ultimate target. Nobody is seemingly not even trying to contest that position.

Always thought that Eriksen is the best player at Spurs but he was awful in 2019 every time I saw him.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Some might say that a club that got to the final can realistically win the damned thing.

Then why does he want to leave a club where he is settled and comfortable?

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

Except for no one but a Spurs fan would say that. This circle jerk is quite funny considering how the final was reached and what the league performances looked like.
Nothing to flex about. Well, maybe if a third-place finish would still be the ultimate target. Nobody is seemingly not even trying to contest that position.

Always thought that Eriksen is the best player at Spurs but he was awful in 2019 every time I saw him.

?? By beating Dortmund 4-0, beating by far the best team in England over two legs and then doing the same to Ajax who knocked out Juventus and Real Madrid.

Teams can be crap in the league but have a good year in the CL, our attention clearly shifted to Europe at some point. Liverpool last season were similar.

 

[hellohello]

Don't think this is remotely true. He's 27 but hasn't won much in his career, he will have plenty of money regardless .. not all players are motivated solely by how much they can earn.

I think he wants a move to one of the biggest clubs in the world where he can win the PL/CL and have something to look back on, which is totally fair.

Spot on in my view. No doubt money is important, but he doesn't strike me as a pure mercenary.

Then why does he want to leave a club where he is settled and comfortable?

Because despite being capable of winning it, Spurs are not favourites. Maybe he wants to play for one of the Spanish giants after 5 years at Tottenham and have a better chance at winning it?

 

[mu4c_20le]

Because despite being capable of winning it, Spurs are not favourites. Maybe he wants to play for one of the Spanish giants after 5 years at Tottenham and have a better chance at winning it?

Exactly. I never said Spurs are incapable, but I do think that we are in a similar boat tbh, with our star midfielder wanting a new challenge and a better chance at silverware.

 

[hellohello]

Exactly. I never said Spurs are incapable, but I do think that we are in a similar boat tbh, with our star midfielder wanting a new challenge and a better chance at silverware.

Yeah I'd agree with that. The situations are very similar although Eriksen doesn't appear to be as desperate to leave. Based on his comments, it seem to be a situation of him wanting to play for Real Madrid after 5 good years at Tottenham, rather than being desperate to leave. And although I would prefer that he stayed and signed a new deal I don't blame him if he feel he want to try his luck at Real Madrid.

And if Pogba ends up at Real Madrid then who knows, he might just sign a new contract.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

Not sure how similar the situations are tbh.

I think Pogba is simply feeling like the club aren't going anywhere and he's being scapegoated for its failures season after season. He's the one who gets all the stick, gets criticised to shit by the fans, and it's still a pretty chaotic environment to play in with nobody really knowing if Ole will turn around United after the poor end of the season form. The real question with Pogba is why would he stay? He gets more hate/criticism than any player I can think of in the league. Obviously the fact he wants to win the major trophies is a factor, but I don't think it's the major one at play. That and then there's the question of how much meddling Raiola does so he can pocket some of any transfer fee.

 

[GlastonSpur]

Exactly. I never said Spurs are incapable, but I do think that we are in a similar boat tbh, with our star midfielder wanting a new challenge and a better chance at silverware.

Not really in the same boat, because Eriksen, unlike Pogba, has said he'd be OK with staying if a move to RM (or similar) does not materialise

 

[finneh]

Don't think this is remotely true. He's 27 but hasn't won much in his career, he will have plenty of money regardless .. not all players are motivated solely by how much they can earn.

I think he wants a move to one of the biggest clubs in the world where he can win the PL/CL and have something to look back on, which is totally fair.

I disagree. I can't think of a single player that isn't motivated 99% either by short term money (salary offered for next contract), or long term money (ie less money short term but a platform to be paid a much greater amount in the future).

Fans like to big up stadiums, fans, history, weather, city and even trophies... But generally these only come into play if you have 2-3 identical offers.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

I disagree. I can't think of a single player that isn't motivated 99% either by short term money (salary offered for next contract), or long term money (ie less money short term but a platform to be paid a much greater amount in the future).

Fans like to big up stadiums, fans, history, weather, city and even trophies... But generally these only come into play if you have 2-3 identical offers.

Different opinions I guess. I really don't think human beings in general are so one dimensional that they'll only ever go for money. I believe loads of factors go in to why a player might want his dream move, money obviously being one of the most important ones but others like location, prestige, the chance at trophies being others. Why would a professional footballer who loves the game not want to go and play for Real Madrid and lift the biggest trophies? These guys are fans of the game as well and we've seen plenty of times the emotion that they display on certain occasions.

I also do think that you're too easily dismissing factors like weather/city .. especially when footballers have wives who have a say in things! People want to be able to spend their money in nice to live places, doesn't apply to every individual and I'd say a majority of pro's aren't that arsed about a bit of cold weather, but some will have their preferences for sure. I think wanting a new big contract will be a big consideration for Eriksen, but I don't think that's mainly what he's looking for.

 

[BananaIceman]

Not sure how similar the situations are tbh.

I think Pogba is simply feeling like the club aren't going anywhere and he's being scapegoated for its failures season after season. He's the one who gets all the stick, gets criticised to shit by the fans, and it's still a pretty chaotic environment to play in with nobody really knowing if Ole will turn around United after the poor end of the season form. The real question with Pogba is why would he stay? He gets more hate/criticism than any player I can think of in the league. Obviously the fact he wants to win the major trophies is a factor, but I don't think it's the major one at play. That and then there's the question of how much meddling Raiola does so he can pocket some of any transfer fee.

That is BS. Sure Pogba is and was criticized by our fans but in no way was he the public enemy number one as you suggest prior to this act to engineer a move. Everyone knows that he is the top 1 or 2 player on the team. Most United fans wanted the deadwood like Rojo and Young as well as Sanchez gone but not Pogba til he and his agent came up with this. They are purely driven by money and you are just falling for their narrative.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

That is BS. Sure Pogba is and was criticized by our fans but in no way was he the public enemy number one as you suggest prior to this act to engineer a move. Everyone knows that he is the top 1 or 2 player on the team. Most United fans wanted the deadwood like Rojo and Young gone but not Pogba til he and his agent came up with this. They are purely driven by money and you are just falling for their narrative.

That's not the way I've seen it, at all. Pogba gets a hell of a lot of attention from both the media and United fans for his performances, pretty much all the focus is on him. I've pretty much always seen it this way after his big money move, there always seems to be an insane amount of expectations on his shoulders and that can turn toxic when he can't live up to that.

I think he probably just wants to escape that and go to a club where the expectations are there, but he's not expected to carry the club on his shoulders. I'm not saying he's been faultless in any of this at all (his agent is Raiola ffs) but I can also understand why he might feel unhappy at the club. I haven't fallen in to a narrative at all and have held this opinion since before he started publicly asking for his move, there's always been way too many shots aimed at Pogba imo.

 

[BananaIceman]

That's not the way I've seen it, at all. Pogba gets a hell of a lot of attention from both the media and United fans for his performances, pretty much all the focus is on him. I've pretty much always seen it this way after his big money move, there always seems to be an insane amount of expectations on his shoulders and that can turn toxic when he can't live up to that.

I think he probably just wants to escape that and go to a club where the expectations are there, but he's not expected to carry the club on his shoulders. I'm not saying he's been faultless in any of this at all (his agent is Raiola ffs) but I can also understand why he might feel unhappy at the club. I haven't fallen in to a narrative at all and have held this opinion since before he started publicly asking for his move, there's always been way too many shots aimed at Pogba imo.

You are displaying perception bias. Perhaps you are a victim of what you say. That he "gets a hell of a lot of attention from both the media and United fans for his performances" and that's why you feel and perceive things as though he is the most criticized when in fact, he really wasn't. Those two aren't the same. Attention does not equal criticism. If you've watched United this year, he was definitely not the most criticized for his performances. I would say Sanchez and Young would be the top two.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

You are displaying perception bias. Perhaps you are a victim of what you say. That he "gets a hell of a lot of attention from both the media and United fans for his performances" and that's why you feel and perceive things as though he is the most criticized when in fact, he really wasn't. Those two aren't the same. Attention does not equal criticism. If you've watched United this year, he was definitely not the most criticized for his performances. I would say Sanchez and Young would be the top two.

I'm not displaying shit.

In line with his actual performances, I think he gets far more criticism than he's due. Sanchez/Young were genuinely garbage the majority of the time, Pogba was your most productive player in most attacking areas yet still gets a shit ton of criticism from the media and fans alike, because he's the star player and was a record signing.

Honestly I would say he was one of the most criticised United players for his performances last season, at least within the top 5. Despite being in the PL TOTY and having some of the best stats around for any attacking midfielder.

 

[BananaIceman]

I'm not displaying shit.

In line with his actual performances, I think he gets far more criticism than he's due. Sanchez/Young were genuinely garbage the majority of the time, Pogba was your most productive player in most attacking areas yet still gets a shit ton of criticism from the media and fans alike, because he's the star player and was a record signing.

Honestly I would say he was one of the most criticised United players for his performances last season, at least within the top 5. Despite being in the PL TOTY and having some of the best stats around for any attacking midfielder.

If you aren't displaying shit, you certainly like to spout the same shit over and over.
You say he was one of the most productive players which I would agree with but say that most United supporters ignore this and still give him shit. Narcissistic much? I would say that if you can see it, anyone can and I would further argue that most United fans have the decency to not criticize Pogba unfairly especially when other players are more deserving of criticism.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

If you aren't displaying shit, you certainly like to spout the same shit over and over.
You say he was one of the most productive players which I would agree with but say that most United supporters ignore this and still give him shit. Narcissistic much? I would say that if you can see it, anyone can and I would further argue that most United fans have the decency to not criticize Pogba unfairly especially when other players are more deserving of criticism.

Such a load of shit that I can't help but think you're genuinely just blind to the criticism he gets or just deciding to ignore it. No point continuing this and it's derailing the thread, if you honestly can't see that Pogba is the target of more criticism than your average player then there's nothing more to be said. If I see it anyone can? Most people know Pogba gets a hell of a lot of criticism, even a lot of his detractors would probably admit that he's easily one of the most criticised players in the league.

Just go look back at the Pogba/matchday threads on this very forum, or failing that go look at all the media scrutiny he's received and the insane amount of articles written about him. The man has been under the microscope pretty much since day one of his United career.

 

[3KDré]

I'm not displaying shit.

In line with his actual performances, I think he gets far more criticism than he's due. Sanchez/Young were genuinely garbage the majority of the time, Pogba was your most productive player in most attacking areas yet still gets a shit ton of criticism from the media and fans alike, because he's the star player and was a record signing.

Honestly I would say he was one of the most criticised United players for his performances last season, at least within the top 5. Despite being in the PL TOTY and having some of the best stats around for any attacking midfielder.

Sad times when a Spurs fan speaks more sense than half of our own.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

Sad times when a Spurs fan speaks more sense than half of our own.

Nah, apparently it's just perception bias, or some other babble.

Anybody who can't see the amount of shit Pogba gets has to have some sort of agenda, imo. It's so blatantly obvious from an outside, neutral perspective.

And again that's not saying I think he's entirely innocent or that all of the criticism is undeserved, it's just perfectly clear that other players escape the same criticism. Pogba can get 2 brilliant assists in a game yet it'll be that one time he doesn't track a runner that gets focused on by some people.

But yeah anyway, thread is off track. But the point is that Eriksen's situation is different because I don't think he's unhappy at the club or unhappy with how he's treated (gets away with a lot of quiet performances actually, the kind Pogba gets ruined for, and had a generally average season) but wants to potentially leave so he can make that step up in his career.

 

[BananaIceman]

Such a load of shit that I can't help but think you're genuinely just blind to the criticism he gets or just deciding to ignore it. No point continuing this and it's derailing the thread, if you honestly can't see that Pogba is the target of more criticism than your average player then there's nothing more to be said. If I see it anyone can? Most people know Pogba gets a hell of a lot of criticism, even a lot of his detractors would probably admit that he's easily one of the most criticised players in the league.

Just go look back at the Pogba/matchday threads on this very forum, or failing that go look at all the media scrutiny he's received and the insane amount of articles written about him. The man has been under the microscope pretty much since day one of his United career.

Don't put words in my mouth. When did I say he doesn't or shouldn't get criticized? The argument was him being the scapegoat which is your make believe, or, BS.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

Don't put words in my mouth. When did I say he doesn't or shouldn't get criticized? The argument was him being the scapegoat which is your make believe.

Yep, entirely a figment of my own imagination.

Done here. It's not the Pogba thread, the point was that it's not the same situation. You disagree, that's fine .. but I'm not going to have a long, pointless debate about whether or not Pogba gets overly-criticised. I imagine that's been done to death a million times.

 

[ivaldo]

Not really in the same boat, because Eriksen, unlike Pogba, has said he'd be OK with staying if a move to RM (or similar) does not materialise

Well, he is. You think Pogba will join someone who isn’t RM or similar?

 

[BananaIceman]

Yep, entirely a figment of my own imagination.

Done here. It's not the Pogba thread, the point was that it's not the same situation. You disagree, that's fine .. but I'm not going to have a long, pointless debate about whether or not Pogba gets overly-criticised. I imagine that's been done to death a million times.

I agree, shouldn't have entertained your BS in the first place.

 

[M4nu4Life]

If he is available for 80 million , you sign him regardless if Pogba stays or leaves.

Great player.

 

[GlastonSpur]

Well, he is. You think Pogba will join someone who isn’t RM or similar?

The point is that Eriksen isn't desperate to leave, unlike Pogba, and has said he'd be OK with staying (again unlike Pogba) if he doesn't get an offer from RM or similar.

If Eriksen stays he'll play to his best ability. If Pogba is forced to stay, you'll have a sulking, disruptive prima donna on your hands.

So no, the two players are clearly not in the same boat.

 

[Holocene]

Nah, apparently it's just perception bias, or some other babble.

Anybody who can't see the amount of shit Pogba gets has to have some sort of agenda, imo. It's so blatantly obvious from an outside, neutral perspective.

And again that's not saying I think he's entirely innocent or that all of the criticism is undeserved, it's just perfectly clear that other players escape the same criticism. Pogba can get 2 brilliant assists in a game yet it'll be that one time he doesn't track a runner that gets focused on by some people.

But yeah anyway, thread is off track. But the point is that Eriksen's situation is different because I don't think he's unhappy at the club or unhappy with how he's treated (gets away with a lot of quiet performances actually, the kind Pogba gets ruined for, and had a generally average season) but wants to potentially leave so he can make that step up in his career.

Top post. Seriously.

It's interesting you mention agenda. There's certain posters on here that have a genuine hatred for Pogba. It goes way past criticism. There's also an arrogance about it, like they're the only ones that can see the truth. And as soon as someone defends him, you're labelled as the "Pogba ****" or a fanboy. The irony. I wonder what excuses they'll make when he's succeeding in Madrid.

I have very little faith that Pogba will be replaced with genuine quality. I also wonder who the scapegoat will be next season once he's gone.

 

[ivaldo]

The point is that Eriksen isn't desperate to leave, unlike Pogba, and has said he'd be OK with staying (again unlike Pogba) if he doesn't get an offer from RM or similar.

If Eriksen stays he'll play to his best ability. If Pogba is forced to stay, you'll have a sulking, disruptive prima donna on your hands.

So no, the two players are clearly not in the same boat.

He might be more taciturn about it than Pogba but the motives are identical. Both have expressed a desire to leave, both will only leave for the right club. Unlike Eriksen, Pogba hadn't even come out and explicitly stated it himself. You're desperate to beleive Eriksen's motives are far more honourable than Pogbas, but you're delusional if you think he'll be playing unperturbed if Spurs refuse to sell him to Madrid.

 

[Dec9003]

I do agree that Pogba gets a lot of stick, but which United player doesn't?

 

[GlastonSpur]

He might be more taciturn about it than Pogba but the motives are identical. Both have expressed a desire to leave, both will only leave for the right club. Unlike Eriksen, Pogba hadn't even come out and explicitly stated it himself. You're desperate to beleive Eriksen's motives are far more honourable than Pogbas, but you're delusional if you think he'll be playing unperturbed if Spurs refuse to sell him to Madrid.

Spurs won't refuse to sell him to RM, provided they want him and offer a decent sum. The difference is that he is open to staying at Spurs, unlike Pogba at United:

"It depends on Daniel Levy. And another club has to come [in for him]. Or I have to sit down at the table and negotiate a new contract. … There are not many points that Tottenham cannot meet. If I have to go, then hopefully it will be a step up."

So, yes, if he stays then I fully believe he'll give his best for Spurs.

 

[carvajal]

Spurs won't refuse to sell him to RM, provided they want him and offer a decent sum. The difference is that he is open to staying at Spurs, unlike Pogba at United:

"It depends on Daniel Levy. And another club has to come [in for him]. Or I have to sit down at the table and negotiate a new contract. … There are not many points that Tottenham cannot meet. If I have to go, then hopefully it will be a step up."

So, yes, if he stays then I fully believe he'll give his best for Spurs.

There may also be teams of the first rank, Juve, Bayern,etc that convince him to wait a year without renewing in exchange for a good bonus

 

[Grylte]

Hardest banen spell

 

[ivaldo]

Spurs won't refuse to sell him to RM, provided they want him and offer a decent sum. The difference is that he is open to staying at Spurs, unlike Pogba at United:

"It depends on Daniel Levy. And another club has to come [in for him]. Or I have to sit down at the table and negotiate a new contract. … There are not many points that Tottenham cannot meet. If I have to go, then hopefully it will be a step up."

So, yes, if he stays then I fully believe he'll give his best for Spurs.

Precisely. Someone offers an amount less than what Spurs want for him, and let's face it, with Levy's crazy valuations that's entirely possible, then you think Eriksen will just continue to play at the best of his abilities. As I've said, he's far more diplomatic about this, but it's all the same.

Now show me the quote where Pogba himself openly declares he wants to leave.

 

[The Boogeyman]

Precisely. Someone offers an amount less than what Spurs want for him, and let's face it, with Levy's crazy valuations that's entirely possible, then you think Eriksen will just continue to play at the best of his abilities. As I've said, he's far more diplomatic about this, but it's all the same.

Now show me the quote where Pogba himself openly declares he wants to leave.

Yeah, I would not conflate Eriksen's diplomatic statements with a sincere desire to stay. He might eventually resign, but Pogba might also buckle down and have a decent year at United if he isn't sold this summer.

 

[AgentP]

So we can expect him to sign for Juventus for free next season.

 

[balaks]

Then why does he want to leave a club where he is settled and comfortable?

Because Madrid are the biggest club in the world and it's his dream move.

 

[hellohello]

There may also be teams of the first rank, Juve, Bayern,etc that convince him to wait a year without renewing in exchange for a good bonus

This is true, but it's a shit move and disrespectful to the club and fans who have treated him well for 5 years. And although he might run down his contract I would expect him to sign a new deal with a reasonable release clause and a generous sign on fee from us instead of leaving on a free the season after.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

If you aren't displaying shit, you certainly like to spout the same shit over and over.
You say he was one of the most productive players which I would agree with but say that most United supporters ignore this and still give him shit. Narcissistic much? I would say that if you can see it, anyone can and I would further argue that most United fans have the decency to not criticize Pogba unfairly especially when other players are more deserving of criticism.

There are a hell of a lot of United fans who simply was Pogba gone, not because of his performances but how he is disrespecting the club and also because of who his agent is.

As for Eriksen moving for money? I don’t really see it, especially as it’s RM he wasn’t to move too, he won’t get that much more there than we would be offering him IMO. Probably £180-£200k a week, he wants a move for prestige and trophies, the reason he hasn’t moved is because RM, and more importantly ZZ want Pogba.