Good but less known players from the 90s / early 2000s?

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Surprised noone has mentioned Marian Pahars yet.

I remember him nut megging Jaap Stam to score a wonder goal at OT in that 3-3 draw that made Taibi famous for all the wrong reasons!
 

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To be fair, Figo was a perennial Golden Ball candidate, and Rui Costa might have been one too if he hadn't spent the bulk of his prime years at Fiorentina. As good as Couto was, their level he was not IMO.
Well I think I watched more games from those 3 than you with all the respect and Fernando Couto was a beast for Porto, and I am a Sporting supporter. Reason why Bobby Robson signed him for Barcelona because he worked with him at Porto before the Bosman ruling.

Not to mention his leadership role for the NT, where he was the true leader on the pitch. Like I said, he doesn’t get the credit he deserved because he wasn’t a artist like the other 2, and his best football was between 92/97.

Let’s agree to disagree here.
 

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To be fair, Figo was a perennial Golden Ball candidate, and Rui Costa might have been one too if he hadn't spent the bulk of his prime years at Fiorentina. As good as Couto was, their level he was not IMO.
Yeah but Serie A back then was ridiculous when it came to players. You had 3-4 sugar daddies trying to outdo each other.
And Fiorentina wasn't just any team back then- It was one of the 7 Sisters
https://myoutlookonfootball.wordpre...-of-serie-a-the-seven-sisters/comment-page-1/
I dont know who it was but i remembe reading about a really good player who left La Liga for a mid-table serie a team so that he could just play in Serie A
 

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Juninho, Nick Barmby, Emerson and Fabrizio Ravanelli from Robsons Middlesbrough team.
 

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@De Portago with that said I wasn’t saying he was better than the 2, but I can dispute with anyone here regarding Couto vs Rui Costa at their best who played at a higher level. Don’t think the difference is that big.
 

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Yeah but Serie A back then was ridiculous when it came to players. You had 3-4 sugar daddies trying to outdo each other.
And Fiorentina wasn't just any team back then- It was one of the 7 Sisters
https://myoutlookonfootball.wordpre...-of-serie-a-the-seven-sisters/comment-page-1/
I dont know who it was but i remembe reading about a really good player who left La Liga for a mid-table serie a team so that he could just play in Serie A
It was great undoubtedly, and Fiorentina certainly wasn't a minnow of course. They were in the title race in 1998/99 if I recall correctly, but I think he should have moved in 2000 when Batistuta left. He was brilliant in 2000/01 and carried them more often than not but that Fiorentina side wasn't near good enough. If there's anything Rui Costa lacks reputation wise I'd say it is memorable European games and he'd have certainly had more of them at Milan for example. As far as I'm concerned regarding his performances in Serie A only during say 1998-2002 Rui Costa was very close to Zidane, and yet he's been mostly forgotten unfortunately.
 

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Russia(bolstered by some Ukrainians who for various reasons opted to play for them) had a crop of very good midfielders back then, that were mainly the product of ussr youth development system before the youth production line had dried up later. I'm guessing most would be obscure now (and a lot even then unless you were a hardcore fan of la liga or international football) considering the clubs other than the occasional semi-final, quarter-final and second group stage run weren't strong enough overall to do much consistently and the NT was an underachieving, mostly poorly managed mess that often had enough drama and cliques in the squad to make the Dutch or Argentines look thoroughly unified. Some players are worth checking out as individuals though.

Ilya Tsymbalar - left-wing and attacking midfielder for Spartak. Very talented Ukrainian player with glass knees, his peak was short 93-96, only had about one season worth of football after that where he wasn't mostly injured. He was an excellent passer with an effortless, smooth playing style that when fit enough always played very well in the big european and NT games. Had offers from Lazio and Inter Milan after Euro 96 but the injuries ruined that.

Aleksander Mostovoi - centre and attacking midfield for Celta Vigo from mid-90s. One of the biggest young talents of last years of ussr league. A great technician and orchestrator, but with a very difficult character(basically a huge arsehole) he wasted most of the first half of his career abroad then turned things around at Celta where he really elevated a club close to relegation when he arrived. Played at a world class level for years there, but must be getting forgotten about nowadays if fans are voting the significantly less talented Iago Aspas a better player for the club. Liked to be the big fish in small pond though and turned down a move to Juventus after putting them out of the uefa cup. Rarely seemed to care about the NT, only 50 caps in 10-12 years of being favoured.

Valery Karpin - right-wing and centre midfield for Valencia, Celta and Sociedad. Unlike a number of the more talented teammates from that era that often had issues with professionalism, he was a stamina laden gym-rat that was extremely competitive in a Nedved'esque all action way, and also brought an excellent technique. I never liked the guy as he was also a huge arsehole and windup merchant on the pitch, but he has to be one of the most underrated, rarely mentioned excellent players of that era. I thought only Figo was consistently better than him in la liga from the wide mid positions, some of the younger up and coming Spanish wingers like Vicente and Joaquin got more hype and were faster, flashier dribblers, but they didn't have his box to box qualities, passing/crossing technique or vision. His decision to move on after one season at Valencia and team up with his former spartak and NT teammate at Celta was a poor choice for his own career in retrospect. He did have a late surprising offer from rival Deportivo, but their fans hated him so much i believe they staged a protest to get it cancelled:lol:

Egor Titov - centre and attacking midfield for Spartak. He was the big hyped player in the Russian league from 97-03, overhyped really as he was quickly compared with Netto and Voronin and after good European and NT performances the Zidane comparisons started from spartak biased media sources( being a tall, elegant attacking mid this was probably inevitable from the more hype susceptible late 90s hacks). Overhyping aside, he did seem to have the goods to be an excellent player at a higher level...impeccable two-footed technique, flair, great eye for a pass, high workrate, very strong and had a number of high quality performances against really good midfields like Ajax, Real with Seedorf and Redondo, Leverkusen, 4-1 vs Arsenal, French NT, Inter Milan and others. However he didn't follow them up with a move abroad despite offers from Bayern and Atletico, opting to stay loyal to a rapidly declining Spartak and then largely killed his career by failing a doping test before Euro 2004. Likely hated in Wales until they got their revenge at the last Euro.

Dmitriy Alenichev - Centre midfield for Spartak, Roma and Porto. A fine supporting playmaker with very good passing and dribbling, though he was physically weak midget and mainly suited to a multiple-playmaker, short passing focused way of play, which was Spartak's long held traditional style. He predictably failed at Capello's Roma, not having the defensive qualities for fabio's workhorse midfield setup at all, then did well at Porto where he eventually won everything with Mourinho. Always very good with the NT.

Andrey Tikhonov - Right and Left wing for Spartak. Probably the most well loved player across club boundaries in Russian football past few decades, though wasn't considered by many to be the individual talent his teammates Tsymbalar and Titov were, i still found him to be a very good player with a smart, effective style and fine skills that was wasted playing in the Russian league. He was far too loyal to Spartak though, but ended up stabbed in the back for it when increasingly erratic, alcohol fuelled manager Oleg Romantsev started a feud with him and kicked him out of the club in 2000 despite having another 2 or 3 seasons in him. Never played much for the NT due to Karpin\Kanchelskis on the right and Tsymbalar on the left, then getting shafted by Romantsev who was well into the process of running Spartak and any last chance that generation had at a solid international level showing into the ground.

Dmitriy Loskov - Centre and attacking midfield for Lokomotiv Moscow. Two-footed passing virtuoso that while never fast, had a great vision of the field and reliable big game player, loads of goals and free kicks. Also shafted by Romantsev, fair enough if he favoured Mostovoi and Titov over him, it was arguable but he should have been in NT squads far earlier than he did. Has a good argument for being the greatest midfielder in the league history so far, should be no lower than top 3 imo. Made "fifth wheel" Lokomotiv the main challenger to Spartak and eventually broke their dominance with their first ever league titles and orchestrated various fine performances in Europe, especially against Real Madrid and Inter. I remember 2003/04 R16 vs Monaco when Morientes got him sent off 20 minutes into the 2nd leg with Loko 2-1 up and looking good. That turned the momentum around and they got an away goals win...making the quarter final would have been a fantastic achievement for a club of Loko's size. Watching him in the russian league in his prime was like watching Hagi or Alex de Souza in Turkey, you knew they should be challenging themselves at a higher level, though i don't think Loskov ever had any interest to leave. He was very loyal to Loko and a very laid back guy lacking in ambition.
 

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It was great undoubtedly, and Fiorentina certainly wasn't a minnow of course. They were in the title race in 1998/99 if I recall correctly, but I think he should have moved in 2000 when Batistuta left. He was brilliant in 2000/01 and carried them more often than not but that Fiorentina side wasn't near good enough. If there's anything Rui Costa lacks reputation wise I'd say it is memorable European games and he'd have certainly had more of them at Milan for example. As far as I'm concerned regarding his performances in Serie A only during say 1998-2002 Rui Costa was very close to Zidane, and yet he's been mostly forgotten unfortunately.
The problem with Rui Costa at European level was that his best level was at Fiorentina, if I am not wrong while he played there quarter finals of the CWC was the best he achieved, while the European trophies won at Milan he was far from being one of the main protagonists. Even before going to Fiorentina he had great games against Leverkusen and Parma in the CWC semifinals for Benfica.
 

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Russia(bolstered by some Ukrainians who for various reasons opted to play for them) had a crop of very good midfielders back then, that were mainly the product of ussr youth development system before the youth production line had dried up later. I'm guessing most would be obscure now (and a lot even then unless you were a hardcore fan of la liga or international football) considering the clubs other than the occasional semi-final, quarter-final and second group stage run weren't strong enough overall to do much consistently and the NT was an underachieving, mostly poorly managed mess that often had enough drama and cliques in the squad to make the Dutch or Argentines look thoroughly unified. Some players are worth checking out as individuals though.

Ilya Tsymbalar - left-wing and attacking midfielder for Spartak. Very talented Ukrainian player with glass knees, his peak was short 93-96, only had about one season worth of football after that where he wasn't mostly injured. He was an excellent passer with an effortless, smooth playing style that when fit enough always played very well in the big european and NT games. Had offers from Lazio and Inter Milan after Euro 96 but the injuries ruined that.

Aleksander Mostovoi - centre and attacking midfield for Celta Vigo from mid-90s. One of the biggest young talents of last years of ussr league. A great technician and orchestrator, but with a very difficult character(basically a huge arsehole) he wasted most of the first half of his career abroad then turned things around at Celta where he really elevated a club close to relegation when he arrived. Played at a world class level for years there, but must be getting forgotten about nowadays if fans are voting the significantly less talented Iago Aspas a better player for the club. Liked to be the big fish in small pond though and turned down a move to Juventus after putting them out of the uefa cup. Rarely seemed to care about the NT, only 50 caps in 10-12 years of being favoured.

Valery Karpin - right-wing and centre midfield for Valencia, Celta and Sociedad. Unlike a number of the more talented teammates from that era that often had issues with professionalism, he was a stamina laden gym-rat that was extremely competitive in a Nedved'esque all action way, and also brought an excellent technique. I never liked the guy as he was also a huge arsehole and windup merchant on the pitch, but he has to be one of the most underrated, rarely mentioned excellent players of that era. I thought only Figo was consistently better than him in la liga from the wide mid positions, some of the younger up and coming Spanish wingers like Vicente and Joaquin got more hype and were faster, flashier dribblers, but they didn't have his box to box qualities, passing/crossing technique or vision. His decision to move on after one season at Valencia and team up with his former spartak and NT teammate at Celta was a poor choice for his own career in retrospect. He did have a late surprising offer from rival Deportivo, but their fans hated him so much i believe they staged a protest to get it cancelled:lol:

Egor Titov - centre and attacking midfield for Spartak. He was the big hyped player in the Russian league from 97-03, overhyped really as he was quickly compared with Netto and Voronin and after good European and NT performances the Zidane comparisons started from spartak biased media sources( being a tall, elegant attacking mid this was probably inevitable from the more hype susceptible late 90s hacks). Overhyping aside, he did seem to have the goods to be an excellent player at a higher level...impeccable two-footed technique, flair, great eye for a pass, high workrate, very strong and had a number of high quality performances against really good midfields like Ajax, Real with Seedorf and Redondo, Leverkusen, 4-1 vs Arsenal, French NT, Inter Milan and others. However he didn't follow them up with a move abroad despite offers from Bayern and Atletico, opting to stay loyal to a rapidly declining Spartak and then largely killed his career by failing a doping test before Euro 2004. Likely hated in Wales until they got their revenge at the last Euro.

Dmitriy Alenichev - Centre midfield for Spartak, Roma and Porto. A fine supporting playmaker with very good passing and dribbling, though he was physically weak midget and mainly suited to a multiple-playmaker, short passing focused way of play, which was Spartak's long held traditional style. He predictably failed at Capello's Roma, not having the defensive qualities for fabio's workhorse midfield setup at all, then did well at Porto where he eventually won everything with Mourinho. Always very good with the NT.

Andrey Tikhonov - Right and Left wing for Spartak. Probably the most well loved player across club boundaries in Russian football past few decades, though wasn't considered by many to be the individual talent his teammates Tsymbalar and Titov were, i still found him to be a very good player with a smart, effective style and fine skills that was wasted playing in the Russian league. He was far too loyal to Spartak though, but ended up stabbed in the back for it when increasingly erratic, alcohol fuelled manager Oleg Romantsev started a feud with him and kicked him out of the club in 2000 despite having another 2 or 3 seasons in him. Never played much for the NT due to Karpin\Kanchelskis on the right and Tsymbalar on the left, then getting shafted by Romantsev who was well into the process of running Spartak and any last chance that generation had at a solid international level showing into the ground.

Dmitriy Loskov - Centre and attacking midfield for Lokomotiv Moscow. Two-footed passing virtuoso that while never fast, had a great vision of the field and reliable big game player, loads of goals and free kicks. Also shafted by Romantsev, fair enough if he favoured Mostovoi and Titov over him, it was arguable but he should have been in NT squads far earlier than he did. Has a good argument for being the greatest midfielder in the league history so far, should be no lower than top 3 imo. Made "fifth wheel" Lokomotiv the main challenger to Spartak and eventually broke their dominance with their first ever league titles and orchestrated various fine performances in Europe, especially against Real Madrid and Inter. I remember 2003/04 R16 vs Monaco when Morientes got him sent off 20 minutes into the 2nd leg with Loko 2-1 up and looking good. That turned the momentum around and they got an away goals win...making the quarter final would have been a fantastic achievement for a club of Loko's size. Watching him in the russian league in his prime was like watching Hagi or Alex de Souza in Turkey, you knew they should be challenging themselves at a higher level, though i don't think Loskov ever had any interest to leave. He was very loyal to Loko and a very laid back guy lacking in ambition.
That Brazilian Alex was a huge talent, incredible that he only played for Fenerbache in Europe. Him and Hagi undoubtedly the 2 most technically gifted players who played in Turkey.
 

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Morten Gamst Pedersen.

That LB who used to play for Portsmouth and Bolton. His name eludes me but he used to score some crackers.
His name popper up for me as well. I think he also scored once when they hammered us.

Mark Viduka was annoyingly good. Built like a pub player, but his positioning and finishing were top class. Perhaps he was the Vardy of that era, someone who had no right being a professional athlete but somehow was.
Steed Malbranque was a solid Premier League player.

Although I think your Son’s and Vardy’s a bit too good to be in this bracket of player.
Fair.
 

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Kanoute was really good at West Ham IIRC (think Man. United were linked with him) but then at Spurs he was injured lots and also in and out with rotation as they also had Defoe and Robbie Keane at the time.

Ask the Sevilla fans on here and he's a legend, more than played his part in their Europa wins and strong challenges in La Liga.

I turned up to an indoor 5 aside league on a Saturday Morning in Dubai last year. Very average level league (First time I'd played in it).

You played 3No 30minute game. In game number 2 they had Freddy Kanoute playing for them. All very strange.
 

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George Weah, Kanu...

Seedorf probably the most criminally underrated during this period...

Giovanni Van Brockhurst, Patrick Kluivert...

Damien Duff had a good spell.

So for me, George Weah, Graeme Le Saux and...

Matt Le Tessier. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. [Tancredi BOOM! With Weah a close second and Dutch creditionals]
He is a Ballon d' Or winner
 

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Almost criminal I mentioned Couto and forgetting Balakov, best player I watched at Sporting. Ffs, everytime I remember I watched live on the stadium a midfield of Bala/Figo/Paulo Sousa i get sick with the shit after that.

Think him Elber and Bobic formed a great trio at Stuttgart later then.


 

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Quality players just under that upper echelon that in many ways went under the radar. This thread has taken a very nostalgic enjoyable direction though I think OP was after PL players? Marian pahars a great shout in this case. Darren Huckerby.
 

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Quality players just under that upper echelon that in many ways went under the radar. This thread has taken a very nostalgic enjoyable direction though I think OP was after PL players? Marian pahars a great shout in this case. Darren Huckerby.
Nope. Just used PL players as examples.
 

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Deportivo La Coruna had a cracking side late 90’s, early 00’s similar to Valencia.

The likes of Juan Carlos Valeron, Djalminha, Makaay, Naybet, Mauro Silva, Diego Tristan and Fran
Valeron, Tristan and Makaay are the ones I was going to nominate if we’re looking at Son level players. Not sure if Son is world class, but he’s borderline or one or two levels below that I suppose - Valeron on his day was phenomenal, very similar to Riqueleme actually.

And to answer the earlier question, someone mentioned Kily Gonzalez but the player who replaced him was absolutely phenomenal - Vicente. Would have been world class if not for injuries.
 

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Bosko Balaban - I remember him moving to Villa and there was a big hype around him

Alessandro D'Alessandro - Massive hype around him from Argentina, but never fulfilled it. Moved to Portsmouth and basically kept them up.

Elber at Bayern - Can't remember him playing, but he was incredible on PES.
 

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The current Porto’s manager,
Sérgio Conceição.

- Pancev
- Jugovic
- Mihajlovic
- Abel Balbo
 
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A couple of more obscure names come to mind from our CL exploits.

Diego Tristan. I used to worry when we played Deportivo because he seemed to be such a thorn in our side.

Carlos Alberto of FC Porto. Seemed to play very well in their CL winning season. Not sure how good he actually was as i never heard of him again and he was one of the players that didn't get a bigger move after that season.

Another lesser known player that looked quality when i was a kid is Djalminha.
 

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The Romanians who weren't Hagi - Dumitrescu, Popescu at Spurs.

Giannini - 'The Prince'

Ivanov is the mad looking Bulgarian

Yekini of Nigeria 1994
 

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Quality players just under that upper echelon that in many ways went under the radar. This thread has taken a very nostalgic enjoyable direction though I think OP was after PL players? Marian pahars a great shout in this case. Darren Huckerby.
Boban was super..... think Fergie was a fan too and tried to sign him
 

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Aye, good shout. But for injuries would have been England's no2 for the whole decade.

Thought these highlights captured what he was all about - some fine contributions and he even wins a penalty in the left-wing position.

Thank you for that. Just a wonderfully balanced footballer. Such a shame.

Michael Bridges another great talent lost to injuries
 

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Protti was the serie A top scorer with 18 goals.
Shearer was top scorer with 34 goals in the same season IIRC

Igor Protti and Dario Hübner. Not many seem to remember either of them but they still remain the only players to finish as the Top Scorers in Serie C, Serie B and Serie A.




'90s and early to mid 2000s Serie A is full of underrated strikers like them, Lucarelli, Chevantón, Delvecchio...

Nihat, Vicente, Penev for La Liga in the same-ish period.
 

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hasselbaink from Leeds, people mention Viduka, i think he was joint top scorer in 98-99 season. Also moved to Atletico Madrid at some point.

Mariam Pahar from Southamptom, Tore Andre Flore at Chelsea in 98-99 season was quite good alongside Zola.

Javier Saviola time in Barcelona in early 00s was good as well. Pablo Aimer in Valencia was one of my favorite players of early 00s.