The tackle, too.
Players who don't get the respect they deserve?
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Wayne Rooney.
I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve read criticism of the board [& their spending/squad building] on here but low & behold an employee of the club [not a childhood fan] raise concerns & want to pick his own destiny [here come the go & support Rooney FC remarks].
He was our standout player for the majority of his time here & I would literally trade ANY one/two/three of our squad for him at 18.
I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve read criticism of the board [& their spending/squad building] on here but low & behold an employee of the club [not a childhood fan] raise concerns & want to pick his own destiny [here come the go & support Rooney FC remarks].
He was our standout player for the majority of his time here & I would literally trade ANY one/two/three of our squad for him at 18.
Jesse Lingard.
Won us the FA cup, regular performer if only in spells, but gets slaughtered over his social media activity.
Won us the FA cup, regular performer if only in spells, but gets slaughtered over his social media activity.
Benzema. I think he's great
I'd say Olivier Giroud is a much better striker than given credit for.
David May superstar
Agreed. Jones managed to stay consinstently injured under 5 different managers.
Ever Banega.
There are some great players who while respected, perhaps don't quite get the recognition they deserve.
Guys like Koeman, Carvalho, Busquets (I've been very guilty of underrating him), Nedved, Suker, Laudrup and Batistuta were all absolutely world class but often get left out of great player conversations. More left field underrated players would be Dixon and that Russian midfielder Dzagoev who I always felt deserved a move to a top club and league.
Guys like Koeman, Carvalho, Busquets (I've been very guilty of underrating him), Nedved, Suker, Laudrup and Batistuta were all absolutely world class but often get left out of great player conversations. More left field underrated players would be Dixon and that Russian midfielder Dzagoev who I always felt deserved a move to a top club and league.
Fixed that for you, buddy. No charge.
Lukaku
As the old saying goes, you die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Rooney was immense for us, but at the end he was allowed to stay far longer than his abilities should have allowed. And now thats whats fresh in the hearts and minds. Once he retires from the game, I can see a lot of fans getting back on board with the hero status he deserves.
Benzema.
Filipe Luis
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One of the most technical and best ball playing centre halves in the league.
One of the most technical and best ball playing centre halves in the league.
Very true.
His decline was immense but that’s only due to his level being so high in the first place.
I just get abit sick of the sanctimonious nature of some fans [not just United ones]. We spend hours on here criticising players, the board, other fans because due to birth, family or culture we support the worlds best football club but when an employee [yes, not a fan] that actually goes out & lays his body on the line for the club actually does something similar he’s a traitor; although the guy went on to make meaningful contributions still.
Where as a Spanish midfielder that suddenly got an injury while negotiating his exit & now plays in Paris is mourned. Or the club captain that didn’t even learn the language or improve his left foot is missed. Not to mention the soon to be highest paid GK in the world that’s been half way to Madrid more than once who is treated like faberge egg.
It’s some kind of medal of honour for people when it comes to Rooney, “he asked to leave so I have to hate him to show how big a United fan I am”; when most of us on this forum would leave our jobs for an extra 2 grand a year & a shorter commute.
But I’m ranting at you like you’re the issue when I 100% agree with you; I just hate the fact this guy isn’t revered as he should be - there’s people in here defending Ashley Young ffs!
Anyone picking Young in here either hasn’t been watching our games the last few seasons, have some weird selective memory going on, or just being contrarian. Or some combination of the three.
Higuain.
Monster of a striker at every level, incredibly complete, succeeded in multiple leagues and circumstances, rightly benched Aguero for Argentina for a long time... but people forget it due to a few big game misses, great amounts of scapegoating and mockery about him getting fat. Arriving in England once he declined physically will hurt his reputation for Premier League fans too.
Monster of a striker at every level, incredibly complete, succeeded in multiple leagues and circumstances, rightly benched Aguero for Argentina for a long time... but people forget it due to a few big game misses, great amounts of scapegoating and mockery about him getting fat. Arriving in England once he declined physically will hurt his reputation for Premier League fans too.
No worries, mate. I agree with every word.
Dzagoev was let down by his injuries, there's no point in being at the top club if you can't play.
This. Most underrated player of this decade.
Rafael Marquez. He'd cost £100 million in his prime today
You are naive if you think that's why he gets slaughtered. Look at his stats.
If he would manage decent performances and solid numbers nobody would care he's acting like a spoiled 15 years old kid all the time.
Right now he's stealing a living here.
This isn’t the “players who don’t get the respect they deserve” thread, this is a study in human psychology.
This thread basically shows that people see the game totally different and that they are drawn to certain aspect of players.
I think that plenty of the picks here are players who are absolutely overrated, some specifically on the caf.
Some are just bizarre, but hey, again that just shows how differently people see a game of football, and life around them in general.
This thread basically shows that people see the game totally different and that they are drawn to certain aspect of players.
I think that plenty of the picks here are players who are absolutely overrated, some specifically on the caf.
Some are just bizarre, but hey, again that just shows how differently people see a game of football, and life around them in general.
The guy who vandalised the Munich memorial poster, released his clothing brand days before playing Liverpool, turned our youngsters into One Direction wannabes and scored 29 goals in 9 years here? I agree he doesn't get the respect he deserves, he's getting way too much.
In a broader context I think Roberto Ayala. Incredible defender at his peak — small in stature but tenacious and positionally astute with a prodigious leap. But rarely mentioned when folks speak of the great defenders of the 2000s...even though he was exceptional for Valencia, was voted UEFA Defender of the Year and was arguably the best central defender of the 2006 World Cup before Argentina were eliminated and Cannavaro really took off as the dominant force of the tournament. And Cañizares for goalkeepers — one of the very best goalkeepers in the game in the same period, but kind of a forgotten figure following Casillas' success.
For recently retired players, it has to be Barzagli. Probably the lowest rated of Juventus' generation-defining central defensive trio when you consider the opinion of the average football watcher, but he was a markedly better defender than Bonucci and eclipsed even Chiellini for a bit. You could even argue that he was the best “pure” defender of the last 7-8 years after only Godín (who was the clear standout). Also one of the best value-for-money signings of the 2010s, costing Juventus less than €1 million in terms of transfer fee!
For active players, probably Mandzukić — who's frequently undermined even though he was an integral cog in Bayern's Treble winning team (not many could have done what he did as an enabler for Müller + Robbery) and later Juventus (shunted out wide to facilitate Higuaín/Dyabal and then proving himself as a fulcrum for Cristiano). Not the most prolific goalscorer, but offers a really good mix of stamina + workrate + adaptability.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/hi/sa/football/features/newsid_3707000/3707345.stm
For recently retired players, it has to be Barzagli. Probably the lowest rated of Juventus' generation-defining central defensive trio when you consider the opinion of the average football watcher, but he was a markedly better defender than Bonucci and eclipsed even Chiellini for a bit. You could even argue that he was the best “pure” defender of the last 7-8 years after only Godín (who was the clear standout). Also one of the best value-for-money signings of the 2010s, costing Juventus less than €1 million in terms of transfer fee!
For active players, probably Mandzukić — who's frequently undermined even though he was an integral cog in Bayern's Treble winning team (not many could have done what he did as an enabler for Müller + Robbery) and later Juventus (shunted out wide to facilitate Higuaín/Dyabal and then proving himself as a fulcrum for Cristiano). Not the most prolific goalscorer, but offers a really good mix of stamina + workrate + adaptability.
Andy Cole
Yes, It's madness, absolute madness.
Mata, Young, Lingard, Jones, Smalling, apparently all done amazingly well.
I shudder to think where we would’ve been without their World class performances on a weekly basis, probably in league 2 or something.
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C. Ronaldo after changing his style.
Agree on the part in bold. 4 League goals and assists from someone who plays where he does is inadequate regardless of how much running he does for the team which should be the 'bare mimimum' of 'any' united player he had a semi decent season two years ago and thinks he has made it. He is nearing his prime and should be producing vastly superior numbers. For this mediocrity he is supposedly getting a handsome £30,000 per week pay-rise, to keep him another 2 years. Chuck him on the bench and give his place to Gomes. In 7 years Lingard has 34 goals and 21 assists in the League. Fecking pathetic. He needs a stormer of a season this year or he can feck off in the summer in my opinion.
C.Ronaldo doesn’t get enough credit?
He is widely hailed as one of the greatest players of all time, that’s not because of what he did with Manchester United in 06/07 as a winger.
Alexis Sanchez - Despite dip in form, no one can knock him for trying and his workrate on the pitch and has never created any drama up to now, yet gets so much hate. Perhaps he's just trying too hard but it's clear that he really wants to succeed at United.
Marcos Rojo - Been here 5 years now, had a lot of injuries to contend with. Doesn't get much opportunities but always has a smile on his face and always gets stuck in on the pitch. Love the guy and his gung-ho approach but universally slated.
Marcos Rojo - Been here 5 years now, had a lot of injuries to contend with. Doesn't get much opportunities but always has a smile on his face and always gets stuck in on the pitch. Love the guy and his gung-ho approach but universally slated.
Yep, but people often forget what he was capable of because he changed his style to be more clinical. He was more exciting than Neymar back in the day, only rivalled by Ronaldinho.
Right now Zlatan. American journalists are trying to say Carlos Vela is better than him .
One even suggested it to him live on tv
One even suggested it to him live on tv
Dimitar Berbatov. A lot of United fans never appreciated his ability. He was never a CF and he was more of a creator of goals than the scorer himself. If not for the Tevez saga he may have been more appreciated. He was one player who could hold the ball and create something for someone.
100% agreed
I'd go for Wes Brown. Lots of people saw him like a solid defender who can do a job, similar to O'Shea. But he had world class abilities and lots of bad luck with injury. Will always remember his perfomances against Barca in the 08 semi final.
Jones. No one respect him at this club, yet
he always fearlessly throw his body to stop the ball. At 27, He also had 26 England caps, not a bad player actually. But people even moan when he extend his contract here, his wage isn’t even that high to begin with.
he always fearlessly throw his body to stop the ball. At 27, He also had 26 England caps, not a bad player actually. But people even moan when he extend his contract here, his wage isn’t even that high to begin with.
These two, times a 1000.
He missed one against Villa in 99