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[rotherham_red]

I don't mind him. If people think this will be a successful transfer window if this guy joins they are out of their minds though. I doubt he'll bring the quality to our CM (straight away) that we need.

I don't think we'll be buying in another midfielder any way. The clear out of the deadwood hasn't happened and Ole's obviously been constrained by the men above him, but I'd rather look at the positives of it meaning that the kids get more of a look in and that they can use this season to properly establish themselves in the squad.

We're so far behind the rest due to the incompetence of the board and our previous managers, that I'd accept a season of consolidation and incremental progress than immediately challenging the teams above us. I'd stick with Ole because for the first time in an age, we actually look like we have an enterprising and attacking plan of action. He has the club's best interests at heart, and his backroom team have an abundance of knowledge and they all complement each other

 

[SATA]

I thought it's been made clear that Inter cannot pay more than 10-20m upfront if any deal is agreed. That's not a lot of money. If we are waiting for such small amounts to add up to make a bid for Maguire we really are skint. Cant see it myself.

No the loan and the loan fee have been scrapped i think. It's now 60-70M upfront plus whatever add ons, it'll be a permanent deal

 

[jeepers]

SAF bought Zaha before he retired.

Moyes didn't buy Zaha, SAF did.

My mistake, thanks boys. Still don’t like the cnut. Complaining United was hell cos he wasn’t given a car as one of the reasons. Useless

 

[NJM78]

No the loan and the loan fee have been scrapped i think. It's now 60-70M upfront plus whatever add ons, it'll be a permanent deal

Ah ok, that's sounds a much better deal. So maybe we do need the cash, which is worrying.

 

[SATA]

My mistake, thanks boys. Still don’t like the cnut. Complaining United was hell cos he wasn’t given a car as one of the reasons. Useless

He wasn't really given a fair chance to be honest. He had a good pre season and then just wasn't seen again. And the silly stories about sleeping with Moyes's daughter didn't help

 

[Bubz27]

Dani Alves for RW.

 

[Drawfull]

Y’all are overreacting over Pepe to Arsenal. He’s not worth £72m and will never be worth that. I can’t understand how people even rate him that highly. Arsenal are crazy to pay that amount of money given the deficiencies in their team.

Plus I’m happy they are getting Pepe over Zaha. Zaha’s a whiny lil biatch with a cnut face. Never liked him cos Moyes bought him and disliked him even more when he started coming up with a thousand and one excuses for his failure to step up after fecking off back to Palace.

No need.

 

[Eric's Seagull]

I can't wait for our sponsorship deals to dry up and our revenue drop.

I can see this happening if we don't start qualifying for the Champions League regularly.

 

[Sanche7]

You have to consider wages too. We have a lot of deadwood earning more than starters for CL challenging teams. I.e. Rojo, Young, Lingard, Sanchez etz.

We gave them those massive contracts. Guys like Jones, Young, Rojo have done nothing to deserve a huge new contract. The club can't use that as an excuse. It's like a guy who is one of the richest in the world saying Hey, I tip my Uber driver very well so now I'm struggling to pay my rent; it just doesn't make sense on so many levels

 

[vanderpants]

I can see this happening if we don't start qualifying for the Champions League regularly.

It will happen Adidas have already a clause in our contract regaurding this

 

[golden_blunder]

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We should sign this lad as backup to Shaw

 

[Eric's Seagull]

It will happen Adidas have already a clause in our contract regaurding this

I was unaware of this thanks for informing me

 

[Eric's Seagull]

We should sign this lad as backup to Shaw

 

[MadMike]

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To the Job Centre, Dani

 

[cyberman]

Sponsorships will never dry up with our fan base

Again its fans forgetting how big we are.

 

[vanderpants]

Sponsorships will never dry up with our fan base

Again its fans forgetting how big we are.

just because we are big doesnt make us good, this is exactly what has happened. Being big doesn't win you leagues, just look at Liverpool

 

[cyberman]

just because we are big doesnt make us good, this is exactly what has happened. Being big doesn't win you leagues, just look at Liverpool

You don't have to be good, just have a stupidly large fan base.
We overtook Madrid with their 4 CL in 5 years during our Moyes, Van Gaal and Jose years, why would it shrink now?

 

[Cee90]

You don't have to be good, just have a stupidly large fan base.
We overtook Madrid with their 4 CL in 5 years during our Moyes, Van Gaal and Jose years, why would it shrink now?

Really? I'm sure this is a chapter straight out of Ed Woodward's book on how to run a football club.

The longer we continue to be rubbish on the pitch, the more our revenue will drop. We have already slipped from 2nd to 6th position in the past year of the richest sports teams in the world.

Under LvG/Jose we still won a few things, also it wasn't that long ago that SAF had retired, so we as a club were still leveraging our reputation. If that is the basis of your argument, then I think you need to have a re-think. I think we can perhaps afford to be rubbish for another few years, but if we continue to be a poor team on the pitch, I really do think our 'we're too big to fail' attitude will come back to bite us in the ass in the longer term.

Also, without wanting to offend a section of our fan base, if we continue to be poor, they will simply change the club they support.

 

[vanderpants]

You don't have to be good, just have a stupidly large fan base.
We overtook Madrid with their 4 CL in 5 years during our Moyes, Van Gaal and Jose years, why would it shrink now?

Because we gained millions of fans over the past twenty years when we were playing nice football and winning everything, its a cycle, lots of "fans" now pick and follow city or Liverpool as they are playing better football and winning trophies. You only have to see young kids playing football on local pitches and there are a lot more football shirts that aren't Utd anymore

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Really? I'm sure this is a chapter straight out of Ed Woodward's book on how to run a football club.

The longer we continue to be rubbish on the pitch, the more our revenue will drop. We have already slipped from 2nd to 6th position in the past year of the richest sports teams in the world.

Under LvG/Jose we still won a few things, also it wasn't that long ago that SAF had retired, so we as a club were still leveraging our reputation. If that is the basis of your argument, then I think you need to have a re-think. I think we can afford to be rubbish for another few years, but if we continue to be a poor team on the pitch, I really do think our 'we're to big to fail' attitude will come back to bite us in the ass in the longer term.

Also, without wanting to offend a section of our fan base, if we continue to stop winning things, they will simply change the club they support.

NWRed wrote:

The main reason for this fall is the weakening of the pound against the dollar, in the past year it's gone from 1.43 to 1.24 (approx). Our absolute value has actually increased by 3%.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

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[Judas]

Don't believe that even a little bit.

 

[Ish]

Douglas Costa would be a great option to have out wide.

 

[cyberman]

Really? I'm sure this is a chapter straight out of Ed Woodward's book on how to run a football club.

The longer we continue to be rubbish on the pitch, the more our revenue will drop. We have already slipped from 2nd to 6th position in the past year of the richest sports teams in the world.

Under LvG/Jose we still won a few things, also it wasn't that long ago that SAF had retired, so we as a club were still leveraging our reputation. If that is the basis of your argument, then I think you need to have a re-think. I think we can perhaps afford to be rubbish for another few years, but if we continue to be a poor team on the pitch, I really do think our 'we're too big to fail' attitude will come back to bite us in the ass in the longer term.

Also, without wanting to offend a section of our fan base, if we continue to be poor, they will simply change the club they support.

Itll take generations for our support to dwindle which would affect our deals.
Nothing of what you are saying has come true. We are the biggest club in the biggest markets in world football.
There's no need to add doom and gloom to a scenario which is clearly not happening.
Oh you're shit over the last six years but, by god, if you're shit over the next 6..
Mid table English sides (not including us) are in the richest top 10 foto feck sake.
No sponsor will turn their noses up at the most supported club playing in the most watched league in world football.
There is no scenario that you can come up with that will explain away that.
None.

 

[Cee90]

NWRed wrote:

That's one possible explanation, but in a way, it doesn't change the point I was trying to make.

I think that a pro-longed unsuccessful period will undoubtedly have a negative impact on the club in the long term.

The top sponsors want their brand to be associated with success. If we are not achieving success on the pitch, we will still be able to attract sponsors because of our history and large fan base, but they aren't likely to be as lucrative compared to the deals we would be able to make if we were winning the Premier League and the Champions League. It's not an outlandish claim really.

 

[SER19]

Don't believe many links now. Based on my feeling and things solskjaer has said and more credible outlets if there are any, I think the following are the only players we could potentially sign this window, and may end up with none.

Tier 1 legitimate targets: maguire, longstaff

Tier 2 enough smoke to think possible: Bruno fernandes

Tier 3: the maybe wildcards: Ben yedder, Dybala

I'd be shocked if we manage any of them, more shocked if we sign any player not listed

 

[Eric's Seagull]

That's one possible explanation, but in a way, it doesn't change the point I was trying to make.

I think that pro-longed unsuccessful period will undoubtedly have a negative impact on the club in the long term.

The top sponsors want their brand to be associated with success. If we are not achieving success on the pitch, we will still be able to attract sponsors because of our history and large fan base, but they aren't likely to be as lucrative compared to the deals we would be able to make if we were winning the Premier League and the Champions League. It's not an outlandish claim really.

Very sensible point which I totally agree with as I have said several times that I think our lack of Champions League football is eventually going to affect us financially

 

[Flytan]

Imagine being outspent by Arsenal in a critical transfer window.

 

[cyberman]

Because we gained millions of fans over the past twenty years when we were playing nice football and winning everything, its a cycle, lots of "fans" now pick and follow city or Liverpool as they are playing better football and winning trophies. You only have to see young kids playing football on local pitches and there are a lot more football shirts that aren't Utd anymore

There isn't any proof at all that football fans are as you say there are.
Has any sponsorship gone down at all? Even one?
Your arguments all sound good and all but the appeal of E gliah football is outstripping other leagues. Our sides are taking fans from them.
There isn't any evidence that Utd or EPL fan bases are shrinking at all.
Why do you think these successful foreign clubs are begging for a super league? To spread their own wealth like robin hood?
Its because all eyes are on England and United are front and centre of that promotion.
The size of our fan base will always guarantee us the biggest deals.
Yes butting the financial gains (!) Over the darkest period over the last 25 years simply doesn't make sense.
Delay sold more shirts when we signed him than Neymar did for Bar a!

 

[Cee90]

Itll take generations for our support to dwindle which would affect our deals.
Nothing of what you are saying has come true. We are the biggest club in the biggest markets in world football.
There's no need to add doom and gloom to a scenario which is clearly not happening.
Oh you're shit over the last six years but, by god, if you're shit over the next 6..
Mid table English sides (not including us) are in the richest top 10 foto feck sake.
No sponsor will turn their noses up at the most supported club playing in the most watched league in world football.
There is no scenario that you can come up with that will explain away that.
None.

What?

You seem to be completely missing the point I am trying to make with your short-term thinking. I am talking about things that are likely to happen in the future, so of course they haven't happened yet. Saying that, it is widely reported that we are no longer the richest and most valuable club - we have gone from 2nd to 6th over the past year.

Rather than try to have a logical discussion and properly discuss the correlation between on the pitch performance and revenue, you seem to have taken a position of pure arrogance and delusion. You're the Glazers dream.

 

[Alemar]

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But it can't be true. Who would ask for Douglas Costa instead of Dybala?

 

[Eric's Seagull]

There isn't any proof at all that football fans are as you say there are.
Has any sponsorship gone down at all? Even one?
Your arguments all sound good and all but the appeal of E gliah football is outstripping other leagues. Our sides are taking fans from them.
There isn't any evidence that Utd or EPL fan bases are shrinking at all.
Why do you think these successful foreign clubs are begging for a super league? To spread their own wealth like robin hood?
Its because all eyes are on England and United are front and centre of that promotion.

Don't think we should be concerned about a Super League which may or may not happen. I think we should be more concerned about qualifying for the Champions League which Woody doesn't seem too concerned about.

 

[cyberman]

What?

You seem to be completely missing the point I am trying to make with your short-term thinking. I am talking about things that are likely to happen in the future, so of course they haven't happened yet. Saying that, it is widely reported that we are no longer the richest and most valuable club - we have gone from 2nd to 6th over the past year.

Rather than try to have a logical discussion and properly discuss the correlation between on the pitch performance and revenue, you seem to have taken a position of pure arrogance and delusion. You're the Glazers dream.

Our fall is due to Brexit. Is that the basis for your theory?
We have a huge fan base, that is it. There's nothing more to be said.
All this stuff about successful clubs etc is just pie in the sky nonsense.
Clubs will always want to advertise to the biggest fan base in world football. That's just how it is.
Explain to me why Addidas would want to leave United and the money we bring so they can sponsor City and their blue seats? Or Juve with their little watched league?
In a time where English football is, by far, the richest league in the world, its foolish to predict any of our top sides will see a fall in revenue.
Its nonsense.

 

[roseguy64]

Ole did mention I believe that United would look to replace any players we sell? Or am I mistaken. Maybe they see Dybala as a forward and not an addition to the Mata squad.

Well he did also say when asked about replacing Herrera that we have McTomminay and Perreira to plug that gap, so I take it all with a pinch of salt.

He talked about replacing Lukaku with another player. He would still be considered a first team player so would need a replacement.

Pereira barely played last season so it could be seen why he'd be viewed as a replacement.

 

[red4ever 79]

He talked about replacing Lukaku with another player. He would still be considered a first team player so would need a replacement.

Pereira barely played last season so it could be seen why he'd be viewed as a replacement.

In other words Ole speaks like a politician making up things as he goes along. So lets say that Greenwood is the replacement for Lukaku then as he hardly featured last season.

 

[ChaddyP]

Imagine being outspent by Arsenal in a critical transfer window.

How much have arsenal spent this window. Looks like it's still close to zero.

They have done one free transfer and one transfer for about 27 million.

We have spent 45 plus add ons and 15 plus add ons... So 60.

Pépé deal for them IF IT GOES through is some long winded 5 year payment plan where they agreed 72 million pounds. That's about 14 million a year.

So how have the outspent us? Even if this goes through. Please note that Napoli can still sign him as they have aslo agreed a fee with Lyon. And we are also in negotiations with Leicester having already had a 70 million pound bid rejected.

 

[buckooo1978]

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bullshit but it would be a great move

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

That's one possible explanation, but in a way, it doesn't change the point I was trying to make.

I think that a pro-longed unsuccessful period will undoubtedly have a negative impact on the club in the long term.

The top sponsors want their brand to be associated with success. If we are not achieving success on the pitch, we will still be able to attract sponsors because of our history and large fan base, but they aren't likely to be as lucrative compared to the deals we would be able to make if we were winning the Premier League and the Champions League. It's not an outlandish claim really.

I don't disagree with your overriding point. We need to be successful to maintain.

 

[Cee90]

Our fall is due to Brexit. Is that the basis for your theory?
We have a huge fan base, that is it. There's nothing more to be said.
All this stuff about successful clubs etc is just pie in the sky nonsense.
Clubs will always want to advertise to the biggest fan base in world football. That's just how it is.
Explain to me why Addidas would want to leave United and the money we bring so they can sponsor City and their blue seats? Or Juve with their little watched league?
In a time where English football is, by far, the richest league in the world, its foolish to predict any of our top sides will see a fall in revenue.
Its nonsense.

You are talking absolute nonsense.

So just to clarify once and for all:

Topic of discussion: Analysing the correlation between on the pitch performances and future revenue in football.

Cyberman's well-thought out, articulate argument: "We have a huge fan base, that is it. There's nothing more to be said".

Ok great, thanks. Glad it's all cleared up now and I can get on with my day.

Not once have you taken a look down from your position of arrogance to even consider and discuss the potential of a dwindling worldwide fan base due to future unsuccess, how other Premier League clubs are closing the gap on us financially, the more money we would receive from sponsors if we were the best football club or how the future generation will more likely be attracted to rival Premier League clubs if we continue to miss out on Champions League football, but that's fine I guess.