Thing is, hypothetically, if we add Dybala and Maguire to the team we're only really one good RW away from being a really good team.
Paulo Dybala
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you pay them up to a level where if things don't work out a player could be moved on, if you are paying them over what they could earn at another club, then its too much.
If we offered Dybala 300k a week he would be the joint second highest earner in the league behind Sanchez and level with Ozil.
Dybala is a really talanted player, but he hasn't quite become the world class player people thought he would a few years back, and can be quite inconsistent. Put a player like that, who has never played in the premier league, on a wage that would make him really hard to move on is not a good idea.
Can't sign them all mate, at least we tried
That's why he wants to talk to Sarri first and foremost - and no I don't think it would be that bad, deals fail all the time, players don't get written off because of a transfer deal failure.
He was scoring 20+ goals each year for 3 years before Ronaldo came in. That’s pretty consistent. Also age is on his side. Same with Di Maria. He was on high wages and we moved him.
I’m a bit nervous about this he’s a big gamble. Seems a quality player but feels like if he joins us it’s just cos he has little choice and we offer big money. Also I’m not sure he’s physically or mentally suited to the prem. can he do it on a cold wet Wednesday night ?
Fairly certain he doesn't have an agent per se. His brother is his 'agent' and another person takes care of his commercial stuff.
Thing is, if he doesn't want to come then we don't want him anyway and if he does then we do. Win win.
Then he had such an off season the Juve are prepared to ship him out.
Wtf you on about?
He didn’t have such an off-season. Everything revolves around Ronaldo. Different manager. Different system. Different players. They have a ton of midfielders now. This is the same situation with Mata at Chelsea when Mou took over. Wasn’t he player of the year for them and he is shipped out the minute Mourinho walks in?
Jorge Antun
Think of all the times you've watched Lingard play for United in the last two years. Now imagine it was Dybala instead. It's an enormous upgrade (if it happens).
What a poor and uneducated post.
Heinze never went to Liverpool, but he was a good player for us just not as good as the player who replaced him in Evra.
Fabio played in the CL final vs Barcelona and was on an upward trajectory under SAF.
Forlan was a hit for the Liverpool goals alone.
Anderson scored in the 2008 CL final shootout, he can have the benefit of the doubt for the rest of his time stealing a living here.
Veron was a great player for us especially in the CL, he just wasn't suited to the PL.
Dybala is more talented than every player on that list, only arguably Veron was more so. A player of Dybala's talent is a risk worth taking because he is much better than what we already have. I would rather see him than Martial, Mata, Lingard and at the moment Rashford as he is too selfish.
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Tomorrow will be the day.
If he wants to come I think it will be reported then.
If he wants to come I think it will be reported then.
Enormous is an understatement. It’s minimum a 20 goals a season upgrade. And a statement of intent too - it will help attract/keep other top players (whereas Lingard does exactly the opposite)
Since when was Rojo a hit? 
Heinze was a cnut
He had a fairly off season last year, he certainly didn't play like a player we should make the joint second highest paid player in the premier league.
Im not agaisnt signing Dybala I think he is a good player, who I would like us to have in our team, but I'm agaisnt paying him a wage that means its unlikely to shift him. You only should do somthing like that if some one is world class one of a kind talent. and that isn't Dybala.
Think this might drag until Friday or Monday.
Surely that would mean even his brother wouldn't stiff him in a move to United if Dybala really didn't want it.
Since when was Rojo a hit?
Since Heinze went to Liverpool.
He certainly didn't play for Liverpool..Uneducated is an understatement!!
He didn’t play like his usual self cause he was played out of position. That matters. He isn’t a winger. If you push him out right even he comes here it’s gonna be the same. He won’t be effective. Just think of Martial. He is a winger but if you switch him to the right he isn’t the same. Same with Dybala. In fact it’s worse. At least Martial is a winger. You take a #10/SS and play him out wide how could you possibly expect the same consistency?
And since Rooney went to City.
Fair points but if he didn't work out and he wanted away because he was miserable, we'd had another poor couple of seasons and still struggling, I imagine he would shift to another team and accept a lower wage. With transfer fees and wages rising as well, I don't think he'd be impossible to part ways with and at 27, I don't imagine he would want to sit and not play at a club where it hasn't worked out.
There's also the chance he does really well and plays an important part in us having a few good seasons to come. If he was 28 or 29 I would totally agree, but it would be an exciting signing and help play a part in giving everyone more optimism that this season will be better than last.
I read that but didn't even realise I didn't respond, probably because it was such a ridiculous statement
Tomorrow should be progress in terms of having final talks with Juve, and then we'd likely meet with him or something to iron out his contract and get that signed the following day/on the weekend, then since United always do it we have to have a super dramatic announcement video and all that, have a friendly on Saturday, so likely any announcement would be Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday next week, but we'd hear stuff through Di Marzio probably with updates.Why tomorrow? Have I missed any vital news today or is this just wishful thinking?
Think it’s also that we had initially given Inter a deadline of Thursday to complete any deal.Why tomorrow? Have I missed any vital news today or is this just wishful thinking?
For the past 5 seasons as an average, how many forwards have been as good as or better than Dybala?
Messi
Ronaldo
Hazard
Neymar
Griezmann
Suarez
Aguero
Lewandowski
Is that it?
Messi
Ronaldo
Hazard
Neymar
Griezmann
Suarez
Aguero
Lewandowski
Is that it?
Why tomorrow? Have I missed any vital news today or is this just wishful thinking?
Been reported that there’s a meeting tomorrow with Dybala and Juve president.
I imagine he tell him he’s ok to leave or if he wants to say.
I also imagine it won’t be long now before whatever happens in that meeting to get out.
If he wants to go and tells them that tomorrow then it’s really just fininlzing the deal.
He pushed for a move to Liverpool but SAF blocked this and sold him abroad to Madrid. Might be causing the original poster confusion
Too much talk.
Is it done?
Is it done?
Cheers. I for one would be extremely happy with Paulo even though he's south american
, he would have an immediate impact on our ability to break down teams.he wants to look into Sarri's eyes and hear him say its over
Here's a good article from an Italian paper:
Paulo Dybala doesn't want to leave Juve. But Juve have decided to sell him. And he is close to a deal with Manchester United, with or without Romelu Lukaku. That's why the Argentine must in any case listen to the Red Devils, before saying yes or no. In fact, one of his trusted men, Jorge Antun, arrived in England in the last few hours. He was usually taking care of his commercial interests but is now appointed by the Dybala family to start negotiations with United.
Dybala's position at the moment hasn't changed. On Thursday he will be in Turin and he will immediately want a direct meeting with Maurizio Sarri, despite the fact that the club has discarded him. The Premier League has never been his ambition (project/dream) and he would like to stay at Juve and eventually wait and see for something different to develop on the international market, whether it's PSG or one of the great clubs from Spain. In the meantime, Jorgen Antun has flown to London to listen to the United's technical and economic proposal. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is a big fan of him, and United's offering a higher engagement than he currently receives at Juve. But for now all this may not be enough.
The fact that Antun is in conversation with United is further confirmation of how close the agreement is between the clubs. Whether it's a straight swap with Lukaku or a swap and cash (of about 15 million) or it could be a straight Dybala sale to Old Trafford without Lukaku moving the other way. Juve has decided to get rid of the player, Dybala's signature is missing. His response could affect the market in half of Italy.
Paulo Dybala doesn't want to leave Juve. But Juve have decided to sell him. And he is close to a deal with Manchester United, with or without Romelu Lukaku. That's why the Argentine must in any case listen to the Red Devils, before saying yes or no. In fact, one of his trusted men, Jorge Antun, arrived in England in the last few hours. He was usually taking care of his commercial interests but is now appointed by the Dybala family to start negotiations with United.
Dybala's position at the moment hasn't changed. On Thursday he will be in Turin and he will immediately want a direct meeting with Maurizio Sarri, despite the fact that the club has discarded him. The Premier League has never been his ambition (project/dream) and he would like to stay at Juve and eventually wait and see for something different to develop on the international market, whether it's PSG or one of the great clubs from Spain. In the meantime, Jorgen Antun has flown to London to listen to the United's technical and economic proposal. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is a big fan of him, and United's offering a higher engagement than he currently receives at Juve. But for now all this may not be enough.
The fact that Antun is in conversation with United is further confirmation of how close the agreement is between the clubs. Whether it's a straight swap with Lukaku or a swap and cash (of about 15 million) or it could be a straight Dybala sale to Old Trafford without Lukaku moving the other way. Juve has decided to get rid of the player, Dybala's signature is missing. His response could affect the market in half of Italy.
I think many on here underestimate what United can offer players. Yes more money but also a huge media presence, notoriety, etc... and as we see in football things can change quickly. I know many on here think we 'suck' and will 'suck for a long time but not everyone in the world of football thinks that way.
How exciting.
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