lukaku's exit was on the cards before Maguire's interest was confirmed. Say we had a hard cap of 100m, we've allegedly spent 72. This 28 left. If we received an initial offer of 50 is million for Lukaku, thats 78 million. If inter are paying more now, hence we can go back in with a higher bid for lukaku as per the press association journo.
Solskjaer target 5 signings; 6 players could leave [BBC, Telegraph, Guardian]
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Or it could be utter nonsense. Are you saying that if Leicester accepted £70m, United would have taken £50m for Lukaku? A £25m + whatever bonuses may have been paid loss on their second highest ever signing, making Ed look an utter pillock in the process?
Maybe the Maguire signing is taking longer because Leicester don't want to sell him, have stacks of cash and it's a really difficult deal to complete.
Lukaku openly spoke about his exit and his admiration of conte/Inter on 11 JUN, our bid for maguire was rejected 2/JUL. From that moment on, nothing has happened with maguire because nothing progressed with lukaku (if this logic holds).
Lukaku openly talking about an exit to the press also suggests a deal was further along and thus talks started earlier than he 11/JUN. Which would then suggest our real bid for maguire came close to a month after lukaku's exit talks were started.
If you want to talk about Woodward looking like a pillock, he spent more money on Fellaini on deadine day then a deal for Fellaini and Baines would have cost earlier in the window. So i'm happy for woodward to be classed as a pillock
An initial bid for Maguire could well have been offered off the back of knowing a minimum amount for lukaku would be 50m.I'm not denying that Woodward is a pillock, just that he would happily make himself look like one.Lukaku openly spoke about his exit and his admiration of conte/Inter on 11 JUN, our bid for maguire was rejected 2/JUL. From that moment on, nothing has happened with maguire because nothing progressed with lukaku (if this logic holds).
Lukaku openly talking about an exit to the press also suggests a deal was further along and thus talks started earlier than he 11/JUN. Which would then suggest our real bid for maguire came close to a month after lukaku's exit talks were started.
If you want to talk about Woodward looking like a pillock, he spent more money on Fellaini on deadine day then a deal for Fellaini and Baines would have cost earlier in the window. So i'm happy for woodward to be classed as a pillock
I think the "United have limited funds" is an easy story to run and people are far too eager to believe it.
Bruno Fernandez is dependent on Pogba leaving is such an odd story too. Pogba is clearly being deployed in a midfield 2 this season. It's incredibly unlikely that Fernandez would play that role.
My take on it is that United have identified targets where there is a major gap between their valuation and that of the selling club. So these deals will take longer to complete.
you could well be correct, i just found it interesting that a PA journo was running with that story.
It's a story far more likely to get clicks than "United attempting to negotiate a reasonable fee for Maguire/Fernandes".
The club paid almost £50m on Aaron Wan Bissaka. A very talented youngster but he's not even a full international. They also bid £70m for a player who moved for a quarter of that fee 2 years ago. Despite this the "penny pinching Glazers" narrative continues on.
The Glazers and Woodward continue to run the club really poorly but have spent huge money. Their failing is competence not a will to succeed.
Another year another crappy transfer window. Even if we do make another signing before it shuts we’ve still not addressed positions that are crying out for fresh blood. I’m annoyed that all the deadwood is still stinking up the place. You get the feeling that Rojo, lingard, Jones etc are going to be still playing for us for years to come. They’re like a bad smell you can’t get rid of.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. These threads are comedy gold.
even Fergie never got the points total City and Liverpool did last season
you really think Ole can beat that with those three?
I don't think Dybala suits our style of play. Maguire and Bruno would elevate our defense and midfield (if Pogba stays). That will definitely not put us in a position to challenge for the league. However, that would put us in a position to guarantee 4th position.
City already did repeat it, but let's say you are right and they 'only' get 90 points this season its still too far off IMO
Last season City got exactly 2 points less than their record 100 in 17/18 when caftards predicted they wouldn't get close to that again.
They can and they probably will repeat it and maybe force other clubs (Liverpool last season) to rise up to it. People need to wake up to the new standards set by others and forget the 'golden oldie' standards United themselves set in an era that is done and over with.
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We are miles off either way - you are right.
Yes this is why it is nonsense. We are clearly trying to sign Maguire and longstaff and clearly not trying to sign anybody else without transfers out
If we end up with Maguire and Dybala it's going to be a very good transfer window. Still not great in centre midfield but it looks like we will only play 2 there, in a 4-2-3-1, and so it might be fine provided one of Mctominay and Fred step up their game this season.
He can play all across front line and hold the ball well in tight areas also bring others into play, definitely an area Lukaku struggled so if he agrees that I think we should bite the bullet.
Just get it done with Bruno, Dybala and Maguire. Get rid of deadwood afterwards, and go get a propper defensive midtfielder and Sancho next summer. Then take on the Smurfs for the title next season.
Daniel James [£15m]
Aaron Wan-Bissaka [£50m]
...Harry Maguire [£80m]
...Bruno Fernandes [£70m]
...Paulo Dybala [Lukaku swap]
Could you imagine?
Aaron Wan-Bissaka [£50m]
...Harry Maguire [£80m]
...Bruno Fernandes [£70m]
...Paulo Dybala [Lukaku swap]
Could you imagine?
No, he cannot play ALL across the front line because he does not have a striker's instinct like an Aguero or a Suarez for that matter. His best positions are CAM, SS and RW (maybe). He does not possess the pace of Salah or a Sane to do any damage on the RW. He's a terrific passer, has a good shot on him and has good chemistry in the final third but I don't think he can hold off the ball (especially in the PL where the defenders are a lot more physical).
That would be amazing, followed by 6 leaving.
Herrera,
Young,
Darmian,
Rojo,
Sanchez,
Jones.
Ole's at the wheel,
Tell me how good does it feel,
We've still got Sanchez, Darmian, Rojo and Fred,
Jesse Lingard is Manc beans and beanz,
The Greatest of English football,
We've gone signed feck all
Tell me how good does it feel,
We've still got Sanchez, Darmian, Rojo and Fred,
Jesse Lingard is Manc beans and beanz,
The Greatest of English football,
We've gone signed feck all
This would have been a great start to our rebuild
but we're fecked unless Woody can come up with something really special soon. Which I don't think is going to happen
Honestly... No.
Id be amazed if we even brought two of those last three in
Then he is suited to a false 9 role. Although I think he still can hold off the ball and turn and bring others into play, which is a quality needed against high quality opposition than physical epl teams, I agree he lacks pace so at RW he will drift Inside just like Mata and AWB will have to provide width, although he is more dangerous in final third.
If we sign a right winger next summer and Pogba leaves I think then we might see dybala in his preferred role.
Another day passed and nothing happened
Bruno Fernandes still crying
Maguire has the shit
Bruno Fernandes still crying
Maguire has the shit
Yep, after some excitement absolutely nothing has happened and it’s gone dead again. We can’t get anything over the line.
Bruno Fernandes still crying
Maguire has the shit
Moaners thread.
From my understanding AWB and Dan James is part of fiscal year 2018/2019.
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Arrivals/departures fiscal year July 2018 - June 2019
Fred £55m
Dan James £17m
AWB £55m
S Johnstone +£7,5m
M Fellaini +7,5m
Total net spend 2018/19
£112m
(D Blind and Diogo Dalot was part of fiscal year 2017/18 if I understand this correctly)
Spending fiscal year 2019/20 (according to latest speculations from various sources)
Maguire (£70+10m)
Dybala (£90 m)
Lukaku (+£75m)
Bruno F (£70m)
Darmian (£5m?)
Another bench warmer
A net spend gross somewhere close to £160m. Let’s say we can split the payments regarding Maguire and Bruno in two years, then we talk about a net spend fiscal year 2019/20 of £85m. Maybe maybe...
We can hope and dream for the next week at least.This would have been a great start to our rebuild
Totally agree. What I have been saying for a while.
You realise a fiscal year is April to March don't you?
*cumface*
That’s the Income Tax Year. Many, if not most, companies don’t operate on that basis. I think our fiscal year starts 1st July to 30th June.
No my friend, see below.
From my understanding we finalized the deal involving AWB and DJ before June 30. The players registration was done later after July 1. But I’m not 100% sure. I don’t find any reliable source if this is correct but according to our latest annual report and results from Q3 this make sense. Please correct me if there is other informations out there regarding dates and registrations.
https://ir.manutd.com/investor-faqs.aspx
- When does the company's fiscal year end?
Our fiscal year ends June 30
I'd be happy with this. Still nervous that it's not enough and that some might fail to show improvement on what we had in that position, but satisfied that we've done what we can in the window and with the age and potential quality of the players brought in. Anything less will be a disappointing window.
Looks like finally Maguire in.
I hope the reports of keeping Tuanzebe are true. I rather bin Rojo than Smalling.
We do need to get rid of a centre back.
I hope the reports of keeping Tuanzebe are true. I rather bin Rojo than Smalling.
We do need to get rid of a centre back.
Wan-Bissaka - Lindelöf - Maguire - Shaw
feck yeah! Feels massive to finally have such a reliable back 4.
feck yeah! Feels massive to finally have such a reliable back 4.