I can buy a KitKat and a gun like it's the same tomb
Gun control
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Not at all. I have more contempt for USA than almost any other country. It's the smugness, indifference and apathy of the Americans that really wind me up.
But in several states you can regain the right to bare arms
That's every state.
I guess that anywhere in Europe, even if you disregard gun laws, such posts would get you arrested or followed closely by terror police. It's a pretty disturbing sentiment. In America it's not really noteworthy.
“Ahh yes, people die everyday. I am very intelligent. Yes.”
No idea why non Americans care so much. I would hazard a guess that 8 out of 10 Americans would say "no" to a straight gun ban. The more liberal ones want a bit more gun control at most ("take away from mentally ill", "more background checks", blabla) but a straight ban of all guns would get a "no" from 80 % of the US population, no doubt about it.
Did a quick Google search and there it is: https://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx
Did a quick Google search and there it is: https://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx
So, yeah, what do you care? It's their culture, it's their choice.
Someone should tell the dudes in charge of America's foreign policy that.
Bizarre post. It's possible to care about things that happen in other countries.
Also, you posted this literally yesterday:
It's not about our emotions responding to spectacle, as opposed to data you prize twat.
In all of his examples - car industry, suicide, medical industry etc, people work tirelessly to try to reduce the number that die because of the events that he mentions. The car industry is continually looking for way to make cars safer. The fact that cars have the potential to cause harm means that you have to pass a test before you are allowed to operate one on your own - otherwise there would be a greater incidence of accidents and a greater number of deaths.
Of those, the ones caused by guns are the only ones where they turn a blind eye and ignore reality.
One person tried to blow up a plane with a device hidden in his shoes and still every flyer usually has to remove their shoes to avoid the 'chance' of that happening.
Yet people are killed by rifles and semi-automatic weapons that are so far removed from the muskets the Constitution talks about, and the politicians remain resolute in avoiding the elephant in the room.
No doubt he thought he was making a profound point, as he often does when he opens his mouth. He's an arrogant arse.
What a feck is his point? Idiot.
Tyson is a prized bellend
For feck sake. People are so dumb.
For a smart man, he sure is an idiot. He must know that 40 deaths via fecking gunshot in 48 hours is ridiculously high, and easily avoidable. How isn't he getting that?
There's no perspective to be gained by placing that figure against things you'd expect people to die of.
Also guns are literally designed to kill. A stuffing car isn't. What the feck was he thinking?
My post was directed towards the posters above my post who were so angered that they wished it happened to the NRA people or the president and felt "contempt" towards the US because of such events. That's actually bizzare. Why would you get triggered like this if a) the vast majority of US people want this gun culture and b) it only concerns them?
Yes, I posted once yesterday. But posting or having an opinion doesn't mean I'm so invested into it (of course people also can be if they want).
Please tell me youre not american, the irony there would be just too much.
Of course I'm not.
Up to 255 now. They (GVA) class it as four or more people shot.
Thank god for that.
Probably because even though they're not Americans they realize even Americans are people and they are upset that they continue to allow kids to be murdered with assault rifles because of FECK YEA FREEDUMMM.
Why watch the news at all, as long as it's not happening to you, who gives a feck.
Tyson's apology is almost just as bad as the original tweet, can't be bothered to write out the whole thing but he says this...
"I apologize for not knowing in advice what effect my tweet would have on you"
twat
"I apologize for not knowing in advice what effect my tweet would have on you"
twat
Gun mentality.
I like this article by David Frum in The Atlantic. Makes the classic points very well, I think...
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/guns-are-american-exception/595450/
"Like the threat of Islamic extremism, the specter of white nationalism summons Americans to defend their institutions and values against a repugnant, violent ideology. But it is not because the U.S. is uniquely afflicted with either Islamic extremism or white nationalism that it suffers vastly more gun deaths than the rest of the developed world. America’s uniquely bloodstained record of violence is a consequence of America’s uniquely reckless attitudes toward weapons of mass death."
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/guns-are-american-exception/595450/
"Like the threat of Islamic extremism, the specter of white nationalism summons Americans to defend their institutions and values against a repugnant, violent ideology. But it is not because the U.S. is uniquely afflicted with either Islamic extremism or white nationalism that it suffers vastly more gun deaths than the rest of the developed world. America’s uniquely bloodstained record of violence is a consequence of America’s uniquely reckless attitudes toward weapons of mass death."
What I mean is that if he didn't want to very clearly isolate homicide by handgun as a statistic then he could have rolled the probably 75% of suicides that use a gun into the 40 homicides and landed at around 230, but that wouldn't support his line of thought. Also he doesn't include accidental shootings at probably 2-3 per day. He's clearly trying to diminish the negative impact the 2nd has on American society.
Exactly.
The mental gymnastics gun supporters need to make to try and maintain their point in the face of all of these mass shootings would be laughable if they weren't so tragic.
I get the impression he's not trying to sway any thinking. More that he's trying to show how he's much smarter than everyone else by realising something.
'Stuff other than guns sometimes causes death."
Wow. Profound thinking by the esteemed scientist. We're not worthy.
Wow. Profound thinking by the esteemed scientist. We're not worthy.
Carrying a gun in public has to become to be seen as the cowardly act it is. Killing Americans (or wanting the ability to do so fast, effortless) has to somehow become unpatriotic.
People saying it's too late now because 300m guns etc. also need a fecking head exam. What do they think Europe looked like 1945? Guns everywhere.
People saying it's too late now because 300m guns etc. also need a fecking head exam. What do they think Europe looked like 1945? Guns everywhere.
Well put.
Yep, agreed.
I remember when we had a call after some random person had seen a young man posing with a machine-gun on social media. Over 20 police officers from my division stormed his house. I'm from Serbia.
Thank christ you still can't buy kinder eggs in the USA. Those things are lethal
What's lethal is letting anyone own a fecking gun. What's more lethal is people like @barros and their constant defence and justification to own such weapons while disregarding the tragedy and pain and destruction while defending that right to own something that's only purpose is to compensate for a small penis or to shoot shit to make said small penis grow a little so they can feel more manly.
Funny how the vast majority of mass shooters are white males..
Hmmmm
Does anybody know if we have anything similar to the NRA in the UK? I'm just trying to set a frame of reference for this organisation because I can't get my around the power they have over the government and why the US just can't say feck it to guns.
There’s an NRA in the UK. I don’t know anything about them but I doubt they’re as crazy as the American NRA.
https://nra.org.uk/
Gun Manufacturers buy Politicians so they can profit.
The NRA and Gun Manufacturers would have been rubbing their hands with glee after the two mass shootings.
More gun sales.
The NRA and Gun Manufacturers would have been rubbing their hands with glee after the two mass shootings.
More gun sales.