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Wow. That's big. So many high profile and very rich people involved.

r/conspiracy is gonna be in overload.
 

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No way this was suicide. I was hoping to finally see the child abusing circles of power fall, but yet again it plays out just as it did with those protecting Dutroux, those who killed investigative reporter Jill Dando and many other cases in the last decades...
 

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Seems weird just as a few names were dropping and people wonder why people believe in conspiracies.

Really does stink to high heaven all of this.

Clintons be celebrating with pizza tonight.
 

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Yeah, I am not one to buy into conspiracy theories but this one I've got to bite. No way he was able to commit suicide when supposedly being watched around the clock and the day after a bunch of names started coming out
 

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It’s weird how people focus on the Clintons in all this. One name out of dozens and dozens.
 

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It’s weird how people focus on the Clintons in all this. One name out of dozens and dozens.
I don't think there's a direct accusation against Trump in this (other than him knowing) his there is against Bill, and he's by a big distance the highest profile over directly accused.
 

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People say it stinks to high heaven but does it really? Isn’t he pretty much exactly the kind of person to commit suicide in this position? The suicide rate and self harm rates in prisons are through the roof anyway but here you have billionaire sociopath stripped of all his material wealth, power and control, the act of suicide is the last act of control and a feck you to the authorities that tried to control him and to the victims that wanted to see him brought to justice.
 

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People say it stinks to high heaven but does it really? Isn’t he pretty much exactly the kind of person to commit suicide in this position? The suicide rate and self harm rates in prisons are through the roof anyway but here you have billionaire sociopath stripped of all his material wealth, power and control, the act of suicide is the last act of control and a feck you to the authorities that tried to control him and to the victims that wanted to see him brought to justice.

And able to hang himself whilst on supposed suicide watch.
 

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I don't think there's a direct accusation against Trump in this (other than him knowing) his there is against Bill, and he's by a big distance the highest profile over directly accused.
What was the accusation against Bill? I’ve genuinely missed that, I thought it was the same guilty by association?
 

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People say it stinks to high heaven but does it really? Isn’t he pretty much exactly the kind of person to commit suicide in this position? The suicide rate and self harm rates in prisons are through the roof anyway but here you have billionaire sociopath stripped of all his material wealth, power and control, the act of suicide is the last act of control and a feck you to the authorities that tried to control him and to the victims that wanted to see him brought to justice.
Yes but he was a high profile inmate on suicide watch. So it's either corruption or gross incompetence.
 

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They actually let him kill himself, didn't they? Wow. So much for suicide watch.
 

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Wasn't there another attempt just last week (or was that a murder attempt by a fellow inmate) ?
 

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Sky already reporting this isn't the end the victims wanted. All this will be pushed to the sidelines now and will soon be business as normal for the elites. I think they should go after these scumbags whether they are republicans, democrats or even royalty.

Agree with VorZakone that I am angered by this.
 

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Sky already reporting this isn't the end the victims wanted. All this will be pushed to the sidelines now and will soon be business as normal for the elites. I think they should go after these scumbags whether they are republicans, democrats or even royalty.

Agree with VorZakone that I am angered by this.
Some redditor already described it well: we're gonna get the 'he's dead, let's forget about the past and move on' narrative from now on.
 

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Wasn't there another attempt just last week (or was that a murder attempt by a fellow inmate) ?
There were conflicting reports - suicide attempt or murder by a crooked ex-cop who worked for the mafia.

Wasn’t Trump named by one or two of the victims in their affidavits?
I haven't been following this too closely, but he wasn't named in the ones released yesterday. Will try and find when I have time.
 

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What was the accusation against Bill? I’ve genuinely missed that, I thought it was the same guilty by association?
Flew on his plane many a time, can't remember if he ever went to Lolita Island though.
 

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Wasn’t Trump named by one or two of the victims in their affidavits?
Ya, I was referring to this line unsealed* yesterday
In a deposition, Giuffre says that Epstein told her that he was friends with Trump, but that she never witnessed the president and Epstein together. “Donald Trump never flirted with me,” she testified, and added that she didn’t see him have sex with girls at Epstein’s homes.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-biggest-bombshells-in-newly-unsealed-jeffrey-epstein-documents
It's a line that tends to stick in the memory.

Looks like I was wrong on Clinton being named from yesterday's stuff, might be getting mixed up.


*I saw it yesterday in a tweet thread of unsealed documents
 

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Sky already reporting this isn't the end the victims wanted. All this will be pushed to the sidelines now and will soon be business as normal for the elites. I think they should go after these scumbags whether they are republicans, democrats or even royalty.

Agree with VorZakone that I am angered by this.
Certainly isn't but in America death = justice so everyone will move on.
 

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Flew on his plane many a time, can't remember if he ever went to Lolita Island though.
Flew 6 times without Secret Service detail on the Lolita Express. He is a definite nonce. Trump is likely one too.

I am so fecking angry at this. He is so clearly an intelligence asset in a blackmailing operation. And he has so clearly been suicided, and the victims will be forgotten, and the rape will be forgotten, and the elite upper class families involved will be forgotten, and we'll be being told to fecking vote for one of them again in 4 years time. It's such a fecking joke.
 

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Ah yeah, that’s what I’m thinking of.

See above
Oh I know he was a visitor, for sure, and knew what was happening. Roughly what Trump said in the early 2000s: "Epstein is a great guy who likes girls almost as much as me, even on the younger side".

I just haven't seen anyone accuse him directly of having sex with one of Epstein's girls.
 

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Oh I know he was a visitor, for sure, and knew what was happening. Roughly what Trump said in the early 2000s: "Epstein is a great guy who likes girls almost as much as me, even on the younger side".

I just haven't seen anyone accuse him directly of having sex with one of Epstein's girls.
Pretty sure he was directly accused by someone but she was completely unreliable and probably a plant to muddy the waters. Trump has plenty of plants out there already muddying the waters for him with his links to Epstein, and claiming he disavowed him etc etc. Tbf the feds said Trump helped a lot with the first arrest. I just don't trust Trump in the slightest and I believe he was party to this stuff. Clinton, there's no argument at all, the black book is there, he did this shit and people covered for him.