Alexis offered to Roma

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Aaron Wan-Bissaka is that type of personality.
AWB is very shy and quiet but by all account a nice, humble lad that everyone likes.

Sanchez is the guy who spent years at Arsenal ripping his team mates to pieces every 2 minutes. Do you really think they are the same?
 

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If we're paying 50% of Sanchez' wages I'd still be happy to get rid of him. He's useless and toxic. Not to mention he's just another player blocking the path of Greenwood, Gomes and Chong into the first team
 

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Geez, the amount of rubbish rumours that emanate from Italy concerning us makes the Daily Express look like a credible source.
I thought the whole point of getting rid was because of the huge wage and yet this one says we are still paying most of his wage so if by some chance he comes good we do not even get the benefit, Yep this one is a pearler!
 

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I never understand heavily subsidising wages to get rid of a player, unless they are a disruptive element in the dressing room.
 

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Sanchez has a bad attitude?
He does, look at his days at Arsenal. He's also not only secluded himself away from team mates at Arsenal, he's done it at United apparently too. Like I said in a previous post, we need a togetherness within the squad, anyone doing their own thing won't be fully committed to the cause and we can't afford that.
 

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From yesterday's presser Ole said Greenwood is expected to feature a lot, I understand this as being a being first teamer. Considering the competition for place I'm not surprised that he will be considered as such.

I understand where you are coming from but even if he features less would his reputation become worse? I mean we can gain more than we can lose here. At least next year he can feck off to China with his reputation being completely finished. Some team would probably take him for a year or two.
If he's going to be crap he might as well do it somewhere other than in our team. If he's going to be good he might as well do it somewhere where he will play regularly and can fully regain his reputation.

Perhaps i'm biased because I hate the sight of him and would like him gone. Maybe if I liked him as a player I'd be clinging on to some dream that he might score 20 goals for us or something. I just don't see it though.

Greenwood will certainly be a first teamer. He will earn his place on merit because he's a brilliant player. As far as I can see we can play Martial, Rashford, Greenwood and even Lingard down the middle before we'd be forced to play Sanchez there. I don't think we need to keep him just to be a 5th option.
 

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Sanchez loaned out guarantees playing time for Greenwood/James/Chong but I'm afraid this decision is a bit too bold. Ole must have seen something quite promising while whatching the lads training.
 

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AWB is very shy and quiet but by all account a nice, humble lad that everyone likes.

Sanchez is the guy who spent years at Arsenal ripping his team mates to pieces every 2 minutes. Do you really think they are the same?
That's totally different to the post I was responding to. Don't be silly.
 

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That's totally different to the post I was responding to. Don't be silly.
Perhaps I misunderstood.

I've never heard of AWB being lonely, just quiet. Nice quiet guys rarely feel lonely in a dressing room because people still like them and include them.

I've always had the impression Sanchez' loneliness was more down to him being a sulky arsehole than just because he was a bit quiet. That's been fairly well documented no?

Either way I don't want to keep being silly so I'll stay out of it.
 

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Roma are idiots to even want to pay half his wages to have him moping in the corner of the dressing room by himself.

Alexis One Man And His Dogs Sanchez should have taken up a sport that isn’t team based.
 

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Its a bit Galling paying half his wage for him to play elsewhere but it's better than paying all his wages for being a sub here
 

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Sanchez loaned out guarantees playing time for Greenwood/James/Chong but I'm afraid this decision is a bit too bold. Ole must have seen something quite promising while whatching the lads training.
Haven't we all seen promising stuff from the likes of Greenwood and Gomes? Not once since he plays for us have I watched Alexis and thought "this is promising".
 

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I’d still rather have him in the club than Lingard.
I'm not Jlingz's biggest fan, because he's a total cnut, but he's still more valuable than Sanchez, who is basically the motivational equivalent of Hitler. And before anyone says it; Hitler loved his dogs as well.
 

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I'm not Jlingz's biggest fan, because he's a total cnut, but he's still more valuable than Sanchez, who is basically the motivational equivalent of Hitler. And before anyone says it; Hitler loved his dogs as well.
Comparing a player to hitler? I’ve seen it all now. Oh and by the way hitler was a very motivational leader, don’t agree with what he was motivating his nation to do but he really got them playing out his agenda.
 

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Comparing a player to hitler? I’ve seen it all now. Oh and by the way hitler was a very motivational leader, don’t agree with what he was motivating his nation to do but he really got them playing out his agenda.
He was good on the counter but really underperformed on home soil.
 

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Rashford, Martial, Jesse, Mata, Greenwood, Gomes, James, and Chong, are basically who we're putting our faith in as our attackers if Sanchez goes as well.

Through blind hope I'm not totally against it, but the first two on the list are going to have improve a massive amount from last season, the next two are proven to be not really good enough to start week in week out, and the last four are just totally unproven at this level.

So if I'm Ole, and know my job is on the line if I don't get top 4, then I'd be looking to keep Sanchez, especially given the midfield situation means he might have to start four of these players in alot of games.
 

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I'm not Jlingz's biggest fan, because he's a total cnut, but he's still more valuable than Sanchez, who is basically the motivational equivalent of Hitler. And before anyone says it; Hitler loved his dogs as well.
If only our players and managers could give motivational speeches like Hitler in the dressing room.
 

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If the whole point is to not have him around then frankly I don’t care if we pay Roma to take him on. Funny how fans get so competitive about every aspect these days. Maybe if we have to pay a club to take a player off our hands it will teach the money men at United to think about worth before handing out these massive contracts. Of course I’m a united fan but really this is a joke!
 

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I never understand heavily subsidising wages to get rid of a player, unless they are a disruptive element in the dressing room.
It only works when you're judging a player's useful contribution as zero, so in effect you're gaining from only paying half the wages etc.

That contract is looking criminal! 3 more years of it. Did they really think he'd be performing at top of world levels at 32-34?
 

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I'm not Jlingz's biggest fan, because he's a total cnut, but he's still more valuable than Sanchez, who is basically the motivational equivalent of Hitler. And before anyone says it; Hitler loved his dogs as well.
A guy who masterminded wiping out 6million people in arguably the worst episode in world history , or a guy who underperforms in what is basically a game.

Yeah - great parallel mate.
 

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Not only has he played disastrously, he's also apparently an insular and mopey character. If he's not performing brilliantly in training, just keep him miles away from the squad.
 

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Comparing a player to hitler? I’ve seen it all now. Oh and by the way hitler was a very motivational leader, don’t agree with what he was motivating his nation to do but he really got them playing out his agenda.
The guy's a clown to even mention him of course.
Along the lines of Godwin's Law.
 

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Not only has he played disastrously, he's also apparently an insular and mopey character. If he's not performing brilliantly in training, just keep him miles away from the squad.
So if he was Ronaldinho, arranging parties and smiling at everyone, he'd be worth keeping?
 

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So if he was Ronaldinho, arranging parties and smiling at everyone, he'd be worth keeping?
"If he's not performing brilliantly in training, just keep him miles away from the squad."

That seems pretty clear? The point is, his personality is also not contributing to the atmosphere or team spirit, which is an additional negative.
 

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"If he's not performing brilliantly in training, just keep him miles away from the squad."

That seems pretty clear? The point is, his personality is also not contributing to the atmosphere or team spirit, which is an additional negative.
Fair enough mate. Didn't know you knew him personally :lol:
 

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This might be unpopular, but give Sanchez another chance.
 

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A guy who masterminded wiping out 6million people in arguably the worst episode in world history , or a guy who underperforms in what is basically a game.

Yeah - great parallel mate.
And they say parody is dead.
 

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If he didnt keep pick up injuries I would believe there is still a player to be had in him, man city's recruitment over the past years has been near perfect, I still find it hard to believe that they would have got it so badly wrong of signing a Sanchez that is supposedly "on his last legs".
 

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Was Sanchez a signing requested by Jose, or was it pushed on him by Ed / Glazers

I remember thinking what a great signing at the time.

But I also remember thinking Cantona was not worth £1.1 million when we signed him.

Shows how little I know
 

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He doesn't fit in with the way Ole wants to go with the team, and has had too many issues keeping himself fit.

Don't think it's neccessarily more complicated than that really. If he was fit and training well I don't see why he wouldn't be given chances to play.
 

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Has he or his representatives said anything about his future in the last few months?

A subsidised loan deal to Roma sounds pretty poor as a solution. If we can't find a buyer before the European window ends (even if we have to subsidise his wages that way) we might give him 2 months to see if he can make positive contributions to the team. If not, the Chinese transfer window re-opens in November which might be an opportunity as they already pay crazy wages and we'd wave a fee. Just whether he'd prefer to be frozen out at Old Trafford to becoming the big star in China for a few years..