Yeah, it's a silence from them that says a lot.
Romelu Lukaku claims he was scapegoated with two other players at Manchester United
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He has some valid points but to say only him, POgba and Sanchez were targetted by fans is plain ridiculous. He is lucky he was not playing for Real madrid or Barca, he would have been booed after every match. I still rate him as a good goal scorer and I think playing for Inter will suit him. Less pressure and a comparatively slower league. I can see him cracking good numbers there. He needs to just shut up and move forward. No point playing the blame game.
I'm not so sure about that, obviously time will tell. Inter is expected to put up a serious title for the league this season and they'll often face low defensive setups which means Lukaku will need to have a good touch and not lose too many balls because his movement off the ball is rubbish so it'll be hard to find him for crosses or through balls.
Sanchez, Lukaku and Pogba got brunt of criticism because they were our 3 star players with all of them making the top 3 of highest earners in our squad. If you're paid like a superstar then you're expected to perform like one, if that doesn't happen then criticism will follow, many times unfair too but that's the nature of their job.
I like Lukaku and think he'll do well at Inter but he thinks far too much of what's being written on him on the Internet.
I like Lukaku and think he'll do well at Inter but he thinks far too much of what's being written on him on the Internet.
Antonio Conte is a top manager and a very shrewd tactician, he's had a hardon for Lukaku for ages so I'm sure he has some sort of plan/setup in his mind to get him firing. I think both are a good fit for Inter and I expect him to put up big numbers in Serie A this season.
Because Lukaku, Pogba and Sanchez either cost the most to purchase or are paid the most, or both. Therefore they should deliver the most. When you don't you get criticised. Pretty fecking obvious!
Never liked him from an aesthetic point myself. I prefer to see elusive forwards in the mould of Bebeto, Henry, Ronaldo, Torres, and foils like Drogba, Firmino. I don't have any animosity towards him, or Di Maria for that matter. Interesting that you mention the PSG game as in the the post match interview, he mentioned that when Rashford asked if he could take the penalty he said "this is your time, go and take it."
- He was the first player to face the media after the embarassing Sevilla defeat, and the last player to leave the pitch after he applauded the fans
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Personally, never wanted him to join Man Utd. Lukaku was entitled to a CL medal in 2012. But he refused it because he felt he hadn't done enough for Chelsea's win.
How about taking some of the criticism on board? I know Moan Utd has a large fanbase, and lot of the sofa experts who never kicked a ball post on here. It’s different in the stadium and the streets of Manchester. But the negativity on here makes me think he has a valid point.
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Conte's style suits him perfectly. I still think had Chelsea got Lukaku ahead of Morata, Conte would still be managing them and Chelsea would have been in a much better and stronger position. Just because social media likes to make fun of him doesn't make him a bad or average striker. He is a goal scorer and he did score 27 goals for us, surely an average striker would not have been able to get that numbers. Truth is he never suited us as our fans preferred players with more flair and he definitely did not fit Ole's plan but similarly he definitely fits Conte's style of football.
Had a sly at Martial it seems. What a grade A twat.
Has to be Martial, right?
Only French player at Utd who didn't go to the World Cup?
Bitter that he's lost his place to him perhaps? Dunno
I do feel that Romelu always had the right attitude playing for us. He just didn't produce, and unfortunately he cannot use his record with the international team as an excuse. You make the best with what you have and he should be the first to admit he could've done better.
This all seems so unnecessary from Lukaku. I understand things didn't work out for him at your club. It made sense for him to move on now he wasn't guaranteed to be in the first 11.
Most United fans seemed not to rate him anymore, so they weren't particularly fussed he was leaving. However while most thought he wasn't good enough, I don't think he was particularly disliked before this summer. Most would probably have wished him well and hoped he done well wherever he went.
Which comes to my point, why then during and after his transfer to Inter does he constantly have digs and potshots at your club and its fans? What does that achieve beside eroding any goodwill or respect your club and fans had for him?
I really don't get when players do this. We had similar case with Koscielny. A few weeks of acting and talking crap to ruin anything good you have done for a few years. Most of it is/was completely unnecessary too.
Most United fans seemed not to rate him anymore, so they weren't particularly fussed he was leaving. However while most thought he wasn't good enough, I don't think he was particularly disliked before this summer. Most would probably have wished him well and hoped he done well wherever he went.
Which comes to my point, why then during and after his transfer to Inter does he constantly have digs and potshots at your club and its fans? What does that achieve beside eroding any goodwill or respect your club and fans had for him?
I really don't get when players do this. We had similar case with Koscielny. A few weeks of acting and talking crap to ruin anything good you have done for a few years. Most of it is/was completely unnecessary too.
First touch of an AT-AT.
If he had have kept his mouth shut most of our fans probably would have looked back fondly on his attitude. He’s just been burning bridge after bridge since July.
Was he like this towards Everton when he joined us? I seem to remember Everton fans being annoyed with him but with the hysteria of signing him I didn't really notice anything he said that would annoy them.
Everton fan's disliked him for the same reasons we did. All talk about how he's too big for Everton and constantly name checking bigger clubs, while having the first touch of a baby elephant.
Is that actually true?
I'd love to ask him about his record against the big clubs and countries
Pogba is clearly scapegoated
I think it is. Haven't seen a single tweet or instagram post about his departure from our players.
Not surprising. He's very consistent in his performances between clubs it has to be said, right down to the goalless runs of games. They must have been absolutely ecstatic to have sold him for £75m.
Yeah sure, let them serve up a shower of shite for us week in and week out and just keep cheering. Sounds delightful. I watch football to be entertained, I grew up with an entertaining Manchester united, i grew an afinity to the brand and consider it my team. Watching that turn to shit is not something i'm happy about and i'll express my opinions on who i hold at fault.
Urgh.
This is purely my opinion not based on fact but more reading between the lines from what players, coaches and rumours have said, but I don't think he was popular in the dressing room. If you arrive at Man Utd for a fee of 75 million, you had better be scoring 25 - 30 goals a season and being the kind of inspirational figure that Cantona, Ronaldo, RVN or even Zlatan was to the team. His comments are unnecessary and just make him seem a bit childish. It didn't work out and he wasn't up to the task. Move on and put it behind you.
I grew up with the Busby side that peaked in 68. We watched an ageing and ailing team end up relegated.
The criticism then was as it is now without social media and Internet forums. If they would have had that back then, I know the abuse the club would have got would have been as vociferous as it is now.
Getting behind the team isn’t the issue, we all still do. It’s expressing a dissatisfaction with the running of things. That hasn’t changed
We don't have that many French players, do we? It's Pogba (who played) or Martial or? Can't see who else would be mentioned there.
All the while I've never thought he showed a bad attitude on the pitch, there's some good examples there of how he did his best for us while he was here. It just soured badly in his second season when he turned up unfit, looked too often to be struggling to do the basics then popping up in the media talking about Serie A. I don't hate the bloke but it's so telling that most of us are happy to see him leave, pleased with recouping the money and looking forward to seeing who we get next. The move has got all the hallmarks of one that works for all parties.Never liked him from an aesthetic point myself. I prefer to see elusive forwards in the mould of Bebeto, Henry, Ronaldo, Torres, and foils like Drogba, Firmino. I don't have any animosity towards him, or Di Maria for that matter. Interesting that you mention the PSG game as in the the post match interview, he mentioned that when Rashford asked if he could take the penalty he said "this is your time, go and take it."
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Only Martial IIRC.
Bit of envy going on though. WTF should it matter to him if French players celebrated? Martial is part or has been part of the squad.
Sounds also like a lot of Belgian-French rivalry
Some of the criticism he got was fair, some over the top. Sanchez deserves every criticism he gets, the guy is being paid an astronomical wage and has been the single worst performing member of the squad since he arrived, there's no excuse whatsoever for that.
Pogba is the United player who receives the most unfair criticism. Yes, he can be inconsistent. But even on his weaker days he's often our most dangerous outfield player. He cops it because people expect him to produce at his top level all the time, the way peak Ronaldo or Messi are able to. But very few players in history have been able to do that, and I don't think anyone could in a team producing as inconsistent form as we have over the last couple of years. We saw in Solskjaer's first few months last season how consistently excellent Pogba can be in a team that are playing well, and hopefully we're going to see that this season too.
Pogba is the United player who receives the most unfair criticism. Yes, he can be inconsistent. But even on his weaker days he's often our most dangerous outfield player. He cops it because people expect him to produce at his top level all the time, the way peak Ronaldo or Messi are able to. But very few players in history have been able to do that, and I don't think anyone could in a team producing as inconsistent form as we have over the last couple of years. We saw in Solskjaer's first few months last season how consistently excellent Pogba can be in a team that are playing well, and hopefully we're going to see that this season too.
He doesn't insinuate French United players, but bloody hell he's pouring his heart out isn't he
The 27 goals he scored weren't that impressive in relation to all the chances. Only 16 in the league, he should have had 35-40 goals overall.
I'm not doubting his ability to score but at a certain level, he is just not cut out for a club with serious title aspirations.
Belgians showed the biggest display of loser attitude after the world Cup, complaining about France's counter attack tactic at each opportunity they were given a mic. All of them acted like little kids, Lukaku included.
They did conveniently forget how they defeated Brazil by utterly being dominated in possession and in chances.
How quickly they forgot their tactics, the whole thing was ridiculous and funny at the same time
How dare a team counter attack, and then when you do it,it's ok?
I remember KDB being a bit sour about it too
I agree with that. I don't think Inter fans and the Italian media will scrutinize him so much as they are not expected to win the title straight away. They will love him if he ends up scoring 25 plus goals for them in all competition. I think this is a good move for him. Moving to Juventus would have been a bad move but Inter is prefect.
KDB, Hazard, Lukaku and Courtois were all complaining about it. The irony was lost on them. They didn't manage to create chances in the semi, unlike Brazil when they played against them.
No bad feelings with Lukaku. We knew who we were getting back then. A guy with a bad first touch, someone who would never be a contender for the golden boot.
He is 1/3 right though, Pogba is made scapegoat here, he has contributed the most yet got criticized the most too.
On the other hand, Sanchez and Lukaku aren't, they have done feck all.
On the other hand, Sanchez and Lukaku aren't, they have done feck all.
You can't have a striker you don't trust will score when he's played through on a 1v1 against the GK. Last season, it was just Valencia, Shaw, Phil Jones and Smalling I would rank below Lukaku as my favored player getting a clear cut chance.
Inter-fans, who used to have one of the best active number 9's in Icardi, will be disappointed when they see how limited Lukaku is. Lukaku got the pace and the strength, but his first touch (when not shooting) is well below par. I can't recall us having a striker with his first touch in 30 years. Lukaku's first touch makes Dirk Kuyt look like Messi.
I couldn't believe we paid as much as we did for him, and now I'm very happy with the money we got back.
Why does he expect the club to deny his departure when he's spending the last six months hinting on Twitter about he's on the move?
Inter-fans, who used to have one of the best active number 9's in Icardi, will be disappointed when they see how limited Lukaku is. Lukaku got the pace and the strength, but his first touch (when not shooting) is well below par. I can't recall us having a striker with his first touch in 30 years. Lukaku's first touch makes Dirk Kuyt look like Messi.
I couldn't believe we paid as much as we did for him, and now I'm very happy with the money we got back.
Why does he expect the club to deny his departure when he's spending the last six months hinting on Twitter about he's on the move?
Blaming rightfully discontent supporters for your own failures ? More and more he's living up to the unfortunate stereotype and what's funny when Mourinho was not accepting United's state of football, he was preaching to the crowd to deal with it like a grown man.
First thing you do after moving to Italy should be showing world how good of a striker you are, right ? Nope. Let's do a butthurt interview after being on huge United contract.
Victim mentality. Glad he's gone, even though I liked his team player attitude at times.
First thing you do after moving to Italy should be showing world how good of a striker you are, right ? Nope. Let's do a butthurt interview after being on huge United contract.
Victim mentality. Glad he's gone, even though I liked his team player attitude at times.
He's somewhat right about Pogba, who gets far more criticism and abuse than is warranted. There are many, especially in the media, who go far overboard with their comments on Pogba. Hell, even Mourinho did the same.
Lukaku and Sanchez on the other hand got off lightly. Because Pogba was there being the figurehead (no matter how unfairly) for the critics, the other two went along with far less criticism despite being far far worse.
Maybe in his first season, although even then I'd say it was really only the first half of that first season where he was fairly good. But that first half of his second season was unbelievably shit, to the extent that I truly believe he was the worst regular starter in the entire league. Rashford, Martial, Lingard and Mata have never been as bad as what he was during that period. Lukaku improved slightly in the second half of the season and even had two or three good games, but consistent is certainly not a word I would have used for him.
Lukaku and Sanchez on the other hand got off lightly. Because Pogba was there being the figurehead (no matter how unfairly) for the critics, the other two went along with far less criticism despite being far far worse.
Really?
Maybe in his first season, although even then I'd say it was really only the first half of that first season where he was fairly good. But that first half of his second season was unbelievably shit, to the extent that I truly believe he was the worst regular starter in the entire league. Rashford, Martial, Lingard and Mata have never been as bad as what he was during that period. Lukaku improved slightly in the second half of the season and even had two or three good games, but consistent is certainly not a word I would have used for him.
That's a good thing for him to have done