Cantina accepting an award as only he would

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Massively unpopular opinion I know but does anybody else find it a little uneasy that he quit us, and playing football, because he was disillusioned with the commercialisation of the game, and then proceeded to become a brand ambassador for Nike - starring in advert after advert for their products?
when did he say that was the reason he quit?
 

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Massively unpopular opinion I know but does anybody else find it a little uneasy that he quit us, and playing football, because he was disillusioned with the commercialisation of the game, and then proceeded to become a brand ambassador for Nike - starring in advert after advert for their products?
Mans got to eat (caviar and Piedmont white truffles)
 

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Amongst all of the predictable platitudes, I think there is a serious issue here. As someone who has worked with the ‘psychologically fragile’ for years, I have concerns about Cantona’s mental well being. He has always been a little ‘on the edge’, but to use a colloquium, he came across as ‘mad as a shithouse rat’ yesterday. I hope that someone is keeping an eye on him. That said, I reckon that he could still hold down a place in our midfield.
 

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Massively unpopular opinion I know but does anybody else find it a little uneasy that he quit us, and playing football, because he was disillusioned with the commercialisation of the game, and then proceeded to become a brand ambassador for Nike - starring in advert after advert for their products?
I don't recall him stating that it was that particular reason.

Here in France, a lot of people (like myself) like Eric Cantona personality but at the same time (still like myself) find him hypocritical in his persona (to the point of somewhat a farce)...

He's one of the biggest Nike ambassador and at the same time he's calling people to get there money out of the bank... While also saying he's openly set for life with money... while doing a documentary on Pasic, Socrates and Mekhloufi etc...

At the end, he's just what we are calling an "alter mondialiste" thinker who happens to work for one of the biggest global company in the world. That don't invalidate what he may say sometimes but definitely we should not take for granted anything he says at the same time.
 

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Amongst all of the predictable platitudes, I think there is a serious issue here. As someone who has worked with the ‘psychologically fragile’ for years, I have concerns about Cantona’s mental well being. He has always been a little ‘on the edge’, but to use a colloquial, he came across as ‘mad as a shithouse rat’ yesterday. I hope that someone is keeping an eye on him. That said, I reckon that he could still hold down a place in our midfield.
I think someone should keep an eye on you too mate.
 

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We’ve picked a bad time to introduce the possibility of immortality.

With the way the planet is headed, I’m out within the next 20 years, thanks all the same.
 

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He's trolling because he knows how it'll be received in such a setting, but he also means every word. It's similar to the Seagulls speech, being dramatic to illustrate a point but that's his character.

People are taking it to seriously saying he's unhinged and wotnot, it's quite coherent. And he's always been eccentric.
 

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The Earl of Gloucester is it? In King Lear. I have a feeling that it’s not coincidental, and that like with the higly meaningful Seagulls, Cantona may well say afterwards that it’s just some spontaneous playfulness.

Gloucester, like his King, is betrayed by the next generation catering to appearances rather than to what’s real. Too late they understand that they’ve been blindly arrogant, and that the one’s who tried to be true to their values, rather than popular amongst the wielders of power, was right.

So why does he quote The Earl in front of the Football Court?
I took it as a dig at the venality of football authorities, and shallow players who don't publicly show concern for the common good of the game & society.
 

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I have heard his speech for about 30 times and I think there's a hidden message in there. Ship Lingard to Italy.
 

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Can someone tell me what they think the message is behind that speech please?
 

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Yes he's quoting Shakespeare, theres a good breakdown of the context of his speech, either on the first page on here or on reddit. I didn't understand what he was saying at first but when I read the breakdown, the speech from Cantina couldn't have been better.
Meh I think that's just edge lords trying to make sense of it. Think cantonas gone for the "say a lot of cryptic things and someone will translate it to meaningful genius "
 

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This is somewhat more coherent than when I heard 'goats kill us for sport'
Pans to Ronaldo and Messi.. He is an ambassador to Juan Mata's charitable donation of wages, Ron/Messi are not. May be overthinking it.

Its an important message at face value in any case.
 

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I took it as a dig at the venality of football authorities, and shallow players who don't publicly show concern for the common good of the game & society.
It’s interesting when he says ‘who are we to the Gods’, because who are ‘the Gods?’ In a football context, one would often look to stars like Messi and Ronaldo as ‘the Gods of the game’, and Cantona himself was nicknamed ‘Dieu’ by the fans. Yet, in a FIFA or UEFA setting, it rather points towards the people making the decisions, the powerful people in the perhaps corrupt Organisations, and the Money wielders from Quatar, China and the US, the recent documentary of Diego Maradona shows how he was more like a fly than a god when push came to shove. And then he invokes the contects of we as humans - both the flies getting swatted by old age and wars, and at the same time ourselves the Gods creating eternal life and wars, accidents and criminality.

Platini was a French football ‘god’ who then ascended to the real Olympus of the UEFA leadership, before criminality (his own and others’ brought him down.

I think Cantona points towards that after ‘God is dead’ as Nietzsche said’, when we in football and society create our own godheads and omniootents, and are unchecked by higher moral values (like joga bonito), it all becomes a back scratching cirkus of nice, politically correct and corruptly rich people, like Edmund the son of Gloucester, and Goneril and Regan, the treacherous daughters of the King.

To put it short, not too far from what you said, but also more complex.

And what does ‘I love football’ mean?
 

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if you play the speech backwards it says 'start Gomes Saturday satan'
:lol:
I also love how so many people are trying to translate this when Cantina himself probably messed around with us thinking 'now let's see how the geniuses find a way to turn this thing I thought of when I was half drunk into a piece of art'.
 

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..and at the same time ourselves the Gods creating eternal life and wars, accidents and criminality.
Reminiscent of the Judge in McCarthy's Blood Meridian.