Agree with you,Ole is only going to pay lip service to the press,he's hardly likely to slag players in public that he want's shifting!
Solskjær press conference vs Southampton (A)
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That might be positive for you as a fan but as a player It most definitely won't fill you with confidence?
Can you Imagine your manager going out and saying yeh Sanchez going (who is below you in the pecking order) stretches us thin.. and the statement " we can always defend on youngsters" that feels like he has no other choice.
Compare it to I want the youngsters to feel the pressure - shows the manager is trusting you in leading this club, he is behind you whole heartedly in public.
That was when he didn't think he was leaving and he was trying to talk up keeping a player he clearly doesn't want.
He's putting a positive spin on the most likely outcome not telling a baying pack of media parasites exactly what he thinks. He's employed by Manchester United. Supporting club decisions in public is his job.
He can put a positive spin without contradicting himself. That's my point and I don't find anything that prevents it. If you feel the line you put in bold would attract negative headlines, even though he said it previously and it didn't, then simply delete it and complete the rest of the quote, and it would still look non contradictory at all to what he said few days, while still positive and it doesn't disagree with anything you said.
I feel he needs to organize his words more in front of the pressers imo. It's all good to be positive but he has to take care of what he is saying so that this contradiction doesn't happen more often than not.
Mate it's easy to criticize after the fact. He did well, Sanchez is out without much fuss and we carry on.
Looking for reasons to criticize that is just being negative.
I think you're being far too critical. He's sitting in front of 20-30 people listening to every word hoping for the slightest slip so they can absolutely hammer him.
He's followed 3 managers who each have had over a decade of top flight managerial experience in major leagues and 2 who have been successful at the highest level of the game and is making them look like absolute amateurs in his dealings with the media.
He's fantastic.
I ll put in the customary "If Jose had said that, he would have been torn to pieces".
This is Man Utd. We don't go somewhere hoping to defend and nick a win.
Is this a manager for the club we support? From the comments on this forum, it does not seem like it.
I don't think anything he can say that will please any fan. It is a presser, lets not get carried away. Pressers are for journalists to spin things, and so far he hasn't fed them anything.
It just seems like there is constant criticism in this forum. What he hasn't done is thrown anyone under the bus. Looks like fans want Ole to come out and say..
Oh what a shit buy that Sanchez was. what was the board thinking paying him that much? I want him out and out now.
The board have not backed me so I will have a shit season.
No he is trying to get on with his job and being positive.
He has little choice. He can either toe the management line or go Jose and get kicked out.
Where did he say that? Mind boggling how people read quotes and come up with the most absurd analysis of them.
He's saying that we have now conceded against both Palace and Wolves. We need to be better defensively against Southampton. That's all he said ffs.
Oh thanks for clarifying that. I didnt know that stronger at the back meant go and nick a result.
Looks like all managers are the same, because every title winning team needs a strong defence.
Man Utd social media fans are a bit woeful at the moment tbh.
I reckon a good title win is the only thing that will get us back in the right frame of mind. It shouldn't have to be like that, but it is.
I was just messing around
This was the usual style on caf for every presser of Jose. I don't really look down at a defensive style of play. It is boring, but if that's what is the need of the hour, I am all for it.
Nothing critical imo. I'm just saying he needs to organize his words more for situations like this. That's all.
Huh? His comments were in context of the two shift goals we conceded last weekend. What's wrong?
Never mind forget it. This forum is going crazy. Other people are criticising the manager for not making derogatory remarks about an outgoing player and for calling players by their first names.
Some of them fans don't deserve a title win tbh. If you cannot support your team when they are in poor times, those fans are not required IF we win something.
The social media fans are always fickle. Many people use the social media to vent their frustrations.
He was joking x
Is it normal that while reading some posts here I have huge desire to scream and shout, even brake something?
Where are my bloody pills?
Where are my bloody pills?
Don't caf and drive! its dangerous
Well I’m massively sceptical about the Ole “project”, but on this I think you’re absolutely right. How about we judge him on the football and the results?
I’m sorry but that comment is weird. He wants clean sheet so that we can build on it and when we score, it gives us 3 pts. It’s no nicking a win or whatever...
We’re a mid table team man, take a look at our squad for crying out loud.
We’ve been a non factor in the league for 6 years now.
We literally don’t have the tools to play PL sides off the park week in week out.
God bless. They are the one section of fan base directly dictating the mood of the players and the managers.
Stop exaggerating, we're nowhere near a midtable team.
Sick of these posts. What are you talking about? Why is this even a thing for you? So he contradicted himself by not giving the press anything and protecting the player/club. Does this really concern you? Its tiresome seeing post after post of whining, take a break from football, sounds like you can't handle it.
We have a severely declining goalie, solid first choice back four, non existent midfield and our entire attack is built on 2 inconsistent forwards, a 17 year old and Daniel James.
Based on our performances over the last 12 months, we are a higher midtable team, you take Pogba off that side and we’re no better than Wolves, Everton or Leicester, we could easily be beaten by every side in the league on any given week.
I’m not even complaining, I do have faith in Ole, but that’s just the reality of things and some people should stop deluding themselves thinking we’re a big team and this is 2011 or something.
"don't use their first names"
"don't protect the clubs interests by sensibly answering press questions to avoid negative headlines"
"he's just a yes man"
He's far from the first manager to use first names. Jose would refer to Sanchez merely as "Chilean" so sure top managers always get it right.
The manager of every club has to do these conferences and every time the press only want one thing, a headline. The managers job is to navigate the conferences in such as way as to give them as little as possible while not causing unrest in the dressing room and deflecting from on the pitch performances either as a team or individuals.
The idea that the manager who finally ships out Fellani and also makes his mind up about some serious "big" players in Lukaku and Sanchez and manages to get them out as well, as well as finally, after 6 fecking years of neglect, get a CB and a RB in same same window is somehow a yes man is madness. It took how long to finally get Fellani out the door? It took how long to actually spend some wedge on a CB and knock Smalling and Jones down the pecking order? It looks like Darmian might be out too. All things that should have been done at least 2 seasons earlier than they have been and he's managed to do it (apart from Rooney) in under a year.
Half of our issue has been Woodward putting crazy values on players that are already on crazy money. It even feels a little like Ole has told him to stop pissing around and get rid. We might even be getting shot of Darmian! We got Maguire a year after deciding he was too expensive. Who do you think convinced Woodward to spend (even more) to actually do it?
"don't protect the clubs interests by sensibly answering press questions to avoid negative headlines"
"he's just a yes man"
He's far from the first manager to use first names. Jose would refer to Sanchez merely as "Chilean" so sure top managers always get it right.
The manager of every club has to do these conferences and every time the press only want one thing, a headline. The managers job is to navigate the conferences in such as way as to give them as little as possible while not causing unrest in the dressing room and deflecting from on the pitch performances either as a team or individuals.
The idea that the manager who finally ships out Fellani and also makes his mind up about some serious "big" players in Lukaku and Sanchez and manages to get them out as well, as well as finally, after 6 fecking years of neglect, get a CB and a RB in same same window is somehow a yes man is madness. It took how long to finally get Fellani out the door? It took how long to actually spend some wedge on a CB and knock Smalling and Jones down the pecking order? It looks like Darmian might be out too. All things that should have been done at least 2 seasons earlier than they have been and he's managed to do it (apart from Rooney) in under a year.
Half of our issue has been Woodward putting crazy values on players that are already on crazy money. It even feels a little like Ole has told him to stop pissing around and get rid. We might even be getting shot of Darmian! We got Maguire a year after deciding he was too expensive. Who do you think convinced Woodward to spend (even more) to actually do it?
More exaggeration.
You’re right we’re great.
Good day mister
feck me, I want that desk.
I like this. Having a Zlatan around can never be a bad thing IMO. He is a born winner
It's like Batman's pencil case.
I stopped reading at " severely declining goalie
Relax. Not quite sure I understand your sentence, but relax. (divorced from reality...ffs...)
Love this post.
I wonder what you thought about the possibility of signing Dybala?
Clearly your not a fan of Manutd?
A top 4 that is probably 3rd best in the league.
One of the best goalkeepers in the world
One of the most talented players in Paul Pogba
I don't know if you realised, this is the Premier League, where any team can beat anyone on a given day. It's fans like you who think that losing to Wolves is the end of the world.
We have had 1 terrible season but finished 6th not far from 4th.
You're missing my point. I have not stated that he should be negative, I have not said that at all. But I want him (Ole..) to be more of who HE is. These bland presss conferences, post-match interviews... they don't say much to me at all. This is a public forum (if I recall..) and I am surely entitled to an observation and opinion. I haven't a clue what Ole stands for, and I have provided examples of other managers, where, I personally feel, it is quite clear what they stand for, how they work, what they expect from players.... look at Enrique at Barca (before he had to leave, how sad is that story...).. or Conte at Chelsea, now Inter.. even Sarri for a season... all of these immediately evoked a personality that embodies their football... I just do not see this is Ole. Many may say it isn't important, but I personally think how one thinks, reflects upon on how one may act and behave... and if Ole's press conference, and post-match blurb is anything to go by, then I am not quite sure what I can pick up from him. Yes, he say's all the right things.
And that's my point. It's without character or meaning, and I find that worrying.