Jose Mourinho joins Sky Sports

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Why does everyone respond with sarcastic shit like this. With the team we have had and the years before and after it, it’s a good season. I am comparing it to these years and the expectations in these seasons. When has anyone ever said it compared to our title winning seasons?
 

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Any need to use bollocks twice in the same paragraph? We exited the champions league very early whilst most of the other teams that would have been challenging went deep in both European competitions.
We were still second whilst we was in Europe. We also remained in the FA cup till the end. We didn’t finish second because wveryone else was concerned with Europe, we finished second because of our excellent home form and victories in the big games. You are talking even more bollocks.
 

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Him and Roy were both great yesterday. Unfortunately for us every word he said was true.
 

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Never in a million years is he going to Everton.
Why? They have loads of cash now and some very good players being badly managed.

I could definitely see him going there. No bigger club will touch him again until he repairs his reputation a bit.
 

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We were still second whilst we was in Europe. We also remained in the FA cup till the end. We didn’t finish second because wveryone else was concerned with Europe, we finished second because of our excellent home form and victories in the big games. You are talking even more bollocks.
The end to the previous season when we finished 6th we were mid table in the form table.

why? Because Jose decided to concentrate on Europe.

Fast forward one year you don’t think any other manager took the same approach especially Liverpool who went all to the way the final and arsenal to the semis?

Just Jose the genius then I guess, can’t have it both ways.
 

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Why? They have loads of cash now and some very good players being badly managed.

I could definitely see him going there. No bigger club will touch him again until he repairs his reputation a bit.
Size of the club is too small, it would take years to build the club up in order to fight for top 4 and during that period they'd struggle against managers he dislikes.

He's waiting for someone to get sacked at a big enough club in Spain or Italy
 

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You responding with that video is a snapshot of people failing to understand the tactics and game plans throughout that second season. We reached 81 points because of Mourinho and how he used the players.
But before the season started he said he was equipped to challenge for the title...

How is it an achievement if he can't even meet his own targets?
 

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Just about everybody knows Mourinho wanted to sign Maguire last year but the board denied his request. And just about everybody knows he was going for less last year. Maguire came a year later for more money.
Well I’m sure the reason we didn’t get him the previous year was because of the price, don’t see why they would pay £20 million more the following year.
 

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Just about everybody knows Mourinho wanted to sign Maguire last year but the board denied his request. And just about everybody knows he was going for less last year. Maguire came a year later for more money.
Why would the price be lower after the World Cup ?

But yes, he did want to sign Maguire.
 

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Why would the price be lower after the World Cup ?

But yes, he did want to sign Maguire.
The VVD transfer made Leicester really ramp up their price. That was well documented.
 

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The end to the previous season when we finished 6th we were mid table in the form table.

why? Because Jose decided to concentrate on Europe.

Fast forward one year you don’t think any other manager took the same approach especially Liverpool who went all to the way the final and arsenal to the semis?

Just Jose the genius then I guess, can’t have it both ways.
We were 2nd the entire season. We finished 2nd because we deserved to. It was just that at the time, people really deluded themselves into thinking we had players better than that. They were obviously very, very wrong.
 

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The VVD transfer made Leicester really ramp up their price. That was well documented.
He joined Liverpool in the January transfer window in the 17/18 season. Essentially half a year prior to Mourinho wanting to sign Maguire.
 

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We were 2nd the entire season. We finished 2nd because we deserved to. It was just that at the time, people really deluded themselves into thinking we had players better than that. They were obviously very, very wrong.
Well I wanted Jose out in February after that Sevilla shambles so I wasn’t deluding myself.
 

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I'm not anti Scottish, I just wanted Moyes out.

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Mourinho is 56? Nearing 60 already? Wow, I thought he'd be around 50.
 

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Mourinho is 56? Nearing 60 already? Wow, I thought he'd be around 50.
He looked about 65 when he left us, do you remember the picture of him when he joined versus leaving. It would make me think I don’t need this if I’ve got north of £50 million in the bank :lol:
 

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Well I wanted Jose out in February after that Sevilla shambles so I wasn’t deluding myself.
Fair enough if that’s what you wanted. This thread is about him on Sky so this is a good place to end this conversation.
 

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Because City were out of this world, come on!
That's not answering the question. We already know what happened. Let's try again:

Why is second place an achievement for Jose, if he felt his target of challenging for the title was attainable yet he failed to do so?
 

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That says we made a bid. The other article says that Leicester would have accepted 70.
It certainly doesn't, the headline even states "prepare", which is pure speculation

And it certainly doesn't fecking state that they would have accepted 70

United approached Leicester this week and will not be easily dissuaded but it could take an eye-watering offer of more than £70 million

Why do you have this desire to keep spouting bullshit ?

The only thing the newspapers seem to agree on is that we approached Leicester about his availability and that's it.
 

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He joined Liverpool in the January transfer window in the 17/18 season. Essentially half a year prior to Mourinho wanting to sign Maguire.
I’m sure the price was similar the year before but we baulked at it, this one is saying £75m rejected because they wanted more

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...s-Harry-Maguire-Leicester-City-gossip-rumours
Yeah, I remember that. Can't remember whether that was pre or post Jose wanting him though. £80m was a lot of money but feck it.
 

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That's not answering the question. We already know what happened. Let's try again:

Why is second place an achievement for Jose, if he felt his target of challenging for the title was attainable yet he failed to do so?
1. What was he supposed to say? It was pre-meltdown and the team WAS sort of capable of a title challenge, but you can’t budget on a team like City having an amazing season like that.

2. It’s an achievement because of the previous and latter league positions, it’s not that difficult to see.

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Which one stands out?
 

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It certainly doesn't, the headline even states "prepare", which is pure speculation

And it certainly doesn't fecking state that they would have accepted 70

United approached Leicester this week and will not be easily dissuaded but it could take an eye-watering offer of more than £70 million

Why do you have this desire to keep spouting bullshit ?

The only thing the newspapers seem to agree on is that we approached Leicester about his availability and that's it.
My god you are so annoying.

In this article

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ojo-manchester-united-prepare-huge-bid-harry/

United approached Leicester this week and will not be easily dissuaded but it could take an eye-watering offer of more than £70 million - close to the world record £75 million fee Liverpool paid Southampton

And this article

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...s-Harry-Maguire-Leicester-City-gossip-rumours

The Telegraph say that Leicester would have wanted around £75million to release their star man

Why is it so fecking hard for you to accept that Mourinho wanted him last year and that he went for more this year.
 

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My god you are so annoying.

In this article

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ojo-manchester-united-prepare-huge-bid-harry/

United approached Leicester this week and will not be easily dissuaded but it could take an eye-watering offer of more than £70 million - close to the world record £75 million fee Liverpool paid Southampton

And this article

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...s-Harry-Maguire-Leicester-City-gossip-rumours

The Telegraph say that Leicester would have wanted around £75million to release their star man

Why is it so fecking hard for you to accept that Mourinho wanted him last year and that he went for more this year.
While i can certainly understand that it's annoying that you have to look for articles to back up the bullshit you post, i can hardly say i have much sympathy.

And no one has argued that Mourinho didn't want him in 2018.

This is your claim:

Well the bids we made last summer were much lower than what we paid for him this summer
So you can't find a single article to actually back up your claim that we made bids, as in more than one, or even a bid at all. All you can find is a newspaper claim that we approached Leicester and asked about his availability and that they would want around £75mill, which is around £5mill less than what we agreed (with future installations depending on set conditions) in 2019. Around £5mill less sure as feck isn't much lower, it's the equivalent of feck all given the inflation in transfer fees.
 

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1. What was he supposed to say? It was pre-meltdown and the team WAS sort of capable of a title challenge, but you can’t budget on a team like City having an amazing season like that.
You mean the meltdown he was responsible for? I don't understand why that absolves him of his targets.

And yes what City did was an achievement, based on expectations, but I don't see what that has to do with Mourinho failing to meet his. He thought heading into the 2017/18 season his team was equipped to challenge (not even win). United didn't challenge for the title so his expectations weren't even met. Perhaps you can say he did ok, given how good City was, but to label it some great achievement is disingenuous. He didn't even meet his minimum targets let alone exceed them. Let that sink in.


2. It’s an achievement because of the previous and latter league positions, it’s not that difficult to see.

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Which one stands out?
I mean this is a completely arbitrary measuring stick. The minimum goal was to challenge, not to finish second, 16 points adrift while getting dumped out of Europe by Sevilla.
 

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1. What was he supposed to say? It was pre-meltdown and the team WAS sort of capable of a title challenge, but you can’t budget on a team like City having an amazing season like that.

2. It’s an achievement because of the previous and latter league positions, it’s not that difficult to see.

7
4
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Which one stands out?
Do you not agree the sixth before the 2nd was due to the focus put on winning the europa? We took 10 points from the last 18, just seems to me that it makes the jump from 6th to 2nd more impressive than it really is.