Bollocks, we'd have even more pensioners here and Mou being Mou would still be moaning about everyone being shit and needing more money. Not letting Mourinho buy and sell who he wanted was the 2nd best decision Woodward has made during his time here.
In January, it will be that Woodward no longer has any faith in solskjaer to spend his money, but won't sack him either till the summer. Proceed ad infinitum. The conditions for any manager to succeed are stacked against him.
Bollocks, we'd have even more pensioners here and Mou being Mou would still be moaning about everyone being shit and needing more money. Not letting Mourinho buy and sell who he wanted was the 2nd best decision Woodward has made during his time here.
Oh come on. I have been and I am still a 'self respecting' United fan and I like Jose. Why people keep thinking you cannot be a true or self respectingUnited fan and like him baffles me really. I have replayed his comments after Sevilla. He (as is often his weakness) was overly emotional and egoistic but he was bang on point. The truth, like they say, is bitter. We are a great club but let's not kid ourselves, we are not the club we used to be at the moment. and the first requirement for getting back to where we belong, is to get real about where we are right now.
We paid 30 mill a piece for Linderof and Bailly, how i look at it we would of got Maguire for 60 to 65 mill last summer, this would of allowed Jose to move on Phil Jones, Bailly, Darmian, Rojo thus offsetting the cost to Maguires purchases.
To be fair, there are two main aspects to making that change. One is getting the players we have more used to and suited to that style. Even Pep and Klopp took 12-18 months to fully make that change.
Seen as his average stint is 3 years or less that is a flawed plan then.
Give it a bit of time, it's still only September, it could get pretty fecking ugly very soon.
True, but the difference is there are some positives under Ole, there were none with Jose, and we had to deal with his general disgusting mood too. Ole I'm sick of hearing from as he just sounds like a robot, but he doesn't make me want to kill myself.
"A mourinho in full charge would have at least created a coherent team identity, with a squad of players pulling in the same direction and responding to coaching and tactics."
The positives are already drowning in the pile of nonsense and it's only september. And I'm not sure why so many of you were bothered by Jose mood when he simply wasn's happy with what is happening, while give Ole the pass. If something stinks you get the shit out from under the carpet, and not play the fans for fools.
How was we getting Maguire for £60-£65 million the year before
Same.
Jose acted like he wanted to be anywhere else from day one, he never seemed happy at the club. It was painful to watch, even though some of his frustrations were fair.
Sort of. My point was that the main villain here really is Woodward.
Do you read the Caf at all? Everyone agrees with this.
I don't disagree with anything you said but tell me one thing, did we not know all of this would occur when we hired Mourinho in the first place? When has he preferred to develop youth instead of relying on experienced veterans to execute his ideas? Why would he change his methods at United?
Save for few idiots, no one would deny that Woodward in large part triggered Mourinho's meltdown. There was no logical reasoning to renewing his contract mid-way through the season, that could've been visited during May and if the board (Woodward) felt that we weren't heading in the right direction he should've been sacked right then. Woodward picked the worst possible combo, not only did he give him another year (hence a larger pay packet when sacked) but he pissed a whole season by overruling his targets. I absolutely despise that snake, 4 managers would've failed under his tenure here.
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At the time those were good signings.
I took loads of flak for actually saying so at the time. That summer the winds were mainly in the "at least woodward is doing damage control" on here.
did anyone actually see him say this? For obvious reasons I turned off the TV as soon as the football finished
Oh I agree. People here definitely deluded themsleves into thinking he would change. And maybe so did he and the management. But the fact is, Mourinho didn't do Mourinho well either.
But hes not wrong to be fair.
Yep he did. Though it was more along the lines of "I probably deserved to be sacked because I was the manager and the manager takes responsibility" than "I probably deserved to be sacked because I did a bad job".
I dont think he could do any better with the players at his disposal yesterday. But narcissistic as he is, he always thinks he s right,even though the rot started long before Ole took over
You can see the little smile creeping in from the sides as he's talking.
I don't agree about that first sentence. I think he came on very eager and realizing that it's a great opportunity for him to establish a legacy at one of the biggest clubs in the world. Of course I don't excuse the many mistakes he made during his time here, but somewhere along the line he clearly lost the patience with what is happening above him and it all went downhill after that.
Looks like he's about to explode laughing but contains himself in the first few seconds. He has been a factor (not the only one) of our demise.
Only saw the pre match jibber jabber and I heard him say twice “I agree with what Roy just said”. Big wussI loved the fact that Keane was saying how bad the recruitment has been in the last 3 years to Mourinho's face. Jose actually seemed a bit scared to say anything against Keano and always agreed to his points.
Wish someone had presence of mind to ask him, why did he sign Lindelof when he was poor header of the ball.I loved the fact that Keane was saying how bad the recruitment has been in the last 3 years to Mourinho's face. Jose actually seemed a bit scared to say anything against Keano and always agreed to his points.
Not really.
