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Premier League Gameweek 8

Alabaster Codify7

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Fecking west ham looked like Barcelona against us, either we are very sh*t or West ham are game raising cnuts.

We are shit.

Why would guys like Issa Diop see United as 'the big one' that they raise their game for? It's 2019, we haven't been a big deal since 2013 - nobody is raising their game for United in 2019. People raise their game for City and Liverpool
 

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Searched Mane dive and there are so many results and videos. It's clear that Klopp coaches his team to cheat in situations like those.
 

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We are shit.

Why would guys like Issa Diop see United as 'the big one' that they raise their game for? It's 2019, we haven't been a big deal since 2013 - nobody is raising their game for United in 2019. People raise their game for City and Liverpool
Naive
 

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We are shit.

Why would guys like Issa Diop see United as 'the big one' that they raise their game for? It's 2019, we haven't been a big deal since 2013 - nobody is raising their game for United in 2019. People raise their game for City and Liverpool
still going around the forum being miserable, negative and a general joy to be around I see.
 

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So if Man United win tomorrow (a big if in current form) they could be 6th and just 2 points off 4th. Am i alone in thinking this is a very mediocre Premier league?
Cant believe we are still in short for top 4. If we can get our act together and win some matches, we could well be in top 4 .
 

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When are we playing Brighton?

We should aspire to look like them, especially when you see how they retain possession and move the ball.
It is playing out of the press that defeated Spurs, at least got the dominance, which requires technique from individual players. Then the Spurs main strength is nullified. Then the first bit of self destruction and two opportunist goals and game over. The southern clubs tend to do this with varying degrees of success. Not everything as Fulham found out last season, but BHA have a better defence than them.

The inquest on Spurs now begins. They appear to have stagnated a bit. It might include BHA v Spurs at academy level as well as BHA second string academy beat Spurs 4-1 recently.

Seeing the match live it seemed more one-sided than on TV. Spurs were chasing shadows for over an hour.
 

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What a shock there was no mention by MOTD panel of that potential red card for Alexander Arnold yet they couldn't show a replay of that tackle on Salah quick enough.
 

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Man United and man city don't think it's a penalty but liverpool fan do. In conclusion, you can not tackle like this in the box, it's a penalty.
Spurs fans also felt it wasn't a pen.
 

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What a shock there was no mention by MOTD panel of that potential red card for Alexander Arnold yet they couldn't show a replay of that tackle on Salah quick enough.
They cant wait to wet themselves if and when Liverpool win the league.
 

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Do find it funny that Spurs fans who watch us week in week out, know the club and it’s players better than anyone .. get told we’re wrong about important issues at the club by people who probably watch us now and again.

Our fans are pretty much united in believing he’s done here based on what we have seen over a long period of time. Maybe pay attention to that??
Fanbases tend to be emotional and rely on no reason whatsoever.
When we wanted Mourinho out, many opposition fans had a more holistic view of things, less emotional. Doesn't make them more knowledgeable on all things United, but they can be objective-is.
Hence why rival fans are appreciated on here even if u get the pisc taken out of you every once in a while
 

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Not sure how to take this as many people, including me, consider Mother Theresa to be a cnut. If that’s how you meant it I’ll take it as a compliment.
If you can't understand that then take it as a compliment dear as you said ..........
 
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The fact that you think VAR is competent and impartial renders your opinion useless to me. Have you seen the number of poor calls made through out the season? Laporte one, David Silva, Martial, even Liverpool had one just to name a few. They will not overrule the onfield ref until there is a mistaken identity or there is absolutely no contact at all.
I used to blame the refs all the time when Liverpool were shit too. The fact is that there is no grand conspiracy, and VAR gets far more right than wrong.
 

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I used to blame the refs all the time when Liverpool were shit too. The fact is that there is no grand conspiracy, and VAR gets far more right than wrong.
Good teams create more opportunities for officials to get decisions wrong. For example, when we were at our peak, people used to allege we got soft penalty decisions because the refs were terrified of Fergie. The truth is - quite often we'd create a few decent shouts for a penalty per game, and doing that often leads to the referee eventually awarding you one.

If you're a crap team that rarely gets into the opposition box, then maybe once in every 4-5 matches you venture far enough into the opposition penalty area to appeal for a spot kick. The odds are the referee will turn it down, because more often than not referees look for a reason to avoid giving a big decision like that. Now maybe 5 of the last 6 penalty appeals we may have had when we were at our peak under Fergie were turned down, but we kept knocking repeatedly enough to eventually get the answer we wanted.
 

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We are shit.

Why would guys like Issa Diop see United as 'the big one' that they raise their game for? It's 2019, we haven't been a big deal since 2013 - nobody is raising their game for United in 2019. People raise their game for City and Liverpool
Nope

'People' are beaten in the tunnel when they play City and Liverpool, they're not achievable scalps us on the other hand 100% are
 

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I love all the complaining about the refs, media ,luck and generally anything you can think that is helping Liverpool. It makes the victories so much sweeter.
 

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I used to blame the refs all the time when Liverpool were shit too. The fact is that there is no grand conspiracy, and VAR gets far more right than wrong.
What does United being shit have to do with anything? I've been a detractor of the current use of VAR in the PL since day 1 and citing it a source of impartiality and objectiveness is plain stupid. They never dare overrule the on field ref's decision. There's no right or wrong with VAR in the PL, they just don't do anything. Sit and watch like a spectator.
 

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Good teams create more opportunities for officials to get decisions wrong. For example, when we were at our peak, people used to allege we got soft penalty decisions because the refs were terrified of Fergie. The truth is - quite often we'd create a few decent shouts for a penalty per game, and doing that often leads to the referee eventually awarding you one.

If you're a crap team that rarely gets into the opposition box, then maybe once in every 4-5 matches you venture far enough into the opposition penalty area to appeal for a spot kick. The odds are the referee will turn it down, because more often than not referees look for a reason to avoid giving a big decision like that. Now maybe 5 of the last 6 penalty appeals we may have had when we were at our peak under Fergie were turned down, but we kept knocking repeatedly enough to eventually get the answer we wanted.
Would you say the same about peak City? Peak Chelsea? Invincibles Arsenal?

Never felt luck was crucial to their successes apart from maybe couple of games a season. They were just too good. However with Pool, it feels a bit different and I can't explain how.
 

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I love all the complaining about the refs, media ,luck and generally anything you can think that is helping Liverpool. It makes the victories so much sweeter.
Whats funny is Liverpool still haven't won a PL title. If you don't win it this year, it's hard to see when you actually will.
 

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Would you say the same about peak City? Peak Chelsea? Invincibles Arsenal?

Never felt luck was crucial to their successes apart from maybe couple of games a season. They were just too good. However with Pool, it feels a bit different and I can't explain how.
All teams need a bit of luck to go on crazy winning runs, regardless of how good they are.

Not to the same extent though. Best United teams were famous for winning it late in the game, and City had a run of last minute goals two seasons ago. Chelsea in 16/17 is an example of team that got even more fortunate and hugely overachieved, accumulating enormous amount of points without ever looking really dominant.

But this Liverpool thing is something unseen before. While Chelsea eventually crashed the next season, Liverpool's run doesn't seem to stop. And for all their overachieving, Chelsea never got this many gifts from opposition in key moments.
 

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Whats funny is Liverpool still haven't won a PL title. If you don't win it this year, it's hard to see when you actually will.
Yeah I do worry that if we don't win it this year we might miss our golden opportunity. Man City are just so good that I still expect them to pip us to it again this season. I doubt we will keep this form going for 3 season on the trot.
 

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I love all the complaining about the refs, media ,luck and generally anything you can think that is helping Liverpool. It makes the victories so much sweeter.
You do seem much more relient on desicions going your way than City. A lot of margins going your way.
 

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What a shock there was no mention by MOTD panel of that potential red card for Alexander Arnold yet they couldn't show a replay of that tackle on Salah quick enough.
I thought that was a straight red personally. Only saw one replay so I don't know if he slipped into that challenge. But VAR needed to be more certain. Can he be retrospectively banned or is it now not possible?
 

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We are shit.

Why would guys like Issa Diop see United as 'the big one' that they raise their game for? It's 2019, we haven't been a big deal since 2013 - nobody is raising their game for United in 2019. People raise their game for City and Liverpool
Teams will always raise their game for United no matter how far they fall. The difference is they don’t have to raise it that much at this moment in time. That’s what makes all the glory years all the more impressive- every team was out to beat United. And they still are. A team saying they’ve beaten Liverpool or City certainly doesn’t carry the same weight even now.
 

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I thought that was a straight red personally. Only saw one replay so I don't know if he slipped into that challenge. But VAR needed to be more certain. Can he be retrospectively banned or is it now not possible?
No idea what the rules are now regarding being retrospectively banned. The Leicester boys on England duty will not be happy with him though.
 

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Chelsea fans must be very excited over this new concept of actually starting talented youth players.

That is an exciting looking team, to be fair.