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Woodward is in charge of recruitment.He is a finance guy.
He never meddle with footballing side other than choosing the manager.
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Woodward is in charge of recruitment.He is a finance guy.
He never meddle with footballing side other than choosing the manager.
The first point is just defeatist. United are still a big club with a budget that matches most clubs in the world, good physical infrastructure and a huge fan base playing in a great league. That's a very attractive proposition. Good managers dont doubt their own ability, plenty of them would relish the challenge of putting United back at the top.Ask yourself this, which good manager would even be willing to come to this steaming pile of shit? And that's before we even look at the names that are currently in vogue. Each and every one of them have their own issues and carry with them concerns over whether they are a good fit for us.
So he gets the credit for AWB, Maguire and James?Woodward is in charge of recruitment.
United are sleepwalking to something perhaps inconceivably bad. This is ineptitude on an extraordinary scale. Given all the advantages that wealth gives the top clubs in the modern age, given the insulation they enjoy from serious consequences, given United are both the most successful side in league history and the richest club by revenue in the country, it is staggering that at this stage, more than a fifth of the way through the season, they should lie just two points above the relegation zone, appalling they could produce a performance so devoid of quality, of enthusiasm, of a plan.
Stockholm Syndrome, methinks mate...Have you forgotten his final season in charge where he systematically ate the club alive as he engineered his departure?
The man was a disgrace to the club. Quite how our fans talk of him in a positive light is beyond my understanding.
But apparently that's some sort of plan, rebuild or whatever the fek.Agree with this passage here from Jonathan Wilson in The Guardian
I take it as a no then.Well it's 1. It's delusion to say that we p"would've gone on to score another goal or 2" when we've done it once so far this season
Yes, because you simply can't have a rebuild plan and have your team in a respectable position on the table, at the same time. Three years of relegation form under ole, while the rebuild plan is in motion.But apparently that's some sort of plan, rebuild or whatever the fek.
I didn't say that. I mean I don't buy there's a plan of any sort. That what Ed wants us to think. Just as looking at dof right after Jose was sacked.Yes, because you simply can't have a rebuild plan and have your team in a respectable position on the table, at the same time. Three years of relegation form under ole, while the rebuild plan is in motion.
I think they will give it 4-5 more games yet unfortunately.Nothing on social media yet that he’s gone? Are the club going to drag this inevitable for another two weeks before we get shafted again?
The only reasonable explanation is that they want Ole to get torn apart by Liverpool so that the new manager doesn't have to deal with it as his first match. As clueless as Woodward is, I refuse to believe he still hopes Ole could turn this relegation form around.Nothing on social media yet that he’s gone? Are the club going to drag this inevitable for another two weeks before we get shafted again?
Take a no for what then?I take it as a no then.
Hard to believe people with this opinion are for real.He isn't the problem, and sacking him won't make any difference. The Glazers are the problem.
Yes for all the good and bad clearly he is involved in some way. I imagine he brings ole a shortlist and he agrees to them. He then tries his best to get them.So he gets the credit for AWB, Maguire and James?
I find it hard to believe that anyone wouldn't have this opinion (except I know football supporters aren't great at seeing the forest for the trees). We're tried world class managers. They failed too. Did you not notice?Hard to believe people with this opinion are for real.
True that! This why Ole has to go now. Otherwise, it will affect our pulling power in the transfer market.That happened earlier: the moment Moyes was appointed.
The appointment announced to the world that we’d be happy with third or fourth. Nobody expected us to finish 7th though.
That doesn’t make any sense either.I find it hard to believe that anyone wouldn't have this opinion (except I know football supporters aren't great at seeing the forest for the trees). We're tried world class managers. They failed too. Did you not notice?
Now I agree that sacking Ole may bring a string of good results for a few months. Then we'll be right back where we started. If you want to start building success, it has to be done at the DoF level. And we need owners who actually want to win stuff.
I can't agree with that mate, or at least that is the board not Woodward. Woodward who vetoed the Maguire transfer last year bringing him as a shortlist this year makes little sense if you ask me.Yes for all the good and bad clearly he is involved in some way. I imagine he brings ole a shortlist and he agrees to them. He then tries his best to get them.
You can say ole decided well this window which is great, but we can’t rely on a manager just being good at transfers.
So trying two top class managers who didn't work out must mean all well qualified managers are now out the picture?I find it hard to believe that anyone wouldn't have this opinion (except I know football supporters aren't great at seeing the forest for the trees). We're tried world class managers. They failed too. Did you not notice?
Now I agree that sacking Ole may bring a string of good results for a few months. Then we'll be right back where we started. If you want to start building success, it has to be done at the DoF level. And we need owners who actually want to win stuff.
Have you seen Chong play this season? If he is the answer, I don't want to know the question.Although I'm on Ole's side and I like him, I have one question: How bad does Perreira have to play in order for him to be dropped for someone who has prospect, like Greenwood, Gomes, Chong etc?
Then, I have to question his stance to our form. If I don't see the manager fuming out of his ears after performances like that, I tend to think they're a bit deluded or way too defensive.
Spot onEnd of the day the club will not be returning anywhere close to past glories under the Glazers and Woodward. Doesn't matter who the manager is. The culture is set by the board, and the board haven't a clue. We are f*cked. All I can do is support the team and manager, that's how I chose to go out.
Its really not.Made a comparison with AC Milan giving Inzaghi the job but this is going even worse sadly.
Pretty sure Rashford has been playing half fit.Ole keeps saying that the injuries have affected our attack. Apart from Pogba and Martial who else is out that would have made a difference to our attack? Lingard? He has to be taking the piss.
Even if those 2 come back, you’ll still see us play a shit player on the right (Mata/Pereira) and a shit player in the crucial number 10 role (Lingard/Mata). Oh and not to mention Rashy on the left even though he’s been shit and James should start over him.
He’s still shit half or fully fit.Pretty sure Rashford has been playing half fit.
Oh give over. It’s not as if it’s just been a few poor results. Even if we were in 8th and playing semi decent football, the fans would be having patience. What we’re seeing right now is a different monster altogether and if you can’t see that you’re downright delusional.It’s literally a waste of time this
Every single season we fans promise that we will get behind the manager, that we understand that there are no quick fixes and that we need to be patient
Literally the minute we start getting the inevitable bad results the fans turn
Remember - this time last year this forum turned on Jose, just like it had turned on LvG beforehand.
“Oh but it’s different this time” I hear every time. “This manager really is incompetent”. Shortly thereafter they inevitably get booted out and we start again
Not saying Ole is the answer but Ole certainly isn’t the problem either. When will you people learn. You get what you deserve honestly most of you