That pretty much nails Mandzukic as true then.
Solskjaer's interview with Neville
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You could see Rooney was a beast the moment he signed there was no doubts about him whatsoever.
I agree with most of what Solskjaer said.
The only stuff I didn't like hearing was about how Rashford can play every attacking position and then later he talked about Tuanzebe being able to play all defensive positions plus midfield.
It's blatantly obvious to me that Rashford really struggles when constantly moved from forward to left wing to forward to left wing again and we've harmed his development as a player by doing this for so many years. He needs to be given one spot in the team and kept there as much as possible and the same goes for Tuanzebe. Already against Newcastle we saw him having a good game at centre back and then suddenly he's shifted across to right back. Greenwood is a striker but Solskjaer has regularly used him as a right winger, Gomes is a #10 who has been used on the left. And look at Pereira, he was highly regarded as a youth player as an attacking midfielder but last season we wanted him to be a defensive midfielder and this season we want him to be our right winger. It feels like we go out of our way nowadays to make it as hard as possible for a youth player to master a position.
I remember when the class of 92 came through and they were all consistently (as in more than 90% of their games) played in their best positions. Giggs on the left, Beckham on the right, Scholes as an attacking midfielder, Neville at right back, Butt as a defensive midfielder. Phil Neville is the exception as he was asked to play both full back positions and defensive midfielder and the result was he never mastered any of them. If that same generation came through now I feel like Giggs would be asked to play as a striker, Beckham at full back, Scholes as a left winger etc, would they have ended up reaching the heights they did? It seems doubtful to me.
Obviously this is not to say that players should never be played out of position and that giving a young player some games in unfamiliar positions is always a bad thing. I don't think that. However I do think we go to far in seemingly trying to develop every player into a versatile jack of all trades. Am I alone in thinking this?
The only stuff I didn't like hearing was about how Rashford can play every attacking position and then later he talked about Tuanzebe being able to play all defensive positions plus midfield.
It's blatantly obvious to me that Rashford really struggles when constantly moved from forward to left wing to forward to left wing again and we've harmed his development as a player by doing this for so many years. He needs to be given one spot in the team and kept there as much as possible and the same goes for Tuanzebe. Already against Newcastle we saw him having a good game at centre back and then suddenly he's shifted across to right back. Greenwood is a striker but Solskjaer has regularly used him as a right winger, Gomes is a #10 who has been used on the left. And look at Pereira, he was highly regarded as a youth player as an attacking midfielder but last season we wanted him to be a defensive midfielder and this season we want him to be our right winger. It feels like we go out of our way nowadays to make it as hard as possible for a youth player to master a position.
I remember when the class of 92 came through and they were all consistently (as in more than 90% of their games) played in their best positions. Giggs on the left, Beckham on the right, Scholes as an attacking midfielder, Neville at right back, Butt as a defensive midfielder. Phil Neville is the exception as he was asked to play both full back positions and defensive midfielder and the result was he never mastered any of them. If that same generation came through now I feel like Giggs would be asked to play as a striker, Beckham at full back, Scholes as a left winger etc, would they have ended up reaching the heights they did? It seems doubtful to me.
Obviously this is not to say that players should never be played out of position and that giving a young player some games in unfamiliar positions is always a bad thing. I don't think that. However I do think we go to far in seemingly trying to develop every player into a versatile jack of all trades. Am I alone in thinking this?
Who would you prefer, signing Mario, or taking Bale on 6month loan with option to buy?
Sterling literally learned that instinct at the start of last season. Pretty questionable comment to suggest players barely in their 20's won't improve their game.
We have loads of _______ .
Right now that'd be much better than bloody Mandzukic.. Bale has shown he's still got plenty to offer, Zidane is mad for treating him the way he has.
This made me LOL!
Pretty much had the same attitude last season when our form fell of a cliff. His response was to get the players fitter. Quite one dimensional.
How long has Lingard been out, it's weird reading we'll be better once he comes back fit 
Beckham came through as a CM and played many games there, till SAF realised he's a world class crosser. G Neville was playing CB a lot too, Scholes was shifted around also early on, False 9, CAM, CM. They were just pure class and were always going to make it..
Mandzukic
Why does it seem they have an interview together every week?
‘Hopefully’ ...Ole’s favourite word.
That is not my recollection. When they first came into the team Beckham was almost always on the right, Giggs on the left, Scholes as an attacking midfielder and Neville at right back. Later on you did see Beckham get the odd game in central midfield and Neville at centre back plus Scholes of course gradually moved deeper and deeper over his career.
However it was certainly nothing like it is now when every player that comes through is seemingly expected to learn several positions at the same time.
Yes they were brilliant players but Rashford looked brilliant when he first came into the team too as a striker. Then we spent years trying to get him to be a left winger. And now we have a player who doesn't look great in either position and a manager who says he can also play at #10 and right wing! I have a hard time believing that Giggs would have been as good a left winger as he was if we had insisted that he spent literally years of his development playing as a striker.
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Also my worry, i would definitely take Bale on loan for 6 month.Mandzukic
It's an intervju and I have no idea why people get their knickers in a twist. He may have no idea what he's doing, but even if he did, we wouldn't get much more
Could he not say "we have more work to do to get these guys ticking" and expand on that?
I'm not sure there's anything he could say that an average person wouldn't be able to understand.
They do that to annoy this forum.
Scholes played LW opening game against Aston Villa in that break-through 95/96 season, Becks came on as sub and played CAM. It happened quite a bit when they first came through, SAF was experimenting.
So we shouldn’t take anything he says in these interview seriously? Why bother talk at all?
his actions match what he says. So I’m inclined to believe he actually believes what his saying. You can remain blind to it though.
Both took a club in difficulty and made things worse, far worse. I often wonder how the likes of Neville and Souness can go on life TV and speak about football management with a straight face.
I would think when he means scruffy goals he means getting those two in to the positions to score scruffy goals which is something we all know they both aren’t very good at and to get them to do that he’ll need to be coaching them on patterns of where to run so I would wager he does have a plan.
The guy is extremely deluded. I don't think he's just saying this for media. Looks to me he totally believes the delusional nonsense he's spouting.
We need to put him out of his misery and give him the sack.
We need to put him out of his misery and give him the sack.
feck me. That comment about Harry Maguire and Scott missing headers.
If Jose name dropped a player missing chances the swords would be out
If Jose name dropped a player missing chances the swords would be out
It is a bit funny how Ole can seemingly get away with it. I don't think managers should ever be pointing out individual errors or misses like that in public, it's weird.feck me. That comment about Harry Maguire and Scott missing headers.
If Jose name dropped a player missing chances the swords would be out
It's true. If Jose said those words it would be all over the media, podcasts and thread titles on the caf citing how toxic he is.
Ole does it and I guarantee it will go under the radar in the media.
I think Maguire will know that was a great chance he should have stuck away, and he strikes me as the kind of guy who won't mind hearing that from his manager. I do agree though, that kind of comment enraged the fanbase under Jose.feck me. That comment about Harry Maguire and Scott missing headers.
If Jose name dropped a player missing chances the swords would be out
Not true. James has been serving low crosses for easy tap-ins all season. You have to make runs towards the 5 yard box in order to score scruffy goals.We can't even get the ball into an area where we can score scruffy goals
0:43 - not the best cross but there's no determination whatsoever in the box. Where is the urgency?
0:59 - finally some urgency from Rashford but his starting position is too deep. The best forwards in the world would 'cheat' and be a couple of meters closer to the goal before the ball is played to James.
1:32 - where is the anticipation? Rashford is jogging and only starts the sprint when James releases the ball. Completely unacceptable and this alone is all the proof you need that he isn't a center forward.
1:43 - when the cross comes in our two players closest to the goal have 7 goals between them in 80 games since the start of last season. The goal threat is literally non existent in the box.
Compare that to a 19 year old who is the joint top scorer i the CL:
Every single attack he is literally hugging the offside line and expecting every ball to be played to him. The determination to score goals is unreal. This isn't rocket science. If you show intent, anticipation, urgency and a hunger for goal you will get loads of tap-ins.
If you however have strikers like Rashford doing none of those things then yeah, we won't be scoring many scruffy goals. And we will have posters like yourself claiming we don't create chances to score scruffy goals.
Also this was interesting
Anyway assuming he is right, then since the manager has the final say, he would be solely to blame for the shit show of the transfer window? Is that what he's suggesting? He's not playing the part well because if results continue he's given the media only himself to blame.
So he thinks the structure is fine. Even though it obviously isn't. I know he's the manager but this sounds too much of an endorsement of the guys upstairs given the frailties at the club. There are issues, if you don't want to criticise it openly then be silent. Don't endorse the state of the club.
Anyway assuming he is right, then since the manager has the final say, he would be solely to blame for the shit show of the transfer window? Is that what he's suggesting? He's not playing the part well because if results continue he's given the media only himself to blame.
It is only a matter of time for Ole, so yeah, he can say what he wants, but he isnt good enough. Martial wont save him.
My feelings as well. You can back your players, you can back your staff whilst privately ripping into them. However, the worry is that I think he actually believes in what he is saying. We are heading down a dark path
100% scripted as well, with a bit of dig to Jose and refusal to talk about the current mood. Only the mood when Ole first took over.
Really this quote should be enough for people who are throwing all the blame on the board and excluding Ole from the blame to just stop. Either he's saying the truth and what he actually believes or lying to cover for Woodward, both deserve huge criticism. He's a big part of the problem either way.
I understand what you are saying, Dan James has put a few very good low crosses in and no one to attack.
The reason we get less now, imagine when James goes down and whips one in and no one there, it looks like Dan James is losing the ball putting the ball in for no reason where there is no one. What does he do next? he will try and cut in and recycle the ball. This is why we struggle to break teams down.
Rashford wants to be involved in the play, he doesnt like to break his neck to get in the box.
We played Greenwood one game and many posters on here said he was not involved in the play etc.. but that is what a striker is. Getting involved when it matters, when the ball goes near the box. This is why we need to start him over Rashford as CF.
I really don't get hung up in every word a manager, player or pundit says. It's no point as they talk nonsense most of the time.
I'm not closing my eyes to anything though.
Ole seems to be one of those people who can talk for long periods without saying a great deal.
Wow he really didn´t say much wrong here but the forks are really out for him. I can safely say after the next two matches and with us not winning he won´t last until Xmas.
Martial's already scored one scruffy goal this season and he had played what, three games?
Having him back won't be enough though, especially with his record at being slow at returning to form from injuries.