To be fair Kentonio, that happen both ways. All Brexiteers are Old, little Englanders and Racists.
Which is a no better a stance that the No Deal Brexiteers and is an example of why this subject has become so cancerous.
Which doesn't mean a jot while MP's are blocking each other every day.
You don't think the current deal is a soft(ish) Brexit? The likelihood is it will lead to a FTA, which should theoretically keep the economy conscious remainers like myself and at the same time deliver on the points that people voted Brexit for.
My personal opinion is that we should never have moved on from what was initially called the EEC. Everyone (except Brussels) would have been happy. Thhis is certainly the view of my family members who voted leave. It all went wrong for them when we became politically entwined without consent. And that is why this a festering sore. None of the integration formalising the treaties that ceded powers from our shores were given authority by the people.
Are you so sure of this?
Are you so sure of this too? Brexit was a) Leaving the single market and b) ending juresdiction of the ECJ. That is what is now deemed a hard Brexit. That is what they voted for.
No, but it didn't take long did it?
I'm not going to do a line by line reply thing, because it just splits discussion off into too many directions. You might want to read back your own replies though and check the tone of them, because you're coming across as defensive. I was perfectly clear that my position was at the hard end of the Remain camp, and I make absolutely no apologies for it.
No the current deal isn't 'soft' in any way shape or form. It's setting us up for a hard Brexit which is going to hurt the economy badly and sever most of our ties with the EU. We're about to face protracted negotiations on an actual trade deal, and the likelihood is that we'll be doing it with a new Tory government majority firmly aligned against close cooperation with the EU.
Frankly the position we're currently in should be terrifying for anyone who isn't wealthy. The Tories and their media allies have managed to sucker a large part of the country into believing that the pile of shit they're offering up is a gourmet meal, and completely diverted attention away from the immense power that they are going to get to change the entire fabric of the country over the next couple of years.
Oh and incidentally, you're wrong about your later point re the single market. Even Daniel Hannan, leader of the Vote Leave campaign, said '
Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the single market'. Yet apparently we're supposed to believe that a majority of Leave voters were desperate to leave it? Despite us endlessly hearing the EXACT same argument you just gave, about how we should focus on a trade based relationship with the EU?