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Sheffield United 3:3 Manchester United

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Sun, 24 November 2019

DomesticTadpole

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Our defence is good, our attack is good.
I think people need to realise that they don't exist in isolation - we're missing our first choice midfield and the midfield today kept losing the ball. This means our attackers don't have many chances and our defenders are constantly under pressure.
Also credit to Sheffield for the unrelenting pressure they put on our midfield.
The ones moaning about the defence, good defences have a good strong midfield in front of them. Good attacks have a good strong midfield behind them.
 

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oh Souness hates us so much, sometimes it goes beyond annoying to just funny
 

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SU had the 2nd best defence in the league going into the game but our first half was dreadful. In these games you have to start on the front foot and silence the crowd and we were the opposite.

Not sure why people are moaning about bringing Axel on. Most managers would have tried to sure up the game and that wasn’t the reason for their 3rd goal, it was just poor defending.
 

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Manchester United manager Marcus Rashford on Sky Sports: "They were very compact but you need to have movement. In the first half it wasn't good enough from us, but we managed to recognise it and get back into game and good position.
"It happened at Everton - 2-0 down and we lost 4-0, but it shows we're improving and learning.
"The manager knows when we play on front foot we're a good team. The three goals is the response we managed to give.
"We have to keep pushing though - if we kept going then perhaps we would have got the win.
"Obviously a tough game for both teams. When you go 3-2 up you feel hard done by. But we were in a difficult situation and dug out of it."
 

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A draw is harsh on SU who dominated for large portions of the game. We were utter tosh but for a change we showed a lot of guts to turn around a 2-0 and that too at an away ground.

Gives quite some hope for the future
 

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Manchester United manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer: "Sometimes football is beyond tactics. The energy compared to ours in the first half and then we get that goal and we start to belief. The difference in the team this year compared to last is huge. They never give in. Last year we would have gone four or five down instead of coming back. We would not have been able to come back."
On the poor first half: "Sheffield United looked like they wanted it more than us and believed in their game plan more than we did. We did not have a shot on target first half which is not acceptable."
 

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Pretty horrendous, no? Wants to spin it as a big step forward from Everton, rather than answering questions about the first seventy minutes.
Hes keeping it positive. No doubt that the performance will be analysed behind closed doors.

The club know where this team are. We aren't ready yet. One game doesn't change anything. I'm glad he isn't being reactive and throwing the team under the bus. What good would that do?
 

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It’s pretty sickening in here at the moment. Hundreds of you coming across wanting Ole to fail. Hideous attitudes from fair weather fans
 

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And let's forget that 70% possesion in the 2nd half and say SU actually bossed it, we're shite.

Get the facts right. They had 1st half, we taught them how to play in the 2nd.

Don't go around spouting nonsense like that.
At 2-0 they dropped off, and got complacent that's fair to say. As soon as they needed another goal they started dominating us again and they got the goal too but let's enjoy it eh :houllier:
 

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So frustrating!

The priority this winter transfer window should be a new shiny midfielder. I'm sorry but Pereira is not good enough.

Feel like absolute shite after this game. I thought we were winning it and was devastated when they got that ugly last minute equaliser.

With a better midfield we would've won.
We're going to need to replace Pogba as well. Don't worry, Woodward's going to sign us Longstaff for over 100m.
 

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Manchester United manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer: "Sometimes football is beyond tactics. The energy compared to ours in the first half and then we get that goal and we start to belief. The difference in the team this year compared to last is huge. They never give in. Last year we would have gone four or five down instead of coming back. We would not have been able to come back."
On the poor first half: "Sheffield United looked like they wanted it more than us and believed in their game plan more than we did. We did not have a shot on target first half which is not acceptable."

What a load of absolute shite :lol: so sad how much I can't stand to hear the stuff he spews. empty nonsense.
 

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I agree with you, sadly. i feel like Maurinho had the couching skills but couldn’t manage the personalities. Solskjaer can manage the personalities but doesn’t have the coaching skills.
Mourinho's style of football is outdated and shit, Ole's style of football is outdated and shit. That's the difference between the two.
 

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Honestly this season is a complete write off and we're all much, much better off mentally and physically for believing that.

Laugh when a goal goes in either for or against us and enjoy the banter of it all and it becomes much more fun to watch.

We are at day zero of our rebuild in the grand scheme of things. We've stripped back to the bare bones. Some (well, many) players left are still not good enough but basically we're stuck with them because they're so shit nobody else will take them and we couldn't get enough in to replace them for whatever reason.

I have zero doubt Ole, Phelan, Carrick, McKenna, the players, Ed, the board, the Glazers, the entire fecking world knows that this squad is nowhere near good enough right now and we're going to get players in to make it better. It's about having a plan in place and sticking with it and hopefully getting it right.

Pochettino won feck all at Spurs, he left Moura out who won them the semi-final and played Kane in the final showing his clear favouritism over merit and I think that lost him the dressing room this season. He's claimed he doesn't need to win trophies and it only 'boosts ego' which sounds like the kind of mentality I want nowhere near my football club. He lost his players, he was lower down the league than Ole, hadn't won an away match since February and is probably angling for the Real/Barça job that he'll likely never get because they know he's not a winner so to all the fans that wish we had him in, you can feck off.

Likewise Mourinho this time last season had fallen out with all of his players, fallen out with the board, fallen out with the media and we watched as the utterly tedious miserable cnut dragged us deeper into despair. He did this at Chelsea and did it at Real Madrid so it was only even gonna end the way it did with us. Even when we were doing well under him we still played fecking abysmal football and parked the bus against our biggest rivals. He wasn't a United manager and never will be.

I don't for a second believe Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is a world class manager and ultimately when the time comes we need to appoint someone that is but given the lack of options out there right now and the clear lack of any evidence that anyone given our current squad could do any better with it we might as well give him time and money to spend. He's shown with AWB, Maguire (mostly) and James that he can identify good players and buy them, let's hope he gets more right because whatever we were trying before led us to end up in the shit we're in right now and clearly wasn't working.

Get in Brandon Williams and get in Mason Greenwood. Love that the youth are taking their chances.

Aside from that, Sheffield United have drawn with both Spurs and Chelsea and beaten Arsenal. They're well drilled, their manager has a clear plan and their players buy into it and work very hard to implement it on the pitch. Even under SAF we'd have struggled to win so fair fecks to them, they're doing well this season and long may such a good approach continue to reap rewards from them.

3-3 was completely unfair to them but because I love my club it's absolutely completely fair.

Their third shouldn't have been given and VAR needs massively sorting out. Whatever part of his arm/shoulder it hit stopped the ball from flying up in the air and set it up for the perfect shot instead. No goal (unless you're Liverpool).
 

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I thought we were fortunate to go into half-time 1-0 down. Should have been a lot more than that, imo. Dreadful first half.

Goals change games. As soon as we scored our first, we looked the more energetic and dangerous. Couldn't believe what I was seeing with the score at 3-2! Forget about "deserving it", because we were not great for most of the match, but it just happens to be that we took our chances at a very crucial point in the game. The passing was better and we looked a lot more dangerous. James looked a lot better in the second half compared to the first and I think Rashford was much more involved, too.

I wasn't pleased to see Martial going off at that point. At that point in the game, we were on top and looked up for another goal. But, I understand what Ole was trying to do by beefing up the midfield. Unfortunately, when Sheffield United started seeing more of the ball after the third goal, they were better at pumping that ball into the box than we were at clearing it. We just lacked that composure and intelligence to see the game off.

Ole got his tactics wrong at the start of the game and there is an argument for him not getting it right at the end of the game, too. We needed to control the game better during the last 10 minutes of the match and should have looked to kill the game. A draw is a "fair" result and at 2-0 down I would have been happy with a point at that moment in time. But, to be 3-2 up and not see the game out in the last 10 minutes is disappointing. We have to take these chances better.
 

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In a way, hate to say it, but it's kind of a good thing we didn't pull out a totally jammy, undeserved, flukey win to extend Ole's stay of execution yet again.
Yeah lets pray for loss so we can sack manager, what a dumb post.
 

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There was universal agreement that this season would involves bumps and inconsistencies.

There are now bumps and inconsistencies, and yet same posters lose their shit when there is :houllier:
There’s never universal agreement in anything in football & the notion that the club has to take a huge step back to potentially [there is no guarantee] make a step forward is simply ridiculous.

I saw none of OgS’s detractors demanding we win the league or even really demanding he maintain a top 4 position all season so to act as if him falling so far below any realistic expectations is impatience missing the point entirely.

We concede the same sloppy goals week after week; head to post match threads from earlier in the season & people were chalking mistakes down to ‘it happens in football’ etc. & we’ll get better but after months of the same errors & inept performances this isn’t simply people losing patience with a project - OgS has shown no ability to improve this club or its players yet people want to be contrarian to any opinion that he may be out of his depth.

This is beyond ‘a bump’, this is a 6 month run of horrendous form & failing to see so says more about you than the fans you choose to :houllier:
 

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With Ole, we are on a road to nowhere. We were absolutely awful for most of the game, let's not kid ourselves. Sheffield almost blew it. If we won that game it would have been a travesty for them. Fair play to us for dragging ourselves back into the game, but then Ole reverts back to a 3 and we concede. Try and get Poch and move on. Spurs sacked him and we are almost level with them. I don't see any point whatsoever in sticking with Ole.
 

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At 2-0 they dropped off, and got complacent that's fair to say. As soon as they needed another goal they started dominating us again and they got the goal too but let's enjoy it eh :houllier:
Holy shite some people here are still clueless isn't it?

There is no fecking team that can keep the level of play for 90 minutes.

They had 2-0 lead, they already worked their arse off. See their striker limped off in the 2nd half.

There's no shite like given up, dropped off, complacent, its our turn to chase the game.

And we did, we got 3 goals. 3 fecking goals, and yet still there are people like you who spreading the negativity that we're totally outplayed by an in form Sheffield United at their home ground.
 

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Very poor performance all around with the exception of 10 to 15 minutes. We clearly only have 2 central midfield players: McTominay and Pogba. Today we were without midfield and it was obvious.

So many people blame Ole for replacing Martial with Tuanzebe. But it was totally correct decision. We were ahead with 10 minutes to go, we had 5 attackers on field, practically non-existing midfield and shaky defense. Of course you MUST replace one of the attackers for a DMC in such situation. And Tuanzebe was clearly playing in midfield. Can't imagine the reaction here if he didn't make such substitution and we conceded anyway. He would be burnt alive.

About VAR; I agree McBurnie goal must stand. It barely touched his shoulder. But why wasn't VAR checking foul on Jones before 1st goal??
I'm glad you thought it was a foul on Jones, not many have. I thought Jones was pushed from behind which is a foul in my book.
Jones was a chump for not banging it out of play as he was too far from the touch line to try to play the ball out.
 

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Pretty horrendous, no? Wants to spin it as a big step forward from Everton, rather than answering questions about the first seventy minutes.
I didn't expect him to throw any players under the bus, even if they deserved it
 

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Solskjær got it wrong with 3 central defenders, and he changed it at halftime. After that we became better and better, and when we finally scored to 3-2, he changed it back to a formation with 3 central defenders. The moment he did that, I feared, that we would invite Sheffield back in the game, and I don`t understand why he made that change. We had, for the first time in the match, momentum, and he put that in risk with that replacement.
Because he wasn't sure we could held. We were supposed to held, but confidence plays a big part.
I think we are still on the track. Coming back? Reacting? This is part of the mental strength we expect from our team.
 

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Holy shite some people here are still clueless isn't it?

There is no fecking team that can keep the level of play for 90 minutes.

They had 2-0 lead, they already worked their arse off. See their striker limped off in the 2nd half.

There's no shite like given up, dropped off, complacent, its our turn to chase the game.

And we did, we got 3 goals. 3 fecking goals, and yet still there are people like you who spreading the negativity that we're totally outplayed by an in form Sheffield United at their home ground.
As soon as they needed a goal they started dominating us again or did you miss that part? You're the clueless one. Bye now Ole acolyte.
 

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I thought that was a cracker of a game. With the state of our midfield today, I would have taken a draw. For a few minutes when we came back to score 3 goals it felt like a dream.

James was brilliant in that spell and so was Rashford. The team should take a lot of confidence from that, and talk about game management over the next few days. We immediately sat back after going up, when we should have instead kept the ball and passed it around.

It was a good result given the circumstances, and I really hope we can get one of Pogba and Scott back asap (if not both).

If woodwood doesn't get a signing in midfield and attack in during the January period, it will be bordering on negligence.

Our performances are improving, and the second half today from our players was really good. Two mistakes (one from Andreas, and one from Lindelof) cost us 2 goals.
 

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Awful first half but I actually thought we were the better side throughout the entire second half, we looked much better when Lingard came on/the change in formation so felt their second goal was kind of against the run of play (albeit they should have been further ahead by half time such was their first half domination)

At the end of the day it's a tough away game against one of the better sides in the league this season and one where we were without our 3 first choice midfielders so a point having been so poor and 2-0 down should be seen as a positive (sucks we didn't hang on for all 3 though)
 

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As soon as they needed a goal they started dominating us again or did you miss that part? You're the clueless one. Bye now Ole acolyte.
Of course teams that are behind have to step up and attack.

Duhh.

Bye now.
 

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And let's forget that 70% possesion in the 2nd half and say SU actually bossed it, we're shite.

Get the facts right. They had 1st half, we taught them how to play in the 2nd.

Don't go around spouting nonsense like that.
Taught them how to play, when?

We had a good 15 minutes, and were an embarrassment the rest.
 

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Holy shite some people here are still clueless isn't it?

There is no fecking team that can keep the level of play for 90 minutes.

They had 2-0 lead, they already worked their arse off. See their striker limped off in the 2nd half.

There's no shite like given up, dropped off, complacent, its our turn to chase the game.

And we did, we got 3 goals. 3 fecking goals, and yet still there are people like you who spreading the negativity that we're totally outplayed by an in form Sheffield United at their home ground.
. Jesus just how low have we sunk that you can defend that bollocks.

We have the worst manager in the league that's why we are where we are. Ole is a joke
 

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Can people stop being delusional?

We've played well in 5 games max under Ole ever since the PSG game and were horrid for the rest. Anybody else would have been fired and shipped away long ago, only thing keeping Ole at the job is die to his legacy as a player.

He needs to go asap.
 

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Score Predictions

323,68,103
  • Man Utd win
  • Sheffield Utd win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 23% Sheffield Utd 1:2 Man Utd
  • 17% Sheffield Utd 0:2 Man Utd
  • 16% Sheffield Utd 1:1 Man Utd
  • 7% Sheffield Utd 0:1 Man Utd
  • 6% Sheffield Utd 1:3 Man Utd
  • 6% Sheffield Utd 0:3 Man Utd
  • 5% Sheffield Utd 1:0 Man Utd
  • 5% Sheffield Utd 2:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Sheffield Utd 0:0 Man Utd
  • 3% Sheffield Utd 2:0 Man Utd
  • 2% Sheffield Utd 0:5 Man Utd
  • 2% Sheffield Utd 2:2 Man Utd
  • 1% Sheffield Utd 1:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Sheffield Utd 2:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Sheffield Utd 0:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 5:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 2:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 3:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 5:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 3:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 1:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Sheffield Utd 3:1 Man Utd
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Possession
41% 59%
Shots
12 11
Shots on Target
8 5
Corners
6 3
Fouls
13 10

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