Robbie Boy
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Was this not debunked?Ole gets paid more than Klopp...
Ole gets paid MORE than Klopp!
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Was this not debunked?Ole gets paid more than Klopp...
Ole gets paid MORE than Klopp!
Apologies if so - he's on an Elite manager's salary at the very least though.Was this not debunked?
Pretty sure someone debunked it. Unfortunately we are obviously paying him mega money to do an extremely underwhelming job, though.Apologies if so - he's on an Elite manager's salary at the very least though.
Gill and Fergie did a good job whilst with bad owners.Tell me when David Gill was criticised when we was at the top?
I’ll wait. Same owners by the way, same board too.
This is crazy. Look at the players Liverpool have, Spurs, Chelsea even Leicester. How can you possible expect OGS to put this team in a top 5 spot?!
Nobody was complaining when he was
Stick with him, invest in Jan, and if he still cant get them competing fair enough. Show a bit of loyalty for gods sake.
This is crazy. Look at the players Liverpool have, Spurs, Chelsea even Leicester. How can you possible expect OGS to put this team in a top 5 spot?!
Nobody was complaining when he was appointed
I literally don't get your point. You are praising him for chopping some of the squad, yet absolve him from blame giving contracts to Mata, Jones, Pereira and the likes? Maybe Woodward wanted to chop those players and this is not down on Ole?He’s cleared out a few that needed going as well, contract renewals? Don’t think he would have sanctioned some of those mentioned probably financially motivated by Ed the Red and crew.
My argument is to have any strategy of changing the playing squad we can’t keep chopping and changing not because I am supporting Ole but because the players keep seeing it as a free pass.
How the feck do the following players deserve a place at this club
Young
Jones
(Smalling)
Rojo
Shaw
Mata
Periera
Matic
Fred
They know that a new manager will give them another year and the next will too, it’s a vicious circle we need out of and I only trust a manager who is only concerned about the best for united as he already shown by letting Lukaku go knowing he would be short all summer.
He’s getting paid half of what Jose got!Pretty sure someone debunked it. Unfortunately we are obviously paying him mega money to do an extremely underwhelming job, though.
Neither were value for money of any sort. Just more time wasted falling behind other teams.He’s getting paid half of what Jose got!
Percentage wise we’re getting better value for money
There were many people complaining when he was appointed. Most are just catching up.This is crazy. Look at the players Liverpool have, Spurs, Chelsea even Leicester. How can you possible expect OGS to put this team in a top 5 spot?!
Nobody was complaining when he was appointed.
Right now I'd say hes doing as well as anyone could do with this group. You need to get a grip of reality if you expect this team to be competing with the top6. Pep couldn't put this group top 6.
Stick with him, invest in Jan, and if he still cant get them competing fair enough. Show a bit of loyalty for gods sake.
Your just hatingI literally don't get your point. You are praising him for chopping some of the squad, yet absolve him from blame giving contracts to Mata, Jones, Pereira and the likes? Maybe Woodward wanted to chop those players and this is not down on Ole?
We have seen LvG and Jose chop some players and the numbers are hardly different.
He has made Young captain, gave Jones a new contract, along with couple from your list as well, so not really sure what your point is.
His tenure made us slide into an even worse position that we were 12 months prior.
There's absolutely not a single player(bar McT) that he improved, lost us another year without CL, several players went downwards and has been handing out contracts to players that shouldn't be here - just like every other manager before him.
Also praising him for letting Lukaku go without a replacement - I'm not sure what I can say about that...
How is 2 cups and a second place better value for money to 9th place currently?He’s getting paid half of what Jose got!
Percentage wise we’re getting better value for money
Well we’ve saved a few quid to pay Pogba’s wages for while he is bumming around in Miami and Dubai at least?Neither were value for money of any sort. Just more time wasted falling behind other teams.
Ole has chances for 3 cups yet? Are you still counting last year you obnoxious prick for when he was covering for Jose?How is 2 cups and a second place better value for money to 9th place currently?
Not really. What's the long term gain?Your just hating
It’s called short term pain for long term gain, the fact he was willing to do that should give him some due respect.
All he needs is a dunce hat and a sign round his neck which reads, "Please steal my lunch money."Ole still proud of the boys...
Cups are won from February onward. You are delusional if you think he will stay till then. He got a very good run, then a very shite one last season, won nothing and since made permanent is breaking every negative record there is since 50 years.Ole has chances for 3 cups yet? Are you still counting last year you obnoxious prick for when he was covering for Jose?
You really think Ole is happy with those players mentioned?Not really. What's the long term gain?
5 more years of Pereira, 3 more of Mata, Jones etc?
A big hole in CM with Pogba also wants away and probably will move next Summer? No senior CF, no RW, a complete mess of a squad and no CL football next year?
You're clearly on either a wind up or a opposition supporter.Your just hating
It’s called short term pain for long term gain, the fact he was willing to do that should give him some due respect.
Objective people were against him since day one. Molde and failed Cardiff manager should never become Man Utd manager.This is crazy. Look at the players Liverpool have, Spurs, Chelsea even Leicester. How can you possible expect OGS to put this team in a top 5 spot?!
Nobody was complaining when he was appointed.
Right now I'd say hes doing as well as anyone could do with this group. You need to get a grip of reality if you expect this team to be competing with the top6. Pep couldn't put this group top 6.
Stick with him, invest in Jan, and if he still cant get them competing fair enough. Show a bit of loyalty for gods sake.
He said he's happy with them.You really think Ole is happy with those players mentioned?
He’s played with the best, he’s seen the best do you think he really sees them as uniteds future?
Mou had leverage. Ole had no leverage. Would Ole have turned down the United job, if they paid him less? No because nobody wanted him as manager. That's Woodward and Matt Judge's failure too.He’s getting paid half of what Jose got!
Percentage wise we’re getting better value for money
First sorry for the name callingCups are won from February onward. You are delusional if you think he will stay till then. He got a very good run, then a very shite one last season, won nothing and since made permanent is breaking every negative record there is since 50 years.
Mata got a new deal under himYou really think Ole is happy with those players mentioned?
He’s played with the best, he’s seen the best do you think he really sees them as uniteds future?
Ole and the board said that top 4 was the aim at the start of this season and that he was happy with the squad. I agree that it isn't top 6 quality, unfortunately the club thought it was.This is crazy. Look at the players Liverpool have, Spurs, Chelsea even Leicester. How can you possible expect OGS to put this team in a top 5 spot?!
Nobody was complaining when he was appointed.
Right now I'd say hes doing as well as anyone could do with this group. You need to get a grip of reality if you expect this team to be competing with the top6. Pep couldn't put this group top 6.
Stick with him, invest in Jan, and if he still cant get them competing fair enough. Show a bit of loyalty for gods sake.
I was, appointing him in March was a terrible decision.This is crazy. Look at the players Liverpool have, Spurs, Chelsea even Leicester. How can you possible expect OGS to put this team in a top 5 spot?!
Nobody was complaining when he was appointed.
Right now I'd say hes doing as well as anyone could do with this group. You need to get a grip of reality if you expect this team to be competing with the top6. Pep couldn't put this group top 6.
Stick with him, invest in Jan, and if he still cant get them competing fair enough. Show a bit of loyalty for gods sake.
I think we surpassed that point - him fecking up. It has been nearly an year he has been at helm mate? What else do you need?First sorry for the name calling
Second let’s give him the chance, everyone thunked Jose was being Jose by throwing the league to win his 2 cups. Let’s see what Ole can do, if he fecks it up then sack him and give a manager a full summer what’s to lose now?
How many games has he played under him?Mata got a new deal under him
You need a break from the internet for a bit mate. I've counted about 15 posts from you in the past few pages banging the same drum and now insulting posters which is apparently an offense on here.Ole has chances for 3 cups yet? Are you still counting last year you obnoxious prick for when he was covering for Jose?
Im looking at the long term mate, changes are needed and I think it’s easier under him. Bring in another superstar manager and we go back to instant results, we need to make a choice I’ve made mine.I think we surpassed that point - him fecking up. It has been nearly an year he has been at helm mate? What else do you need?
Do you think 27% win percentage since 6 months or so or 18 points from 14 games this season is adequate for club like United?
To be fair, jesse lingard has shown progress, and a young player like him can become world class in a few years27% win rate whilst also signing Phil Jones, Chris Smalling, Ashley Young, Juan Mata & Andreas Pereira to new long term contracts and letting Herrera and Lukaku leave without replacements.
Also, letting Smalling leave on loan while keeping Jones, Bailly and Rojo at the club.
The players probably bully him in the dressing room and gets Ole to go buy them new cars and chains out of his own pocketAll he needs is a dunce hat and a sign round his neck which reads, "Please steal my lunch money."
No wonder we're having the privilege of witnessing him instil such pride and confidence in the team.
Roy Evans was paid more than Fergie prior to the 1996 FA Cup final. Michael Crick's book "The Boss" revealed that Ferguson told Martin Edwards to lead the team out himself if he felt the chairman was more important than the manager.Ole gets paid more than Klopp...
Ole gets paid MORE than Klopp!
Poch or Nagelsmann are not superstar managers??Im looking at the long term mate, changes are needed and I think it’s easier under him. Bring in another superstar manager and we go back to instant results, we need to make a choice I’ve made mine.
If you credit him for getting rid of players, then he probably has a say on who stays or leaves. Mata doesn't get a contract if he insists he isn’t needed.How many games has he played under him?
He doesn’t sign the contracts, the pricks above him do.
Mike I disagree. I believe he isn't getting the best out of his resources. Look where Leicester finished last season. Hand on heart after the Chelsea game at home would you have swapped our squad for Leicesters? Rodgers is over achieving at Leicester and getting the maximum out of the team. Ole is under performing and not getting the best out of the players.This is crazy. Look at the players Liverpool have, Spurs, Chelsea even Leicester. How can you possible expect OGS to put this team in a top 5 spot?!
Nobody was complaining when he was appointed.
Right now I'd say hes doing as well as anyone could do with this group. You need to get a grip of reality if you expect this team to be competing with the top6. Pep couldn't put this group top 6.
Stick with him, invest in Jan, and if he still cant get them competing fair enough. Show a bit of loyalty for gods sake.
you are beginning to mix things up mate. He doesn't also sell/loan players and the pricks above him do. I can't praise him for "clearing the deadwood" if you can't hold him responsible for giving deals to those average players.How many games has he played under him?
He doesn’t sign the contracts, the pricks above him do.
To me changes are to the worse and that's clearly visible in our performances. When the new manager comes in it makes zero difference what Ole has wanted as everything will change when he takes over.Im looking at the long term mate, changes are needed and I think it’s easier under him. Bring in another superstar manager and we go back to instant results, we need to make a choice I’ve made mine.
Getting rid of players is a managers choice, new contracts not so much. How many games has mata played? 5If you credit him for getting rid of players, then he probably has a say on who stays or leaves. Mata doesn't get a contract if he insists he isn’t needed.
See previous response a manager can definitively sing off on a player going, new contract (these days have financial consequences)you are beginning to mix things up mate. He doesn't also sell/loan players and the pricks above him do. I can't praise him for "clearing the deadwood" if you can't hold him responsible for giving deals to those average players.
To me changes are to the worse and that's clearly visible in our performances. When the new manager comes in it makes zero difference what Ole has wanted as everything will change when he takes over.
What would be left is nothing positive or different to what others before him have done.
That doesn't make sense. If the manager says I want rid of x player, they don’t get a new contract.Getting rid of players is a managers choice, new contracts not so much. How many games has mata played? 5