Was this not debunked?
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Apologies if so - he's on an Elite manager's salary at the very least though.
Pretty sure someone debunked it. Unfortunately we are obviously paying him mega money to do an extremely underwhelming job, though.
Gill and Fergie did a good job whilst with bad owners.
Ed and moyes not so good
Ed and LVG not so good
Ed and Jose not so good
Ed and Ole not so good
There’s a pattern
You are joking arent you? There was tons of people against his appointment from the start.
I literally don't get your point. You are praising him for chopping some of the squad, yet absolve him from blame giving contracts to Mata, Jones, Pereira and the likes? Maybe Woodward wanted to chop those players and this is not down on Ole?
We have seen LvG and Jose chop some players and the numbers are hardly different.
He has made Young captain, gave Jones a new contract, along with couple from your list as well, so not really sure what your point is.
His tenure made us slide into an even worse position that we were 12 months prior.
There's absolutely not a single player(bar McT) that he improved, lost us another year without CL, several players went downwards and has been handing out contracts to players that shouldn't be here - just like every other manager before him.
Also praising him for letting Lukaku go without a replacement - I'm not sure what I can say about that...
He’s getting paid half of what Jose got!
Percentage wise we’re getting better value for money
Neither were value for money of any sort. Just more time wasted falling behind other teams.
There were many people complaining when he was appointed. Most are just catching up.
Your just hatingI literally don't get your point. You are praising him for chopping some of the squad, yet absolve him from blame giving contracts to Mata, Jones, Pereira and the likes? Maybe Woodward wanted to chop those players and this is not down on Ole?
We have seen LvG and Jose chop some players and the numbers are hardly different.
He has made Young captain, gave Jones a new contract, along with couple from your list as well, so not really sure what your point is.
His tenure made us slide into an even worse position that we were 12 months prior.
There's absolutely not a single player(bar McT) that he improved, lost us another year without CL, several players went downwards and has been handing out contracts to players that shouldn't be here - just like every other manager before him.
Also praising him for letting Lukaku go without a replacement - I'm not sure what I can say about that...
It’s called short term pain for long term gain, the fact he was willing to do that should give him some due respect.
How is 2 cups and a second place better value for money to 9th place currently?
Well we’ve saved a few quid to pay Pogba’s wages for while he is bumming around in Miami and Dubai at least?
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Ole has chances for 3 cups yet? Are you still counting last year you obnoxious prick for when he was covering for Jose?How is 2 cups and a second place better value for money to 9th place currently?
Not really. What's the long term gain?
5 more years of Pereira, 3 more of Mata, Jones etc?
A big hole in CM with Pogba also wants away and probably will move next Summer? No senior CF, no RW, a complete mess of a squad and no CL football next year?
All he needs is a dunce hat and a sign round his neck which reads, "Please steal my lunch money."
No wonder we're having the privilege of witnessing him instil such pride and confidence in the team.
Cups are won from February onward. You are delusional if you think he will stay till then. He got a very good run, then a very shite one last season, won nothing and since made permanent is breaking every negative record there is since 50 years.
You really think Ole is happy with those players mentioned?
He’s played with the best, he’s seen the best do you think he really sees them as uniteds future?
You're clearly on either a wind up or a opposition supporter.
You don't believe in the garbage you've been spouting.
Objective people were against him since day one. Molde and failed Cardiff manager should never become Man Utd manager.
Loyalty? Why? Because he is Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, our legend and shit like that?
He said he's happy with them.
After he is gone it's hardly important whether or not what he wanted/wants as we will be stuck with them and the new manager has to fix his "short term" mess.
If Ole is sacked tomorrow he will leave us with absolutely nothing positive from his reign. Maybe James and that's about it.
Mou had leverage. Ole had no leverage. Would Ole have turned down the United job, if they paid him less? No because nobody wanted him as manager. That's Woodward and Matt Judge's failure too.
First sorry for the name calling
Second let’s give him the chance, everyone thunked Jose was being Jose by throwing the league to win his 2 cups. Let’s see what Ole can do, if he fecks it up then sack him and give a manager a full summer what’s to lose now?
Mata got a new deal under him
Ole and the board said that top 4 was the aim at the start of this season and that he was happy with the squad. I agree that it isn't top 6 quality, unfortunately the club thought it was.
I was, appointing him in March was a terrible decision.
I think we surpassed that point - him fecking up. It has been nearly an year he has been at helm mate? What else do you need?
Do you think 27% win percentage since 6 months or so or 18 points from 14 games this season is adequate for club like United?
How many games has he played under him?
He doesn’t sign the contracts, the pricks above him do.
You need a break from the internet for a bit mate. I've counted about 15 posts from you in the past few pages banging the same drum and now insulting posters which is apparently an offense on here.
I would say don't go getting yourself banned but by this time next weekend being banned on a forum will be the least if your worries..... judging by how passionately you're obsessively defending Ole you might wanna throw away your sharp objects next weekend.
He's gone.
Im looking at the long term mate, changes are needed and I think it’s easier under him. Bring in another superstar manager and we go back to instant results, we need to make a choice I’ve made mine.
To be fair, jesse lingard has shown progress, and a young player like him can become world class in a few years
The players probably bully him in the dressing room and gets Ole to go buy them new cars and chains out of his own pocket
Love ole, one of my all time favourites. Nothing would make me happier than a guy like him turning us around. But today might be the day that turned my head and patience. We were absolutely hopeless. Last 3 games we have looked devoid of any sort of system at all, 1 year into oles tenure.
Roy Evans was paid more than Fergie prior to the 1996 FA Cup final. Michael Crick's book "The Boss" revealed that Ferguson told Martin Edwards to lead the team out himself if he felt the chairman was more important than the manager.
Poch or Nagelsmann are not superstar managers??
They're just managers who are light years ahead of Ole at every aspect of management and coaching.
Not wanting to upgrade Ole to a top up-and-coming manager is no different from saying "meh, who cares if the club ever plays in Europe ever again, feck it". No. Ambition.
If you credit him for getting rid of players, then he probably has a say on who stays or leaves. Mata doesn't get a contract if he insists he isn’t needed.
Mike I disagree. I believe he isn't getting the best out of his resources. Look where Leicester finished last season. Hand on heart after the Chelsea game at home would you have swapped our squad for Leicesters? Rodgers is over achieving at Leicester and getting the maximum out of the team. Ole is under performing and not getting the best out of the players.
you are beginning to mix things up mate. He doesn't also sell/loan players and the pricks above him do. I can't praise him for "clearing the deadwood" if you can't hold him responsible for giving deals to those average players.
To me changes are to the worse and that's clearly visible in our performances. When the new manager comes in it makes zero difference what Ole has wanted as everything will change when he takes over.
What would be left is nothing positive or different to what others before him have done.
Getting rid of players is a managers choice, new contracts not so much. How many games has mata played? 5
See previous response a manager can definitively sing off on a player going, new contract (these days have financial consequences)
Do you really think he wants some of these players who most managers of the championship wouldn’t bust a gut for.
That doesn't make sense. If the manager says I want rid of x player, they don’t get a new contract.
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