What’s wrong with discussing it on this thread?
Saudi sports minister gives update on buying club from Glazers
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This thread is about the possible takeover by the Saud family, moral and politics is at the center of that family and the possible takeover while muppetery has little relevance to the thread. If you want to talk about random transfer ideas, there are several threads in the transfer forum.
Would you stop following United if the Saudis bought us?
I for one is not interested in the moral or political side of things whoever takeover man utd.
As of now, we are badly in need of our owner to do the following in order for man utd to be successful again:
1) To appoint a CEO or DOF who is competent to implement a football structure to the club (see Man City structure)
2) To revamp the structure of appointing a manager with style of football, continuity, succession plan all properly planned out far in advanced.
3) To revamp our scouting system and youth development
4) To allocate a big transfer budget for proper rebuild as we are in need of 5-6 quality signings in the next 2-3 summers after we have proper structure in the club
5) Stadium and training facilities in need of upgrade.
These are the things which I think the new owner (regardless its Saudi or not) will implement instead of Glazer/Ed.
As of now, we are badly in need of our owner to do the following in order for man utd to be successful again:
1) To appoint a CEO or DOF who is competent to implement a football structure to the club (see Man City structure)
2) To revamp the structure of appointing a manager with style of football, continuity, succession plan all properly planned out far in advanced.
3) To revamp our scouting system and youth development
4) To allocate a big transfer budget for proper rebuild as we are in need of 5-6 quality signings in the next 2-3 summers after we have proper structure in the club
5) Stadium and training facilities in need of upgrade.
These are the things which I think the new owner (regardless its Saudi or not) will implement instead of Glazer/Ed.
I wouldnt
We can stay with the glazers while the club goes down the shitter but with our moral heads held high and let the Saudis buy a club like Spurs,Arsenal or Liverpool and see if their fans give a shit while they are hoovering up trophys.
The team,stadium and training ground require investment plus the whole footballing structure needs root and branch reform and it's not going to happen under the glazers.
#saudisin
seriously, you want your club taken over by murdering dictators?
I don't know.
Glazers don’t want to sell and Saudi’s don’t want to buy. The Saudi’s may well bug a football club in near future but it’s very unlikely to be Utd. It will be cheaper, easier and create less bad press and opposition to buy someone with a lower profile.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Investment_Fund_of_Saudi_Arabia
The above is just one of the Saudi investment arms. If u guys really want to boycott, based on the Wikipedia u have to boycott the US government, Tesla, Uber and etc.
And don't put words into my mouth. I never said just bring in money. We need total revamp and structure to our club. I welcome any owner who can do that. For once, please learn to respect and read other opinions which differ from your before you reply
And "seriously" how is that any different to supporting an English team given what the English have done for centuries in Eire ? As they murdered a couple of million of Irish during 800 hundred of oppression and dictatorship, the Saudis haven't and you have no issue supporting Utd, so cant see why you would have issue with the house of Saud.
I'm not sure the glazers don't want to sell as one of them looks like he's up for selling up and as the cash cow is now drying up and because of the investment needed in the team and infastructure I'm sure more of the parasites will want to cash in.
Tne club will not move forward untill they are gone.
I didnt say it did. I said stop with the holier than thou bullshit.
Please dont call it Eire.
Yep, this is what I'm guessing most, if not all fans want. When it's a big derby day like today, I can't hear too many of either, United or City fans talk about the moral ethics of the owners. I don't hear the media in the build of today's match talk much about Abu Dhabi's human rights stand. All I see is how advanced City are to us. We are talking about football here and only football.
But I'm more than happy to be shown whereby Qatar or Abu Dhabi have gone worse since owning their respective clubs?!
Some of their fans won’t give a shit same as some of ours, other fans will give a shit.
It depends if you think winning trophies and investing money is more important than decency.
As for spending unlimited monopoly money and hoovering up trophies sounds like city to me and unlike Moyes I don’t aspire to be like them. Where is the challenge? Where is the satisfaction? The soul would be ripped out of the club!
Any team can do that. Not any team can do what Leicester, Nott Forest did or dominate like Liverpool and we did due to money earned from being a successful football club and having a history to be proud of.
Turn on a football manager game and play it in cheat mode and see how bored and little satisfaction you get.
Yeah we could get bought out, dodge financial fair play rules and buy the best 20 players in the world and hoover up trophies left right and centre. Would you feel the same satisfaction as when we won the league with class of class
of 92 at the core? How would this fit with our history and tradition?
I’d rather we take on these type of clubs than join them even if it means winning leas often as the wins would mean something and represent decency
I got to be honest and I don’t care who buys United provided they do the right thing for the club and get us back to winning trophies.
I get why people have moral issues with Saudi Arabia but I don’t believe anyone would walk away from the club if they took over.
This.
I don't think any fan is really wanting a sugar daddy as we all know we can stand on our own two feet but there are not many people about who could 1. Pay the asking price to get the glazers out and 2. Invest in the infastructure and reform the footballing side to get the club back to the top table.
In the last 10 years the club has more or less undone what it did in the previous 20.
Why would we need to dodge the FFP rules? We actually make plenty of money. Just a lot of it isn't reinvested into the club due to various different outgoings ranging from servicing debts, paying director fees, dividends etc.
Yes City and PSG got an upper hand before FFP and have since got stricter. Yes City are known to fiddle the books for FFP but we really wouldn't need to for transfers. Any immediate money from Saud or Chinese would be to reinvest into the stadium and training ground...to make up for the shite that Glazers have left us.
Yeah and what about those Spanish feckers as well, nearly wiping out the entire Mayan civilisation, you won’t catch me going to Spain for me hols because of it and don’t even get me started on the bloody vikings, going berserk in York and wot not, I’ll never forgive ‘em, the fact that Ole is in charge of my football club makes my blood boil grrrrrr!
No thanks to being owned by a state irrespective of which one it is.
Kevin Glazer isn’t looking to sell, that’s been cleared up it was just media speculation and rumours. They aren’t looking to sell, they will milk club for much before they do.
The reason I don't want them to purchase United is that in my opinion, it would taint United's image and history. And my issue is specifically with the House of Saud, so the all the strawmen* about the US, the UK, other arabs are totally irrelevant
because the neither the US and the UK are linked to the purchase of United and the citizens of countries aren't the equivalent of the House of Saud. Now if you have a different point of view, it's fine for me, I have no will to convince you or anybody else on that subject.
*I'm talking about these threads in general and not about something that you personally said.
The issue is that at least two of them have no intention to sell, Joel and Avram. The rest have always been described as distant and would probably sell if it wasn't for their brothers.
This
when the club was the best team in the land we upgraded the stadium by building 2 new stands and then 2 new quadrants plus we built a new training ground to make sure Manchester United where always the prime club.
It seems to have stopped around 2005 for some reason
Maybe because the last expansion was finished in 2006 and that you don't really do these type of things every other years?This
when the club was the best team in the land we upgraded the stadium by building 2 new stands and then 2 new quadrants plus we built a new training ground to make sure Manchester United where always the prime club.
It seems to have stopped around 2005 for some reason
The stadium hasn't been upgraded since 2005. The quadrants were the PLC's babies. I think that's the point being made.
If anyone is watching Sky Sports Main Event channel right now, will see the Saudi advert about their country. 3-4 different ladies as tour guides and one of the women showing her boxing skills in the gym. If anyone was in doubt, the Saudis are coming. They will go after a sports team & more than likely it's United. They're coming.
The quadrants where already half way through when the glazers took over so the get no credit for that upgrade to the stadium.
Oh and by the way we where debt free and had 36 million in the bank.
What do you mean by half way through, you guys realize that the Glazers have been among the main shareholders since 2003? People have a point about the stadium refurbishment since but they were part of the expansion done from 2005 to 2006.
They're coming because an Ad with women boxing in it played on Sky sports?
Exactly mate. Trying to argue this in here is like banging your head against a brick wall.
The anti-Saudi brigade just want to wag their finger and take the moral high ground.
It’s fine to be disgusted at what the Saudi’s have done but to stamp your feet and shout people down who want to have a fair sided debate is pathetic and only serves to further the problem and separation between Saudi Arabia and the western culture.
Hahahaha, yes! (Palm on the face moment!)
You really want this to happen.
I don’t know what your referring to pal, you’ve obviously no fair sided non-exaggerated response then I take it
Not particularly, no. I'm just saying I want a total revamp from the board, the management staff, to investment in OT and the training ground. Do the current owners/board inspire me? Totally not.
But also, with the Saudi's aggressively trying to change their image, it's only a matter of time they will take over either us or Lfc (imo).
I wouldn't be surprised if they go for a club like Tottenham.
I feel like this as well. I'd struggle to enjoy it anywhere near as much, regardless of the "guaranteed" trophies.