I expect him to fail big time there. The job is too big for him and I don't think he'll be able to handle their players moody behavior and inconsistency. He'll be sacked by this time next season.
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DO you also have the lottery numbers? The fact is that no one knows what it's going to be like for the players. Yes, maybe they could have gone for a 'safe' option but there aren't much available managers out there at the moment. Allegri is a total waste of time and he would be like Emery Pt.2. Carlo is not a long term solution and other top managers are already tied down to a long term contract. We all know Arsenal are in a bit of a transition phase after Wenger but I don't think for one second that they would have given Arteta the job if he wasn't qualified, knowledgeable and thought he didn't have anything to bring to the team. If that was the case, they should have just stuck with Freddie.
I always laugh at these kind of posts. Everything is a risk. Hiring him is a risk. Hiring Lampard was a risk. Hiring Ole was a risk. Hiring Wenger back in the 90's was a risk. These days we fail to give people a fair chance without giving them the adequate time to be evaluated. 2 losses and most of us want a manager's head like we all know every single variable that went into the loss. I have no doubt that Arteta is a good coach, what I have doubts about is the Arsenal's board ability to support him when he needs it.
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Jose Mourinho wasn't a good player. Your playing ability has absolutely zero bearing on your ability to coach players.
Good thing I made you laugh. I hope you'll be laughing too when this happens.
I added to my post. Take a read Nostradamus.
People are fine to have their expectations. If I had said I expect him to succeed and will stay for few years you wouldn't have labelled me "Nostradamus" in a sarcastic way despite it being in a similar manner, maybe you would have liked the post too, so calm down a little bit. You're defending the decision to hire him as if you're the one responsible for it from inside the Arsenal board.
your posts are ridiculous. Shall other posters caveat their posts with “this is just my opinion, and is not fact, and may not turn out to be true, and capital invested is at your risk...”.
you think he will be a success, others think he will fail.
I think he will fail, and be gone within a year (this is just my opinion, and is not fact, and may not turn out to be true, and capital invested is at your risk).
Have to say Arteta has more to lose in this than Arsenal FC. It will be his first job and if he fails here his managerial career could be in trouble. I don't think this Arsenal squad is the most suitable one to start your managerial career. Interesting time for Arsenal and Arteta. If this fails then Arsenal are also in big trouble.
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I never said he would be a success or failure. I'm not implying any of that. What I'm reading here is "he'd be a failure" with zero data to backup that statement. We have nothing to judge him on in a managerial capacity so I think saying he would fail or be a success is just, in my honest opinion, highly speculative. We all wish him well obviously and it's what people 'normally' do when someone takes up a new job anywhere.
I'm not defending Arsenal's decision to hire him, in fact, I even questioned their hiring of Emery right here since the DATA to backup his appointment as a successful manager wasn't there. Besides his Europa league wins, his league form (which you can gather more performance data about a manager and player) showed that his teams were more or less poor performing in La Liga. What I'm saying about Arteta is that saying he would be a failure or success before we even have a chance to evaluate what he's brought to the team and assessing the team's performance over a said period is just highly speculative. Sarcasm wasn't my intention ....apologies; I just think that us fans give managers and players a very hard time without giving them a real chance to prove themselves.
Why would Manchester United fans wish arsenal to do well? Unless you mean well = not getting them relegated?
Can see him being a failure.
I think they need someone more pragmatic i.e. a Mourinho or Allegri. Arteta will go in there and try to play the same football City do, and they haven't got the players or mentality to do it. There is no leaders in the Arsenal team and a very weak backline. I doubt they will back him with a warchest.
It's unknown what the Arsenal boards expectations are but I'd suspect it's to challenge and finish in the top 4 and I don't think this appointment will get them there. They should have went a different way after getting rid of Wenger or got a top top manager in. They have always been able to play good football, have decent spells of form but ultimately they don't fulfill their expectations due to a brittle midfield and defence. In some respects, a solid defence and midfield can be coached and worked upon. The set of defenders and midfielders at Arsenal are much better than other clubs in the PL but yet their defensive record is much worse.
I think they need someone more pragmatic i.e. a Mourinho or Allegri. Arteta will go in there and try to play the same football City do, and they haven't got the players or mentality to do it. There is no leaders in the Arsenal team and a very weak backline. I doubt they will back him with a warchest.
It's unknown what the Arsenal boards expectations are but I'd suspect it's to challenge and finish in the top 4 and I don't think this appointment will get them there. They should have went a different way after getting rid of Wenger or got a top top manager in. They have always been able to play good football, have decent spells of form but ultimately they don't fulfill their expectations due to a brittle midfield and defence. In some respects, a solid defence and midfield can be coached and worked upon. The set of defenders and midfielders at Arsenal are much better than other clubs in the PL but yet their defensive record is much worse.
I don't know how is He as a coach really. But I know He's one of those people whose hair always looks tidy for some reason.
I can’t explain it but I reckon he will do well there. Arsenal seem to be looking for a head coach rather than a manager and Arteta fits that.
Also usually when there's a overwhelming negative response to a new manager it usually ends up working. I base this of course on nothing at all.
Also usually when there's a overwhelming negative response to a new manager it usually ends up working. I base this of course on nothing at all.
Arsenal need like 6 new players to return to respectable status and there’s little to no Indication that there are funds to even get three. Other than Aubameyang, Torreira, Tierney, lacazette and maybe Guendozi, there’s no one at that club who even gives a shit. No self respecting manager would even touch that job with a 20 foot pole. Add in a toxic fan base and decades long bad culture that’s been allowed to fester and its a recipe for failure.
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Exactly and that goes both ways seeing as he has zero experience as an actual manager. Maybe hes awesome? Who knows? But considering the task at hand at Arsenal the odds are against him seeing as his managerial abilities is an unknown quantity.
The problem he faces imo is that the expectations dont match the teams ability right now. Regular top 4 finishes was never seen as good enough under Wenger and top 4 with their current squad is a tall order. Right now 3/4 top spots are taken and they have to compete with us, Chelsea and Spurs for the last one, no way they are getting top 4 this year and considering the state of their squad they wont get it next year either unless everyone else has a complete meltdown
The club and their fans have to stick their finger in the dirt and realize they are not very good right now and need a couple of years and some shrewd moves in the market to get back up. I doubt that will happen though
I'd be a bit worried for he and Arsenal if reports Steve Round will be part of his backroom staff end up being true.
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Interesting
PL fast becoming a managerial playground of ex-players. Does Yaya Toure have coaching badges?
At the end of the day, no one really knows how Mikel Arteta is going to get on at Arsenal. Saying he is going to fail is just a massive pre-judgement.
He strikes me as someone with charisma, ideas and he was also Arsenal Captain which suggest he has leadership. He also speak perfect English and knows the Premier League better than most experienced managers coming from abroad.
I think he'll be a worryingly good appointment
He strikes me as someone with charisma, ideas and he was also Arsenal Captain which suggest he has leadership. He also speak perfect English and knows the Premier League better than most experienced managers coming from abroad.
I think he'll be a worryingly good appointment
I think we'll end up with Gerrard as manager at some point.
That appointment would really take the cake.
Slippery slope for LFC
Of course it is. Absolutely everything written about him at this stage is exactly that. Given the facts at hand and his current experience, it would be surprising if he were a success - it doesn't mean he won't be, but it's more likely that it'll end in tears than the other way around.
So one leg end replaces another leg end
I am sure the Arsenal fans are thinking the same about our manager...
Peps cone placer, massive pressure on him and if he doesn't get off to a good start the toxic fans will be after him.
I thought Ljungberg was moaning about the lack of coaching staff, who will Arteta even bring in?
What? The same clueless guy who was Moyes’ assistant?
Yes.
I’m sure they can dig up some legends from somewhere: Merse, Adams, Bould,Keown, Henry
Looks like we are in the age of ex players now managing.Good luck to him.
That’s brilliant. I just remember him with Moyes on the touch line looking absolutely befuddled when we were losing yet again.
“ what do we do Steve?”
“ Er...don’t know boss.”
Must fix the culture among the players and not play 3/4 players that do not track back. Defending with 6 players even against the likes of Newcastle is not enough.
Weren’t we always in the age of ex players managing
Might as well take Campbell too.