Cassidy
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Was very good yesterday, we should be all over this
I saw Inter - Barca and he was excellent. Very assured at the back a physical beast, and also very astute positionally. At 19 he's got the raw talent to develop into a beast.They can't ask for more though. As you said, he's barely played. De Ligt played significantly more football than him, hence his high transfer fee.
Wolves, Juve, Bayer and Milan are interested in Todibo. A host of clubs went for him initially when he left Toulouse so wouldn't be surprised to see the same still be in. He got whoscored motm (means very little I know) last night for example. He attempted 8 tackles and won 8, highest on the pitch yesterday.
This whole idea that Pep always gives youth a chance is bs. How many youth players has he given chances at City. Foden is supposed to be a real talent and yet he struggles to get meaningful minutes. The guy prefers to play Fernandinho in CB than play Eric Garcia, who whenever I have seen seems a decent talent.Maybe if Pep came back players like Todibo would have more of a chance. Valverde is a bit like Mou in respect that he doesn't trust youth. Instead of trusting Todibo he had Umtiti playing even though he wasn't near 100% fit. Todibo was bought as the 4th CB behind Pique, Lenglet and Umtiti but the club are now seemingly putting there money on Ronald Araujo from Barca B to take his spot.
Rumours round the club are Todibo might be sold for around €12m in the January window with Milan and Bayer Leverkusen being interested. I haven't seen too much of him because he's hardly played to comment too much but I haven't really been impressed from what I've seen. €12m for a CB is peanuts in comparison to the 75m Juve paid for De Ligt so it doesn't seem like Barca have seen too much from him to sell him for anymore.
He's played 15 competitive games at the top level. If Barca want to sell him it's because they don't see anything in him. He was worth a risk for them because he was bought for €1m. If he's sold the risk will have paid off because he'll be sold at a good profit without actually doing anything to prove he's worth the money. Barca are very short in the CB department so it wouldn't make sense selling him if they thought he had a future with them.Was very good yesterday, we should be all over this
Are you suggesting Barca couldn't be wrong about him? He just needs time to develop and if he is available at 12m euros that isnt a big riskHe's played 15 competitive games at the top level. If Barca want to sell him it's because they don't see anything in him. He was worth a risk for them because he was bought for €1m. If he's sold the risk will have paid off because he'll be sold at a good profit without actually doing anything to prove he's worth the money. Barca are very short in the CB department so it wouldn't make sense selling him if they thought he had a future with them.
Yeah. You probably have a good point about Guardiola now. When he managed Barca he did give a lot of young players their chance and gave debuts to a lot of players that are still playing at a high level today. Busquets, Pedro, Thiago, Sergio Roberto, Rafinha, Deleufeu, Martin Montoya, Marc Bartra, Oriol Romeu, Jonathan dos Santos and played Pique from the start when not even SAF trusted him enough. Although to be fair to SAF we did have great CBs at the time.This whole idea that Pep always gives youth a chance is bs. How many youth players has he given chances at City. Foden is supposed to be a real talent and yet he struggles to get meaningful minutes. The guy prefers to play Fernandinho in CB than play Eric Garcia, who whenever I have seen seems a decent talent.
I'm suggesting Barca can't afford to be wrong about him with them only having 3 recognised CBs, one of which will be retiring in a few seasons and another with chronic injuries. No one outside of Barca can comment on him because of the very few games he's played at a high level. Barca see him every day so they must of seen something they don't like if he's to be sold. There is big questions about his attitude as well so maybe that has more to do with it than him not being good enough. Either way I'd prefer to look elsewhere.Are you suggesting Barca couldn't be wrong about him? He just needs time to develop and if he is available at 12m euros that isnt a big risk
This. Not to mention at his young age and lack of experience, it’s difficult even for Barcelona to make any kind of definitive claim about his future or lack thereof.I wouldn’t put too much stock in us not rating Todibo. It’s true we have more insight than others, but it’s also true we’re a mess so I don’t really have faith in the manager and staff recognizing talent. Todibo had a fantastic game last night.
They've actually signed Saliba for next season, he was mentioned earlier in this thread. They signed him for 20m but let him stay at St Etienne for this season.Can't believe Barca are looking to sell him so soon, yet persist with Umtitti and hung onto Vermaelan for so long, both whom pick it frequent injuries, unless with is the case with this kid? I heard he had a bad injury prior to moving to Barca.
A team like Arsenal should be in for him, give him a run of games and their defence would improve.
Yeah I remember them sorting out that transfer, they could do with 1 other CB though, David Luiz was a poor choice.They've actually signed Saliba for next season, he was mentioned earlier in this thread. They signed him for 20m but let him stay at St Etienne for this season.
Thats not a surprise, i would expect Lautaro to cause problems to every CB or even dominating them, he is a handful.Lautaro ate him alive in virtually every duel
Everything else was impreseive though, but especially his quality and assuredness on the ball
The world is littered with very good footballers who couldn't fit at Barcelona.He's played 15 competitive games at the top level. If Barca want to sell him it's because they don't see anything in him. He was worth a risk for them because he was bought for €1m. If he's sold the risk will have paid off because he'll be sold at a good profit without actually doing anything to prove he's worth the money. Barca are very short in the CB department so it wouldn't make sense selling him if they thought he had a future with them.
Agreed but the world is also littered with 19 year olds rotting in the reserves because they're not good enough. One decent game shouldn't make people believe he's a must sign player. A little bit of balance is needed.The world is littered with very good footballers who couldn't fit at Barcelona.
Of course, but if Maldini is after him that means something.Agreed but the world is also littered with 19 year olds rotting in the reserves because they're not good enough. One decent game shouldn't make people believe he's a must sign player. A little bit of balance is needed.
Apparently Milan are prepared to pay €8m and allowing Barca to insert a buy back clause in the deal. It seems a good deal for Barca not so much for Milan.Of course, but if Maldini is after him that means something.
At 8m, Milan can take a chance without much risk. And if he develops well and fits with the squad, maybe he doesn't want to go back at Barca. Think it's a good deal for all parties.Apparently Milan are prepared to pay €8m and allowing Barca to insert a buy back clause in the deal. It seems a good deal for Barca not so much for Milan.
Specially with Pique whos declining and Umttiti who's injury prone.Seems strange that they would get rid.
It seems Barca promised him game time and have failed to hold their end of the bargain. Now the player wants out due to not getting a significant run in the first team which is hindering his development.Seems strange that they would get rid.
Makes you wonder why all these players sign on frees to Barcelona considering they never pan out, great business for Barca though.Todibo on his way to Schalke for 6 month loan appartently.
Yes, and he was one of the players we were interested in bringing here next summer, according to reports. Manchester Evening News just before Christmas, went with a report that we were interested.Should have tried to loan him out with an attractive buy option. If he turns out to be great and promising in the first 6 months, pull the trigger.
Except for Maguire and maybe Tuanzebe in the future, our CBs are not starting material
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Todibo apparently joining Schalke on loan.
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Yea, no doubt. Would be insane for them to sell him 6 months after buying him. Good deal for Schalke though, I'm sure the buyback clause would be higher than what they'l pay, so they can a decent profit if he does really well.surely they included a buyback clause