It's still very early to evaluate how he's doing but even before becoming Arsenal's manager he has been talked to be someone who could become a class manager to the point of being offered being part of Pochettino's and Guardiola's staff. I think he also got offered a job at Arsenal, so even without watching him in action I was already curious about him in a manager role. His style of play should be something in the same wavelength as Guardiola. So yeah, let's wait to see how he does but I do want him to do well in there and be able to implement his style there.
If "studying under" were an indication for anything, then we have two of those - Phelan and Ole both "studied under" SAF. Or is SAF not as good as Pep? Because that would be laughable.
Ole coached the reserves for awhile he wasn't exactly working directly with SAF in the first team. Phelan did have a few chances as a manager based on his time working with SAF but I don't think he was ever really tipped for success.
Yeah the key thing is that a good coach does not make a good manager. It's a massive difference and not remotely close to the same thing. He might be good, but I'd say his qualities as a coach have little relevance to what he can be as a manager.
Because Emery never won a single game in his time at Arsenal? Remember all the early optimism when Emery took over?
I think it’s just football supporters (human condition) showing a bit of faith and optimism. No need to get upset, it’s quite common really.
No one in world football rated Ole as a manager. Great managers heaped praise on Arteta. The best manager in the world swears by him and Wenger and Pochettino speaks highly of him. But what do they know. Arteta was offered coach job before he retired. Then almost got the main job and he went to city and became their nr 2 guy and a guy they thought could replace Pep when he leaves. Also listen to him and listen to Ole and I know who sounds and act like a big manager and who acts like a guy who is managing Norwich.
Not quite the answer. The reason why it's more likely a Pep understudy succeeds than a Fergie understudy is due to the types of managers they were. Fergie was one of the greatest man managers. He wasn't some technical mastermind that went into every detail so that his team could succeed. Thus, the understudy isn't going to get the best education for managing under Fergie. They would be missing the key ingredient in what makes Fergie successful, being one of the greatest man managers which is down to personality, and an instinct that allows him to make key decisions at the right moment. Under Pep, they can learn a philosophy that is very technical that they then can apply when they're managers. Now of course, that doesn't mean they'll be as successful as Pep. Pep has to have something extra that allowed him to be as successful as he is, but I would argue that on the spectrum his man management isn't as great as Fergie's is. Therefore, the Fergie understudy is left to try and replicate Fergie's man management, which is much harder to replicate.
Amazing insight there
So, you judging footballer/manager by their appearance. Mikel may have a good professional dressing sense, studious look yet it means nothing...
At the age of 37 he has been assisting manager for one of the best teams in the world and managing UKs 3rd biggest club already. That is impressive already
I mean this is the manager bounce effect right now, look at Moyes, Pearson etc.
exactly, it’s quite funny.
Whatever he has done and is trying to implement has been significantly aided by the fact the players are "just running harder", though.
Good post.
The funny part is they were not even that good. Their first goal was the first real chance of the game. They were lucky they were playing a side who looked like they hardly cared. We did not even try int he first half to compete, making Arsenal look even better. Judging Arteta after just 3 games is really idiotic. All they are doing so far is playing with more intensity which is what happens when a new manager comes. Style wise they still look sloppy in possession and Arteta would need more time to fix that.
I had to laugh last night when Keown said during the game something like "Arteta is constantly giving the players information, NEW information, and they are taking it all on board". Giddy as feck, he was.
Same thing happened here when Ole came in. It's called the new manager bounce. Be interesting to see how Arsenal progress under him
Arteta sprinkled some of that magic he learned from Pep, all over Arsenal players legs and - voila! Much anticipated magic occurred
ARsenal fans getting giddy makes sense. It's our own so called fans who are overrating him is funny. Hey look how good they are, didn't Ole also do the same last year. Arteta should not be judged for another month.
He was making me sick in my mouth during that match yesterday
Arteta sprinkled some of that magic he learned from Pep, all over Arsenal players legs and - voila! Much anticipated magic occurred
Yeah, Arteta is even better than Guardiola himself. We won against City but lost against Arsenal, who have much worse players. They say you're only as good as your last game so Arteta must be the best manager in world football on current form.Arteta sprinkled some of that magic he learned from Pep, all over Arsenal players legs and - voila! Much anticipated magic occurred
Maybe the players just gave up on him and his methods. This has become a new trend in modern football where players just give up once they lose the trust in the management.
Exactly this. A new manager always manages to squeeze out an extra few % from players. A great manager continues to motivate players to keep working hard (SAF’s best attribute, in my opinion, and Wenger to a lesser extent). Some managers add tactical nous but are unable to maintain the same levels of motivation (Mourinho, maybe Guardiola).
Arsenal dominating wasn't just through sheer effort and energy, there was structure to what they were doing, mainly the '5 second win back the ball rule'. It's pretty obvious that once Arteta fitness levels are reached, they are going to be dangerous.Crazy how similar this is to Ole.
Blowing teams out of the park in the first half on pure effort, extreme tiredness in the second and defending deep while the fans are hoping this is somehow a temporary fitness problem because of the lethargic play style of the previous manager. Pretty sure they will have some inspirational win in the Europa League at some point before reality sets in.
