Is Pogba as good as gone?

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I know you said it tongue in cheek but I'd very happily go down that path. As JPRouve has already mentioned his stable isn't all that big and if we never have to deal with him again it would be way too soon. Maybe not for his clients but for the rest of the footballing world the man is pure toxic.
I was serious tbh.
 

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I know what you are referring to and it was about third party ownership, the tweet even tells you that he is talking about the Pogba deal.
I know, but you get my drift. I just find him to be a very nasty fecker, obviously it's not just him but his particular dealings with us and his choice of speaking against our club has made him a very unpleasant person for me, but if that's not enough, he loves to talk shit in general about loads of clubs and people involved in football.
 

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Re: what Raiola said re Ajax getting 150 million for 2 players
Ajax spend millions in developing players and out of all the players only a handful are worth millions - and income from these makes up for the costs incurred to maintain academy.
Raiola on.the other hand takes huge amount of money just to ease the transfer from one club to another - something a simple lawyer can do at a much lower fee.
What is his contribution to the world of football? He s just a sucker
His contribution to football, like all agents, is to help clubs go around the tapping-up rules. Clubs are perfectly happy to use them on a large amount of deals but apparently don't like to pay for it.
 

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He’s off, don’t blame him either! I personally wouldn’t want to waste my prime in a team still trying to figure how to win against relegation fodder.
That’s the spirit! If it isn’t handed to you then go somewhere where it is.
 

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That’s the spirit! If it isn’t handed to you then go somewhere where it is.
What is the point that you are trying to make here? No player can by himself turn a team into something that it's not, we are not talking about an individual sport but one where you need probably 17 appropriate teammates in order to achieve anything. If the club can't provide that, it would be foolish to stay unless if you abandon the idea of playing at the highest level.
 

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What is the point that you are trying to make here? No player can by himself turn a team into something that it's not, we are not talking about an individual sport but one where you need probably 17 appropriate teammates in order to achieve anything. If the club can't provide that, it would be foolish to stay unless if you abandon the idea of playing at the highest level.
Can I introduce you to a truly world class midfielder called Diego Armando Maradonna......
 

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Can I introduce you to a truly world class midfielder called Diego Armando Maradonna......
Maradonna went to Napoli from Barcalona because of his lack of proffesionalism. Pretty sure he would have stayed with the big dog otherwise.
 

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For sure, but at a smaller club at Napoli. Anyway are we going to lambast Pogba for not being as good as Maradonna?
That’s the point he lifted a smaller club to unprecedented success, Pogba doesn’t want to play for United cause it’s gonna be tough to win stuff apparently. He wants Madrid or Juve especially that usually walk their leagues cause it will be easier. That’s the kind of player we don’t need.
 

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That’s the point he lifted a smaller club to unprecedented success, Pogba doesn’t want to play for United cause it’s gonna be tough to win stuff apparently. He wants Madrid or Juve especially that usually walk their leagues cause it will be easier. That’s the kind of player we don’t need.
Yeah feck it. Zidane should have stayed in France. Luiz Ronaldo should have stayed at PSV. Cantona should have stayed at Leeds. Keane never should have left nottingham forest.
 

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Yeah feck it. Zidane should have stayed in France. Luiz Ronaldo should have stayed at PSV. Cantona should have stayed at Leeds. Keane never should have left nottingham forest.
You really are in your own warped little bubble aren’t you :lol:
 

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Why doesn’t the MUFC publicity machine strike back with some comments? I know they say the bigger man is to turn the cheek but this fat pizza twat is mouthing off daily - ffs we are Manchester United - not some Johnny come lately fat agent - fight back and tell the world we are done with him and any players that are with him.......
 

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So Raiola's and Pogba's big problem is still Sir Alex? The fat twat is a pathetic douchebag.
Fergie probably kicked him out from the office. :lol:

Pretty sure he is quite happy he isn't around anymore, so he can continue with this charade.
 

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Can I introduce you to a truly world class midfielder called Diego Armando Maradonna......
Three things. Maradona is arguably the best player ever, so it's not really a normal standard. Secondly, he went to Boca, then went to Barcelona, then Napoli in the last one he turned them into a competitive team but we are talking about pre-bosman football where the concentration of talent wasn't as big and where a couple of top players could make a massive difference.

A last point, for someone complaining about the circus around Pogba, it's a big ironic to introduce Maradona.
 

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Three things. Maradona is arguably the best player ever, so it's not really a normal standard. Secondly, he went to Boca, then went to Barcelona, then Napoli in the last one he turned them into a competitive team but we are talking about pre-bosman football where the concentration of talent wasn't as big and where a couple of top players could make a massive difference.

A last point, for someone complaining about the circus around Pogba, it's a big ironic to introduce Maradona.
I like a good circus pal, the bad ones not so much ;)

Eric was a circus, Ronnie was a circus but all worth it. The 3 and 1/2 years of #pogback not so much.
 

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Raiola is that you??
No, I'm trying to look at it from the POV from an adult professional footballer who wants to pursue his dreams and do what's best for his career. He's not buying into the OGS top 4 trophy next next year. He won titles with Juve, the WC with France and I don't think he sees us competing any time soon.
 

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You really are in your own warped little bubble aren’t you :lol:
What's difference? We've been a top 6 team for 7 years and it looks like we could stay there for 3 years more. . We are Man Utd yeah, we offer high wages and no trophies. Atm Real Madrid and Barcalona can offer both.
 

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I like a good circus pal, the bad ones not so much ;)

Eric was a circus, Ronnie was a circus but all worth it. The 3 and 1/2 years of #pogback not so much.
But that's linked to the success of teams Cantona and Ronaldo played in. Neither of these players would have signed or stayed in this current United and no one would have liked them or their character if both of them weren't part of great teams, with great players. Our perception is directly linked to their context but Pogba who is a lesser player has been surrounded by genuinely poor teammates and with pretty bad coaching too.

That's why I didn't want him and why I predicted that it would turn like this. You don't spend a world record fee on a very good but not great player when you don't have a solid team, it's like having the body of a formula one with the engine of a Fiat Punto.
 

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How does he get away with this? Injured players should always attend matches, home and away. Unless they are in a fecking coma. What a prick.
No prick, injured players should do whatever needed to heal and work on rehabilitation. That doesn't involve being a resident cheerleader, you muck.
 

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How does he get away with this? Injured players should always attend matches, home and away. Unless they are in a fecking coma. What a prick.
I don’t know, we must be old skool pal as his fans see nothing wrong it even though it’s required at most clubs as it helps creates a team spirit. Wasn’t Bale fined recently for leaving early from a Madrid game? Not like they have to sit in the cheap seats either or pay for them.
 

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You of course.
I'm not a Pogba fan, I don't care if he stays or is sold. I want the club to be in the best possible situation
Me too which is why I want this clown out of here, it’s year 4 and it’s getting worse not better. I really think all this will he won’t he play fecked with us against arsenal as well.
 

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Raiola kicking up a fuss suggests two things to me:

1. He’s making a nuisance of himself so Pogba doesn’t have to. All the fuss is on Raiola publicly but it’s United that are taking the flak and I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s communicated that it will continue until his client gets the move he desires.

2. Raiola knows the gravy train has left the station for the last time at United. A year or two ago he knows he would have squeezed everything he wanted out of United and delivered us Haland in return. Our transfer approach has changed now and we either cant or don’t want to spaff money about any more.
 

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Me too which is why I want this clown out of here, it’s year 4 and it’s getting worse not better. I really think all this will he won’t he play fecked with us against arsenal as well.
Shaw, Lingard and Maguire are what fecked with us. Rashford being knackered, Pogba has been a no show this season. His impact on the team playing is very limited, you are giving him way too much importance
 

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Shaw, Lingard and Maguire are what fecked with us. Rashford being knackered, Pogba has been a no show this season. His impact on the team playing is very limited, you are giving him way too much importance
He’s a £100m player, that’s a huge percentage of the value of our player recruitment, never mind the percentage of wages he takes. If he doesn’t want to be here, sell him and get players that do so maybe we don’t have to rely on the players you mentioned and also being knackered because this clown is constantly leaving us a man down in our small squad as it is.
 

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He’s a £100m player, that’s a huge percentage of the value of our player recruitment, never mind the percentage of wages he takes. If he doesn’t want to be here, sell him and get players that do so maybe we don’t have to rely on the players you mentioned and also being knackered because this clown is constantly leaving us a man down in our small squad as it is.
Like I have always said, the club should sell if the fee is interesting enough but knowing the morons at our helm, they won't reinvest that money wisely anyway.
We will be fecked either way as long as we don't change owners
 

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Like I have always said, the club should sell if the fee is interesting enough but knowing the morons at our helm, they won't reinvest that money wisely anyway.
We will be fecked either way as long as we don't change owners
I think I’ve made my views on the owners and Ed clear also so your preaching to the choir here but as that ain’t gonna change anytime soon we can only focus on what can be changed. Sell Pogba and buy players that want this challenge, they won’t be as good as Pogba on paper but they will be more helpful guaranteed.
 

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Why is it hard to believe he’s injured?
There is literally no information coming out about it. No detail at all.
The player says nothing about it when he practically lives on social media
His Agent shit talking - again Pogba saying nothing.
Him fecking off to France when he should be recuperating or pushing for a quick surgery to get back.
He does or says nothing to tell me he is committed to Manchester United and mark my words when he leaves, which he will, he will start shite talking about how bad United are and this that an the other.

He has bags of talent but he has been a Massive let down for me.