Asger
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Just like you and more fans defend the players.People will somehow continue to defend Ole after this
Just like you and more fans defend the players.People will somehow continue to defend Ole after this
To have a good season we genuinely had to go through the season without any injuries at all.It speaks volumes that Jones is your best alternative to an injured Maguire.
The state of our squad is shocking.
Because he's not in medieval times apparently.
But if he's not how does he explain his tactics?
I can't stand him either but no need for thatHis mum is a mess so he must play now until the end of time
I'm being negative because we've just got outplayed by City who didn't break a sweat. Got taunted by City fans the whole match and we have manager who is absolutely fecking useless. Think we're allowed to be negative.Head Wobbled. Oh...look! we scored 1 with no reply in the second half. Christ some people are negative. There's not a chance a United team under our previous managers would play football like we did in the second half against City.
Pretty accurate description of the game. James I feel is unfortunate, as I would have expected him to be mainly a bench player this season, getting a few starts in cups and around Christmas and Easter times, but he has been thrust into a situation where he is still coming to terms with Premiership football, but I think he needs a break now, and I would give Chong another shot on the RW, as he did ok against Wolves. Thought Gomes did ok when he came on, created the goal by winning the ball and finding Greenwood in space, just a hint of what these young lads are capable of, didn't look out of place at all, definitely keep him in instead of Lingard, who is really struggling. A new start with another club may be the best for him really.- Brandon Williams was our best player tonight. Actually showed some tactical acumen and wasn't one dimensional going forward.
- Fred was good and energetic against a very good City press. He's inconsistent in the final third, but we'd be a shambles without him
- Matic was actually very good with the ball. Probably the only midfielder we have who can slot balls in between lines to move play forward.
- James eventually has to be dropped for Greenwood. If this is a meritocracy then it's only fair that Mason has warranted a role in the front three. I like James as a character and I think he's a good tactical fit, but he's not been productive in a while and I think we ought to send the right messages to the players that places must be earned.
- Same as above for Lingard, regarding earning his place. Just not cutting it, I'm afraid. Being a good tactical fit in terms of profile is one thing, but you have to be productive in some form, statistically. Either score, assist or make key passes.
- Rashford took the goal well but his general play is just unforgivable. There's always teammates in a better position and he never sees it. His head is always down, or he's dribbling into a dead end, or worse, he's already thinking about shooting at 40 yards. He's fine as a scorer of goals when he gets the chances, but he needs to be a better player, period.
I'm neither Ole in or Ole out, but you have to give a fair appraisal when it's necessary. It's okay to not win titles, and it's okay to expect a period of transition and development over time, but it's never okay to not have a discernible pattern of tactical identity this long into a managerial reign. We need to see something tactical where we can clearly identify that something is being worked on in training.
You are deluded. This team are the worst I've seen in 49 years and the manager is just as bad. Let's stop making excuses and realise we have serious problems.
He’s a dickheadI can't stand him either but no need for that
No. Its posters in this thread. It's embarrassing.Did Ole say this ?
Steamin' in the first, ok in the second.
Phil Jones though jesus christ.
I think what worried people most was how much that first half highlighted the gulf in class between our two clubs. It's shameful how much better equipped they are considering they have spent only £200 million more than United on incoming transfers since SAF retired.Oh come on, I'm not getting into this. City were amazing in the first half and ripped our far worse team apart. Like i said I'm as much for getting rid of Ole as anyone but we got beat 3-1 by an amazing team, big deal.
There are plenty of other examples of why Ole is the wrong manager for us, you don't need to try use that result.
You’re a glass half full kind of a guy obviously.Feel sorry for the fans that made it to the stadium to have to watch that, especially in the first half. I was only watching it on my sky go that i get through my fathers account.
Hopefully that is the end of Lingard. If he is starting against Norwich, i wont bother watching the game.
Absolutely. We looked busy, but not really expectant at all. Like a First XI against a reserve match. City could have scored six in the first half, and that isn't even an exaggeration.Men against boys
it's funny how it's the players when Ole is in charge the same players under Jose was Jose's faultJust like you and more fans defend the players.
I want your job! You earn circa 400k!If Jones wasn't earning more in a year then what I do in 10 years I would feel sorry for him. He's so out of his depth, it's sad really.
Your last paragraph is brilliant and on the point.- Brandon Williams was our best player tonight. Actually showed some tactical acumen and wasn't one dimensional going forward.
- Fred was good and energetic against a very good City press. He's inconsistent in the final third, but we'd be a shambles without him
- Matic was actually very good with the ball. Probably the only midfielder we have who can slot balls in between lines to move play forward.
- James eventually has to be dropped for Greenwood. If this is a meritocracy then it's only fair that Mason has warranted a role in the front three. I like James as a character and I think he's a good tactical fit, but he's not been productive in a while and I think we ought to send the right messages to the players that places must be earned.
- Same as above for Lingard, regarding earning his place. Just not cutting it, I'm afraid. Being a good tactical fit in terms of profile is one thing, but you have to be productive in some form, statistically. Either score, assist or make key passes.
- Rashford took the goal well but his general play is just unforgivable. There's always teammates in a better position and he never sees it. His head is always down, or he's dribbling into a dead end, or worse, he's already thinking about shooting at 40 yards. He's fine as a scorer of goals when he gets the chances, but he needs to be a better player, period.
I'm neither Ole in or Ole out, but you have to give a fair appraisal when it's necessary. It's okay to not win titles, and it's okay to expect a period of transition and development over time, but it's never okay to not have a discernible pattern of tactical identity this long into a managerial reign. We need to see something tactical where we can clearly identify that something is being worked on in training.
You'd think after watching that shite, Woody will get his finger out and make squad additions over the coming weeks.To have a good season we genuinely had to go through the season without any injuries at all.
Even missing 1 or 2 and we have to bring in complete and utter dogshit like Jones or Lingard. The squad is disgracefully poor.
A goal in the first leg of a semi final to make it 1-3. By first half showing we could well have lost 4 or 5 maybe even 6 to 0 so it is never meaningless. It could mean everything.A meaningless consolation goal after a thrashing at home should be enough to see Ole keep his job.
Mike Dean