They also brought "freebie" injury prone players who couldn't string 3 games in a row. They were the textbook of what not to do, and Wenger, from one of the most exciting innovative managers became "getting the fourth place" manager. He is the living proof that playing it safe can be a slow and painful downfall.
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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They also brought "freebie" injury prone players who couldn't string 3 games in a row. They were the textbook of what not to do, and Wenger, from one of the most exciting innovative managers became "getting the fourth place" manager. He is the living proof that playing it safe can be a slow and painful downfall.
We are one of the biggest clubs in the world , we don't try for as many points as we can , we don't need to whine when the depth and quality of our squad is so poor it means humiliation every week. Your description of the current situation makes me think you are Boris Johnson. Real , Barcelona , Bayern would not and do not tolerate what has is happening at our club.
The players coming through and recent buys are poor. The style ( style , lol) of play is of a very , very poor standard. Everton , fecking Everton get one of the best managers in Europe , we chase a striker who chooses a club that he believes is better than ours for his footballing future. We think the class of 99 posses the Fergie factor , we have no midfield and pamper to a prima Donna see Mctominay as some sort of genius and refuse to see that there is no fight or grit in our team. This really is our most darkest hour. We need to be aggressive in the market and find a motivator and like the other big clubs be utterly ruthless if success is not forthcoming.
Darren Fletcher is Ole in for what it's worth. Maybe give this a listen lads.
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Another job Interview for a position at the club. Where are we going to fit them all in?
It's also a massive insult to Fergie's genius to suggest that given time anyone could replicate what he did.
The only ingredient in becoming the best manager in the world is being given time. Got it!
8 more votes until 1999 people want him gone
Fletcher and Rio joint sporting directors. Ole manager. Bring in Neville as assistant head coach.
Lets go lets go to the Championship.
Lets go lets go to the Championship.
I can't believe he's still not been sacked yet. His squad mismanagement is part of the reason why we've got an ever-growing injury list. Maguire played too many games, he didn't need to play vs Colchester, Solskjaer is a bloody idiot.
The irony
I've said this before but I'm gonna say it again: the level of incompetence shown by Ole is truly astonishing. He's barely competent for a Championship club, let alone United.
I guess every single one of us here understands the limitation of our squad, and the board certainly has some parts in it, but don't forget Ole is also responsible in building the squad. The lack of rotation frome Ole makes our players more susceptible to injury (look at the gametime of McTominay and Maguire), and the lack of squad depth makes us vulnerable when we get injuries.
With the same squad, Mourinho managed to win 3 titles and finish 2nd in the league, that's what you call "competitive". Even he struggles in the 3rd season, the performance is still better what we are playing now.
Ole relegated Cardiff as the dead last place in the league, then was sitting pretty at the 17th place in the Championship when he was sacked. That's while he was allowed to sign 17 players.
I think you're being generous there.
I cannot for the life of me figure out what's happening at the club, it would appear we're going to sell players and possibly replace them or maybe not. I think Ole will be gone at the end of the season and then we might get our new manager in and see how he goes with a paper thin squad.
Why hasn’t Ole been sacked?
If you look at recent United history, you will see a great deal of criticism and pressure has been put on managers and players by United ex-players such as Scholes, Gary Neville, Ferdinand and Giggs. Some of that criticism is still directed at Pogba and Martial. My belief is that some of these ex-players are all working behind the scenes in support of Ole. I don’t think Ole would have had the wherewithal to be able to move our transfer policy all by himself, but if Ole, supported by a group of ex-players met with Ed Woodward at the end of last season, Ed had to listen to them.
Now, all Woodward has to do is wait and see how far this Brexit FC policies will carry us. It’s a low cost transfer policy, and he has the advantage of having the support of the ex-players so they will continue with this at least to the end of the season. If the Brexit FC policy works, Woodward wins, as he will then have a low-cost transfer policy and the rebuild that has been promised since SAF left. And if the Brexit FC policy doesn’t work, Woodward wins because he will then be able to recruit a high caliber coach and a few big name players to get the higher marketing value he wants, but he will then have some leverage over some ex-players crying “foul” and overtly critizising any other modern football managers and star players he may get in the future. Ed would be happy either way, and as long as we compete for top 4. There’s no reason to fire Ole now.
If you look at recent United history, you will see a great deal of criticism and pressure has been put on managers and players by United ex-players such as Scholes, Gary Neville, Ferdinand and Giggs. Some of that criticism is still directed at Pogba and Martial. My belief is that some of these ex-players are all working behind the scenes in support of Ole. I don’t think Ole would have had the wherewithal to be able to move our transfer policy all by himself, but if Ole, supported by a group of ex-players met with Ed Woodward at the end of last season, Ed had to listen to them.
Now, all Woodward has to do is wait and see how far this Brexit FC policies will carry us. It’s a low cost transfer policy, and he has the advantage of having the support of the ex-players so they will continue with this at least to the end of the season. If the Brexit FC policy works, Woodward wins, as he will then have a low-cost transfer policy and the rebuild that has been promised since SAF left. And if the Brexit FC policy doesn’t work, Woodward wins because he will then be able to recruit a high caliber coach and a few big name players to get the higher marketing value he wants, but he will then have some leverage over some ex-players crying “foul” and overtly critizising any other modern football managers and star players he may get in the future. Ed would be happy either way, and as long as we compete for top 4. There’s no reason to fire Ole now.
There is no way anyone is going to succeed with that policy. Unless it is a backdoor plan for the class of 92 to take over the club?
At Cardiff critics said Ole couldn't finalize his playing 11 in 9 months and that was his problem. This is in the context of what he said that this season will be used to finalize next season's squad. I hope he gets his pieces right in the summer because that will be his last chance.
What are you talking about?
Well, I don't think Brexit FC policy is low cost at all. As we all know, English players tend to have a higher price tag. We can also expect fierce competition for a limited number of quality English players. It is very unlikely this policy will work in long term as it filters out many good foreign players and leaves very few targets in the pool.
So whats your solution then?Sack him now and try to appoint any half decent manager who’s available?
Who’s available?
We are keeping him through the summer?
If you were getting surgery done and you had the choice of:
Inexperienced surgeon who is inclusive, a positive person, came from your town and you really liked him a lot. He has never completed this operation successfully.
or
An experienced surgeon who you don't know and is not from your town. He has completed many of these operations successfully.
Inexperienced surgeon who is inclusive, a positive person, came from your town and you really liked him a lot. He has never completed this operation successfully.
or
An experienced surgeon who you don't know and is not from your town. He has completed many of these operations successfully.
We as in redcafe? Then he is already sacked, bugger is refusing to go.
If you are talking about the board then they have not sent any signal otherwise.
New out on Sky:
Christian Eriksen rejecting us
Ole wanting to give Ashley Young an extension
Who the feck is writing this script? We're a burning building and nobody wants to save us except Ole Golly
Christian Eriksen rejecting us
Ole wanting to give Ashley Young an extension
Who the feck is writing this script? We're a burning building and nobody wants to save us except Ole Golly
Hmmm. You are right, thanks for the points you make.
Does ha have a bubbly personality?
The new one whose trying to make an impression, the experienced one has become complacent - we’re talking about Ole and Jose right?
Picked sack but it is a tough one. He's not signed the players he likes yet going by his quotes that he wants reinforcements. However do we give him another £100 million or more if we are not entirely confident in him. There are still slight moments of promise like Spurs and Man City in December.
I just hope if we do appoint a Pochettino or Allegri we properly back them with quality players otherwise we may as well stick with Ole.
I just hope if we do appoint a Pochettino or Allegri we properly back them with quality players otherwise we may as well stick with Ole.
Why would Eriksen want to come here ? He's 27 and wants to win things, something that's not going to happen under the current manager or board.
"With the same squad". That's funny.
He chose the wrong area in the summer to spend140m.
Should have fixed the defence next year with midfield and attacking this year. Look at how Klopp did. He was always confident that he could outscore the opponents .
Should have fixed the defence next year with midfield and attacking this year. Look at how Klopp did. He was always confident that he could outscore the opponents .
If my last 2 surgeons were super experienced, but both still botched it up, leaving me crippled for the next few years, I'd probably be tempted to take my chances with the new guy.
Actually when Ole got the position he had the same squad. He sold some and bought some. So it even outs in the end.
1999 sack votes!! He should get sacked on this. Would be a perfect send off from the Café.
No it doesn't. You implied Mou had the same squad and finished 2nd in the league. Our squad is very different from 2 years ago. There have been improvements, AWB and Maguire, and there have been positions that have gotten worse. You just can't compare the two squads and it's silly to try.
I do think a manager who can properly coach players could get more out of this team,however I wouldn't expect to see a new manager achieve things due to our pathetic board and leeching owners not willing to fully back them.
True, but the horrible truth is that the back ups are such a big drop in quality that it often ends up costing us points. Mata and Matic for example were both fine players in their day, but its clear they are both well past it, same with Young.
Maybe Maguire should have been rested more, but with Rojo, Baily and Tuanzebe injured, that means we have to play Jones
When your last surgeon gave you the second best surgery in the country, while also sending you an unexpected box of chocolates of Europa brand after the surgery, but then inexplicably when he wanted you to co-operate for the surgery next year you refused to even talk to him.
Yeah sure it's the surgeons fault.
Enjoy your gruesome death at the hands of the friendly neighborhood surgeon who's bubbly and runs around a lot, but cut off your dick while doing bypass on you and them blamed it on the nurses.
This has nothing to do with Ole but can some of you lunatics not go to extreme examples when trying to defend things. People express their views about our football and here they come with " you glory hunters think there is a manager out there who can win PL with this squad?", how about no but maybe they think there is a manager out their who can bring more out of current squad and teach/train properly those useless pricks, improve football and them at least for 2% of their max.
fecking hell, you aint even helping your own agenda, just invite more push backs from opposite side.
fecking hell, you aint even helping your own agenda, just invite more push backs from opposite side.
Don't for your own life sake.
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