No shock really.. it’s as John Terry; Phil Jones (if he was good) stereotypical as it gets.
Solskjaer confirmed Maguire will be the new club captain
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Lindelof hasn't outclassed him.
Leicester fans admitted a player they sold is in hindsight no leader. Wonderful. I'm sure there's absolutely zero bitterness there.
Maguire has proven his willingness to play through injury for the club. He has taken ownership of the defense which is allowing fewest shots in the league, 5th most goals, and have the 2nd lowest xGA. He's clearly improved us defensively despite how much many supporters want to pretend we're just as poor as we were last season when we had our worst defensive stats in the PL era.
It would be great if we had more qualified candidates who had been at the club longer than Maguire, but we don't. Other than Rashford, there isn't even a single person at the club who I care has been "passed over".
Thought De Gea was robbed when it was given to Young, but this seems a good choice.
DDG is more deserving, but I can understand why you don't want the goalkeeper to be the captain.
So excluding DDG, who is more deserving? Rashford and McTominay may have something going for them, but they are too young in my opinion. Pogba is a decent candidate, but we don't know what will happen this summer. It would be embarrassing for the club if he got the armband and left a few months later.
So excluding DDG, who is more deserving? Rashford and McTominay may have something going for them, but they are too young in my opinion. Pogba is a decent candidate, but we don't know what will happen this summer. It would be embarrassing for the club if he got the armband and left a few months later.
We have so few leaders in this team, might just give it to Slab till the end of the season.
Was the correct candidate you need someone who’s going to be vocal on the pitch, He can see what’s going on around him so perfect fit.
just have a word with Maddison about coming also
just have a word with Maddison about coming also
Take it however you wish.
same here and its really crazy as im probably one of his biggest fans. Love the guy, love his personality , his game , the way he goes about life in general. But right now ive just checked out and see him as someone else's player
I don't like this decision from day one. It has nothing to do with Maguire. My general opinion is that being a captain of one club, especially big like Man Utd, is something what player must earn. He got armband after 2 or 3 months. It is ridiculous. That is huge disrespect to De gea who is here 7 years and our best player. And to some other players also. I am not saying that De gea or Mata or Rashford or somebody else are better options but still, it is too soon to give Maguire armband.
Of course, i am presuming that this is Ole's decision. If players had say in this decision and they picked Maguire then ok. That means that Maguire is a true leader if he managed to earn that respect from players in this short period
Of course, i am presuming that this is Ole's decision. If players had say in this decision and they picked Maguire then ok. That means that Maguire is a true leader if he managed to earn that respect from players in this short period
So...
Maguire has been given the armband after 5 months of utterly underwhelming performances...?
This is crazy. It's literally like there is some kind of spell over Utd where every decision that matters must go in the most surreal, counter-intuitive direction.
'We need a new manager and many great managers will want this job right now' - Gives it to David Moyes
'We need to give Moyes a contract, he's an unproven manager at this level and many voices are already mocking the decision... how long shall we make the contract? - 6 years
'We've hired LvG and got him to instill a possession based game - who do we hire to follow on from him?' - Jose Mourinho
'Ok, Mourinho has won us 2 trophies and finished 2nd, but now he wants Harry Maguire' - Don't back him
'We've sacked Mourinho and are now looking to employ a manager to get us back to modern footy and challenging' - Hires Molde and Cardiff's old gaffer
We need a new CB... - Buys Maguire for more than when Mourinho was denied him (!!!)
We need a new club captain. We have DDG, Rashford and Pogba as the most logical candidates, Marcus Rashford is an academy graduate, from Manchester, who is emerging as our best striker and we're desperate to keep him here for years...
Gives it to Harry Maguire after 4/5 months of underwhelming performances
It's like a comedy sketch - like they're incapable of making any sound decision on the footy side of things.
Maguire has been given the armband after 5 months of utterly underwhelming performances...?
This is crazy. It's literally like there is some kind of spell over Utd where every decision that matters must go in the most surreal, counter-intuitive direction.
'We need a new manager and many great managers will want this job right now' - Gives it to David Moyes
'We need to give Moyes a contract, he's an unproven manager at this level and many voices are already mocking the decision... how long shall we make the contract? - 6 years
'We've hired LvG and got him to instill a possession based game - who do we hire to follow on from him?' - Jose Mourinho
'Ok, Mourinho has won us 2 trophies and finished 2nd, but now he wants Harry Maguire' - Don't back him
'We've sacked Mourinho and are now looking to employ a manager to get us back to modern footy and challenging' - Hires Molde and Cardiff's old gaffer
We need a new CB... - Buys Maguire for more than when Mourinho was denied him (!!!)
We need a new club captain. We have DDG, Rashford and Pogba as the most logical candidates, Marcus Rashford is an academy graduate, from Manchester, who is emerging as our best striker and we're desperate to keep him here for years...
Gives it to Harry Maguire after 4/5 months of underwhelming performances
It's like a comedy sketch - like they're incapable of making any sound decision on the footy side of things.
Quit crying. If you haven't realised our defence is actually better then you need to watch some football games.
He is clearly a leader on the pitch and the players seem to respect him.
DDG is not a leader, he can barely even command the backline.
Pogba wants to leave, so whats the point giving a player captaincy who doesn't want to be here?
Rashford is a leader on the pitch, he already has enough on his young shoulders.
I’m fine with this. He’s our best central defender, is never injured and has a big role to play for both United and England. That he’s been given the captaincy suggests he has something about him.
Plus, we lack genuine options. De Gea is a big jessy and Pogba will, in all likelihood, be off come the summer. There is nobody else.
Plus, we lack genuine options. De Gea is a big jessy and Pogba will, in all likelihood, be off come the summer. There is nobody else.
Stop whining like a baby about other people having opinions that differ from your own.
Maguire has shown absolutely nothing on the pitch to deserve such a position - and his performances since joinging us as the most expensive defender of all time are underwhelming to say the least.
If he was foreign, the mere notion of him being handed the Captaincy from what he's achieved here thus far would be laughed out of the room.
Look at Leicester's defence post Maguire ffs.
Captaincy is about character rather than being somewhere for a long time. I don't know why people keep missing this.
While there are players who are captains on performance rather than on leadership, I don't think Rashford, for instance should ever be our captain. Whereas someone like McTominay could well grow to become one.
While there are players who are captains on performance rather than on leadership, I don't think Rashford, for instance should ever be our captain. Whereas someone like McTominay could well grow to become one.
You can have different opinions but clearly you lack the understanding of what it takes to be a captain if you are mentioning Pogba as a potential.
IMO, I think you are incorrect because we look alot more composed, we statistically have improved defensively by facing less shots on goal.
In respects to being foreign this is because he understands the league, he is English and knows what Manutd are about.
You do realise it takes more than 1 individual to have a good defence? Leicester have a settled back 4 and a proper DM.
We have conceded 3 more goals than Leicester this season, and they have scored 11 more goals than us.
So when we don't score goals no one blames an individual striker, but defensively one individual is to blame?
Every coach has his way for selecting a captain. What do you think how Ole did it? Did he give few names to players and then they voted or he asked few senior players for opinion or this was 100% his call?
Had a feeling you'd know the answer. Incredible stat, thanks
Well chosen. Ole has been constantly pointing out Maguire's leadership behind the scenes. I hope he puts more pressure on the refs when the likes of James and Rashford get roughed up.
McTominay would be a better choice than Maguire!
Good choice, given the options. Maguire has shown leadership on the pitch at the times when it's needed. Rashford's personality isn't quite right for it - he's supportive, but not commanding - and that's fine. DeGea lacks something for it, can't quite put my finger on it. McTominay would have been my only other option, but he's too young for it yet and doesn't quite command the field like I've seen Maguire do. Pogba's future is in doubt, and no other player on the field has shown the talent to be consistently in the starting XI and the personality to be a captain. And that's fine, too.
New player with little experience at the highest level, who is performing at an underwhelming level. Gotta justify that 80m price tag somehow, I guess.
Personally I’d like McTominay but I think that’s too soon.
He is captain material.
He is captain material.
While his captaincy isn't a surprise, it's sad to see the lack of characters at the first team level nowadays. Someone who had that bravado, swagger, and could back it up with their play more times than not. And I'm not talking about going into a robust challenge or busting a gut, I'm saying total fecking package going forward, defending, doing the things for the team in order to win.
United's missing those types of players (as are Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, etc.) which is why they cannot make that jump into serious PL contenders. Even Leicester have Vardy, who doesn't give two fecks.
United's missing those types of players (as are Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, etc.) which is why they cannot make that jump into serious PL contenders. Even Leicester have Vardy, who doesn't give two fecks.
Very happy with this. He's outspoken about his desire to play for the club and his teammates. He has a physical on pitch presence. He puts himself out there and wants to play even if he's injured, and by all accounts he commands respect in the dressing room.
All of this in combination with the prestige of being one of Englands centerbacks makes him the ideal candidate for the captaincy. Very hard to argue with this one.
All of this in combination with the prestige of being one of Englands centerbacks makes him the ideal candidate for the captaincy. Very hard to argue with this one.
Been pretty underwhelmed by him - but he will be a mainstay in the team for years and plays all the time, so it makes sense.
To be fair though, the captaincy is something I care a lot less about then most people seem to do.
To be fair though, the captaincy is something I care a lot less about then most people seem to do.
Yes he has. Especially in he last couple of weeks Lindelöf has been better than Maguire. Not only in defending but also in his passing & playing out from the back. And this is coming from someone who doesn't rate Lindelöf & prefers Rojo, Bailly etc. over the Swede.
I don't think there's any bitterness in Leicester fans' assessment of Maguire's leadership abilities at all as they've got the better of that deal and are not in a position like their best player taken or anything. If anything, they're probably delighted with this transfer now considering the fee they've got and Çağlar Söyüncü's development this season. There was an idea coming from United fans in the summer that Maguire was a leader at the back for Leicester and resident Leicester fans here always said Maguire was not a leader but Wes Morgan was the one in their defence so maybe that's an argument to correct the myths rather than bitterness.
Don't really believe our defence is improved from previous seasons but don't want to get into the same discussions again and again.
I agree that we don't have many qualified candidates for captaincy & lack strong characters in our squad but still it's absurd that a player goes to a big club and become a club captain in a couple of weeks/months. Especially when his performances have been underwhelming.
Lindelof hasn't outclassed him at any point, no. When Maguire was out of the side against City, Lindelof looked like a complete clown trying to organize anything defensively and was awful playing out from the back.
He was and he is for United. That Leicester have a proper DM and replaced Maguire adequately with Soyuncu doesn't change that. Kudos to Leicester on the great business they did, but Wes fecking Morgan was not leading Maguire anywhere. That's utter nonsense.
Maguire got it because we have no leaders on the pitch. Maguire being "one eyed in the world of blind" hardly means earned it
We've got plenty of leaders now, Maguire, Williams, McTominay, Rashford they're all leaders
Personally I prefer my "leaders" leading by example. Rashford would be a far more obvious choice... Works hard, puts in continued positive performances and is an example to young players of the benefits of hard work and enterprise from academy to one of the top attackers in world football.
Appointing Maguire after half a season of progressively poor performances and failing to do the basics (keeping a strict offside line, basic positioning and simple passing) sends out the absolute wrong message. A message of English hype, mediocrity and posture over actual performance/ability/hard work.
Appointing Rashford was a no brainer.
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Maguire is bang average. Too slow to be a top defender. Its no coincidence that Leicester's defense has improved since he left
Well that's not gonna sit well against some narratives...
Not shocked at this, it was pretty telegrahped when we bought him owing to the dearth of captain material in the team.
Not sure who else people think should get it given the circumstances. DDG doesn't look to be captain material on the pitch, Rash should be left to do his thing and McT is too young.
Its been obvious from watching games that Maguire is taking on that role even when not captain.
Not sure who else people think should get it given the circumstances. DDG doesn't look to be captain material on the pitch, Rash should be left to do his thing and McT is too young.
Its been obvious from watching games that Maguire is taking on that role even when not captain.
I’m hoping like most players Maguire has a much more dominant second season with us. It really highlights the state of the playing staff when someone who’s been at the club less than a year and isn’t playing great is made the club captain. It’s also saying this team had been leaderless for so long. It’s basically because he’s England captain? Anyway I reckon Harry will be much more assured next season and hopefully will lead by example. A slightly baffling decision at the moment though!
The right decision and hardly a surprise. De Gea isn't a leader, Pogba will be gone in the summer and McTominay isn't certain to be a first team player when we improve the team.
Yes, great comment. I agree with this 100% (or, as footballers put it, 110%).
Completely agree. Well said.
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