Imagine spending £80m on a player like Harry Maguire but now we decide it's time to take a stand and not let clubs fleece us.
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Well firstly, I noticed his energy and movement. He made good runs and popped up in the right areas offensively and defensively. He made a good tackle tracking back in his own box. He looked like a player who has comfort on the ball, the few times he touched it too.
Now added to the fact that he’s a player who was pursued, allegedly, by Spurs, West Ham, United and Chelsea - and my first viewing of him, the impression I left with is that he looks to have something. Whatever he does have, my thinking was that he isn’t one of the foreign players who will be unable to show it due to nerves, panic etc. First thing I noticed was his willingness to get involved, and he seems confident. Makes me feel that whatever talent he has that made these clubs chase him will likely be showcased.
It was 10 minutes. I liked my first viewing. It could have been very different. Often you see loose touch, nerves etc, poor decisions. Similar to how Chong has typically played in the first team. That was his first game, away from home and he looked comfortable. That’s it really.
You know how it goes , we get “linked” with Player A , nothing comes of it and Player A goes to rival club. Player A is going to be great we missed out blah blah blah
Watched the Sporting game, and have to say was really unimpressed with his lack of presence in the game.
He made a couple of runs and one good pass, he is an international player, so he's clearly not a bad player but Im not seeing a £80m player thats going to make a big difference to us to be honest.
When he comes to Premier League, he wont have nowhere near as much as time on the ball, so his first touch needs to be better.
Will welcome him if he comes but not bothered if he doesn't... As long as we get someone that improves the midfield!!
He made a couple of runs and one good pass, he is an international player, so he's clearly not a bad player but Im not seeing a £80m player thats going to make a big difference to us to be honest.
When he comes to Premier League, he wont have nowhere near as much as time on the ball, so his first touch needs to be better.
Will welcome him if he comes but not bothered if he doesn't... As long as we get someone that improves the midfield!!
The club doesn't seem to mind getting taken to the cleaners over 'Prem proven' players
Woodward didn't seem to mind paying over the odds for a mid from the Ukrainian league 2 summers ago though, would be a shame to see this not go through over a couple extra million pounds.
We've desperately needed at least 2 mids since last summer, getting replacements in in January was always going to be a tough task but it's necessary if we have any top 4 aspirations
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You obviously haven’t read many posts of mine.
I just hope we haven't stopped looking at other potential transfers because this one has dragged on for so long.
Fair enough. I didn't notice all that, saw him making good run and then made a bit of weak first touch.
That's PL and English player tax though. Everyone knows he wasn't worth £80m. He'd have cost us £45/50m if he was Italian or French.
I'm all for going big for players if its justified, but it isn't for Bruno. They're asking way more than his value, we shouldn't give in.
We should rightly walk away if they're trying to get 80m - no one's going to pay that.
You were right all along. It was not just the scuffed shot, think I also saw him take a mighty impressive throw in. Also looked super comfortable on the ball the three times he touched it. It's a fecking disgrace how the club didn't even try to sign this potential megastar.
I dunno I'm pretty confident itll still happen. Hope it does at least. Dont care about fees, we need midfielders desperately and it could be a huge help in going for the Europa league this year.
Absolutely. I did think about mentioning that as well
If Sporting really did change the quoted fee then fair enough if United walk away. I feel like it will get done. Just Sporting trying to get as much as possible given their situation. They need money, Spurs walked away in the summer, they can't really afford to have United do the same. Hopefully United will pay a little more and they'll accept. That's my view.
From the outset it should have been clear if Sporting were going to move.
Why even enter into this if they were not going to budge.
Woodward will come out of this blaming Sporting.
And we will have no midfield.
Its crazy.
Why even enter into this if they were not going to budge.
Woodward will come out of this blaming Sporting.
And we will have no midfield.
Its crazy.
Okay.
I highly doubt they doubled his valuation, that was probably always the valuation and United's PR team have spun it so it looks like Sporting changed their asking price.
Yet another transfer saga where we come out looking inept, pretends to be shocked....
Yet another transfer saga where we come out looking inept, pretends to be shocked....
Perhaps I just despise playing the long game. We take ridiculously long to finalize a deal when others can complete a signing out of nowhere ie. Bayern.
Anyhow, I wish they would firm up the deal. Cut some of the add-ons. It's not only Man Utd that needs a player, Sporting also needs to sell (as I've heard). Better yet, the player also wants to leave.
Ugh. Just want to get this over with.
Sporting knew United needed a Midfielder and how fans are angry with owners and took advantage of that situation. They offered him for less money and then raised it so that United feel the pressure and pay it. We should just walk away from this deal. Not a single club out there is interested in him at that price and Sporting would find it tough to sell him for what they want.
As far as players are concerned, we will have Pogba and Scott back in February, mostly after the break. I don't even think Bruno will settle by that time so I guess we can get away by not buying this window. Walking away will also send a signal that we won't overpay and will help in negotiations later.
Also I do think that people need to realize that we might have settled on him because of the deal we thought we are getting. For higher money, we might not be interested as it looks like from media report.
As far as players are concerned, we will have Pogba and Scott back in February, mostly after the break. I don't even think Bruno will settle by that time so I guess we can get away by not buying this window. Walking away will also send a signal that we won't overpay and will help in negotiations later.
Also I do think that people need to realize that we might have settled on him because of the deal we thought we are getting. For higher money, we might not be interested as it looks like from media report.
Get that. Like buying a house, it shouldn't take months to agree with the buying price.
No idea who you are should I be ?
How do you know we aren’t? Remember when we were being fecked around over Morientes according to the press and then signed Lukaku in the space of 3 or 4 days? Turned out we had been working on Lukaku for 5 months and he was our primary target.
We’ve definitely got our primary targets and we will definitely have enquires about their availability this window but it’s very unlikely they will be available if they’re the sort of quality that is needed to take us up a level or two.
It was Morata, not Morientes. Sadly, our primary target did not work out that time though. And we won't be able to get the elite players to join us if we do not show improvement on the field, which is why we need to get the players who want to help us get back to where we belong first.
It's the same story with Maguire. Of course clubs will set a high price when we make it so blatantly obvious we desperately need their player. The whole world knew Maguire was the defender we were after and the club saw him as the player we desperately needed. Same thing is happening with Bruno. It also doesn't help when we make it look as if we have no other alternatives.
For any club, the smartest thing to do is set a high price and dont budge on it unless the club itself is desperately in need of money
For any club, the smartest thing to do is set a high price and dont budge on it unless the club itself is desperately in need of money
In your opinion which is closer to within 5% of his value, £45m + £15m or £65m + £15m?
Kaveh Solhekol@SkyKaveh·1mManchester United letting it be known they won’t overpay for Bruno Fernandes. Sporting well within their rights to ask for £68m for midfielder who’s scored almost 50 times in 18 months. United well within their rights not to pay fortunes to agents who’ve muscled in on the deal
Great so now it's agents at fault again?? Get a bloody technical director if you can't handle them you bloody bankers.
Great so now it's agents at fault again?? Get a bloody technical director if you can't handle them you bloody bankers.
He wouldn't cost only 80m if that's the case. And we wouldn't stand a chance signing him anyway. I feel some need to be more realistic.
I hope he and the board get ravaged by United away support tomorrow.
United have paid a bit of a tax with transfers for a long time now because the club is wealthy.
Woodward came into the role of Chief Executive and bragged that he could do things in the market that others could only dream of.
Ever since, selling clubs have insisted he put his money where is mouth is.
Woodward came into the role of Chief Executive and bragged that he could do things in the market that others could only dream of.
Ever since, selling clubs have insisted he put his money where is mouth is.
The smart thing now would be to stop negotiating with Sporting and sign Marcos Llorente. This will put us in a strong negotiating position.
Furthermore, we must act how Madrid and Barca do, i.e. they make the player kick up a fuss which puts the selling club in a weak position. Do all this and hopefully we can seal this deal at 50m euros and 10m euros add ons.
Furthermore, we must act how Madrid and Barca do, i.e. they make the player kick up a fuss which puts the selling club in a weak position. Do all this and hopefully we can seal this deal at 50m euros and 10m euros add ons.
We're not signing him -- this is what Woodward does.
Neither surely.
And I picked it as a number.
My point was if we are close to what Sporting wants, we can offer add ons which can meet or exceed what they are asking.'
And if we spend so much time on one player and it does not work out, we missed our chance to buy another player.
So unprofessional.
This. 100%.
Everyone knows City are minted (thanks to their owner) but they don't get ripped off often because they keep it all in house and are well ran.
It’s not that deep, the club don’t give a f*ck what you think about their transfer policy
Gotta keep pushing that agenda, despite what all media outlets say
A technical director isn't going to be able to stop agents getting involved. Far as I can see, the situation is being managed as it should right now. No way should we be paying that kind of money.
In all honesty, Bruno does have the right to kick up a fuss. He stayed there despite being attacked by the Ultras some years back, become captain, gave them his all and was denied a move last summer. Now the same shite is happening again - he surely can't be happy about things and should make his feelings known. I don't think the Sporting fans will blame him for wanting to leave.
Yup. If the media reported Sporting hadn't changed their asking price, then he'd take it as gospel.Gotta keep pushing that agenda, despite what all media outlets say
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