A technical or sporting director would have stopped agents "muscling in" on the deal in the first place since he will deal with the selling club directly. Not having one means that our club does not have the footballing connections to get deals done smoothly and resort to agents to push our agenda, which means we pay through the nose.
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So no deal?
Back the club on this one, he’s not worth 68 million, if they want to keep him, please do so.
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We have this reputation of loaded club with incompetent negotiators leads to us being conned and taken advantage of during every signing.
Lastly doing stupid things like overpaying 3m for Fellani after his release clause ends or Herrera and 3 lawyers fiasco. Or overpaying for almost every signing after deeming it too high and eventually giving in has led to every club trying to tale advantage of us.
Agreed. Juve and Bayern for example are very canny this way. They shell out money where they it is required ( Ronaldo, De Ligt, Hernandez etc). But their natural outlook is club which is not loaded and thats why get very good deals because of it.
We have this reputation of loaded club with incompetent negotiators leads to us being conned and taken advantage of during every signing.
Lastly doing stupid things like overpaying 3m for Fellani after his release clause ends or Herrera and 3 lawyers fiasco. Or overpaying for almost every signing after deeming it too high and eventually giving in has led to every club trying to tale advantage of us.
If Sporting raised the fee then fair enough -- walk away and make it know to Bruno that we will not deal with Sporting again. Heard he's a feisty fecker, and has already privately had a run in with the president or at least voiced his discontent -- it's time for him to really become part of the equation -- force a move.
Pogba has done nothing to justify a €150m fee
Ah yes, Woodward's quarterly briefing in full force I see. We'll have our annual one at the end of the window when we sign either nobody or some no-name that won't really improve anything.
But hey, going by this thread and seeing how many people actually lap in his bullshit you can sort of understand how he gets away with it. If it works, it works.
But hey, going by this thread and seeing how many people actually lap in his bullshit you can sort of understand how he gets away with it. If it works, it works.
Get this done, if it's a difference of 20 mill go get an official cat food sponsorship Eddy you genius
OH the conspiracy theories!
*puts on tin hat
NEVER BELIEVE THE CLUB THEYRE ALL OUT TO GET US, THEY ALL HATE US AND THEYRE ALL BAD BAD PEOPLE!
NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING THEY SAY GUYS!!
Fifa Manager is on.
After weeks/month of "negotiations" , it's all come down to this. Offering 60% of their asking price that we knew since last summer. Ed.. oh.. Ed.. It clearly worked with Maguire and AWB last summer eh?
I’m surprised at how many people are saying “just get it done”, would love a poll showing how many would prefer to get it done even if we overpay and those who would be willing to walk away based on the reported €80m
I’d certainly walk away if they’re digging their heels in at €80m.
I’d certainly walk away if they’re digging their heels in at €80m.
Why can't be be dirty like Real and Barcelona where all players and coach praise another team player, making the sell easier? I see Zidane always praising Pogba and here Ole is always playing the good guy saying he doesn't talk about other players.
Yeah unless the EU agree to Boris' demands
£80m now, so €93.88m??Jackson is full of shite
It was clearly a typo. Clicked on the article and it has the 80m euros in it.
So you think Woodward, the Glazers and co really care about us fans, rather than the millions that they make and the share prices? Given past transfer windows, I am always a glass half-empty guy when it comes to our board dealing with any sort of transfer...
It's as much of a conspiracy theory as claiming that spring comes after winter. But as I've said, idiots lap it up and I'm thankful you opted to act as an example.
I’ve not followed this transfer closely but I’d back a stance from the club to not overpay for transfers and not overpay agents.
United have been burnt so many times in the last 6 years. If a player really wants to join they would tell their agents to stop being a greedy cnut and find a solution.
United have been burnt so many times in the last 6 years. If a player really wants to join they would tell their agents to stop being a greedy cnut and find a solution.
Who's Boris?
So who do we go for then when we clearly need better players? Do we wait for summer when Leicester want £90m for Madison or Villa want 50+ for Grealish. We will have no CL to offer them either, where as we make a signing now that could help us get that 4th spot from Chelsea. Overpriced or not he is better that what we have bar Pogba who wants out anyway.
Might as well just extend Lingards contract and keep the money for the Glazers and continue to be shit.
Whoever he says he is to further his career
This is wrong.
No not that I recall
United, if the stories are true, are in a sticky position. Negotiating wise, if they have already gone in with their 'final offer' to go back with an increase will show to future sellers that they can be pushed around.
So the options are to walk away and hope Sporting take it seriously and meet our offer, or to walk away and spend the money elsewhere.
I would have both personally, but I wouldn't have an issue if we took the money, add £10m and took Grealish.
Its difficult because Fernandes is well worth £50m!
So the options are to walk away and hope Sporting take it seriously and meet our offer, or to walk away and spend the money elsewhere.
I would have both personally, but I wouldn't have an issue if we took the money, add £10m and took Grealish.
Its difficult because Fernandes is well worth £50m!
He might have played well in Italy but he's never shown ability or potential at a high level to suggest someone should pay a premium for him.
I think at the end of the day this deal gets done. Sporting desperately need the money, and we desperately need a creative center midfielder but the people running United are accountants/finance people who want to haggle over every last penny, and Sporting it seems have similar nickle and dime types in charge. Ed Woodward also knows if he doesn't get this deal done he will take a very large share of the blame for any struggles we have in the 2nd half of the season.
That's the man who'd get us Fernandes and make Sporting pay for it!
It's Canada's king.
We wanted to strengthen and were in for X player but there was no value in the market. Having Y back from injury is like a new signing though!
Like Ole?
Who's that?
It's Canada's king.
Ed is briefing his sources like crazy today. The excuses have started and it looks eerily similar to Haaland. Embarrassment.
You sure?
Mangala £42m(sold for nowt/zilch/£00.00)
Walker £52m
Mendy £53m
It helps if there is no accountability and you can just meet the asking price to close the deals with the minimum of fuss but City spent circa £150m on three defenders and only one, and that's debatable, has improved the team.
Maybe the club doesn't want to spend any more money backing Ole because they will fire him this summer.
he is good enough for a lot of managers. Poch could use him nicely for example
I agree, and that's precisely why we need a sporting/technical director in charge of transfers rather than each successive manager.
No they wouldn't. There are three parties involved in a deal; you can only control one of three. Don't get me wrong, we need a technical director or a variant of, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't made a single bit of difference here.
I hear that the bonus we've offered us include us winning the PL and the CL. I don't think either party thinks that the bonus will be paid out.
If we had bid over summer wouldn't it have cost Sportimg €5m to Bruno if they had rejected our bid?
Our position is no different now from summer.
It makes me think about Fellaini all over again.
Meanwhile at the Erling Braut and Dybala go on to reinforce their status while we missed out on both...
Our position is no different now from summer.
It makes me think about Fellaini all over again.
Meanwhile at the Erling Braut and Dybala go on to reinforce their status while we missed out on both...
Don't forget Stones. They've spent £225m on their defence and still play a CM back there.
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