The “Ole In” Brigade

I think "Ole in" should be recognised as some sort of disorder or disease. No way anyone would desperately invent BS excuses for this failing manager otherwise.
 
Moyes PL win-rate: 51%
LVG PL win-rate: 51%
Mourinho PL win-rate: 54% (including the part season the fecker wanted the sack)
Ole PL win-rate: 37% :eek: :eek:

Needed repeating to shut this bollox up. Oh, and for the record, all these guys had the same board.

Exactly people group Ole with those managers when saying they’ve all failed, he’s failing to even reach their level and insulting to include their names with his.
 
"its the players!!!1111" seriously.. Burnley have a better squad than our squad that Ole is extremely happy with do they? Have a word with yourself and stop culting just because he used to play for us. No team in this league would touch him, even before he managed us
 
Love to hear from the Ole in brigade after tonight. Yes the team needs investment and that seems to be the main excuse for OGS but how do they explain how we keep dropping points to teams with inferior players?

Everyone knows James is in need of a rest and Greenwood should have started last night. Why can’t he see that?

Thought he set us up well, subs were fine (though i dont see what else we could have done). What concern me is how fecking flat we look at times like we looked today. Maybe its fatigue, but there is zero fight in us it seems.

Honestly, i dont give a toss about who is in the chair (as long as its not Rodgers, think hes a bellend)
 
Love to hear from the Ole in brigade after tonight. Yes the team needs investment and that seems to be the main excuse for OGS but how do they explain how we keep dropping points to teams with inferior players?

Everyone knows James is in need of a rest and Greenwood should have started last night. Why can’t he see that?

Do you personally watch training? Do you speak with the coaching staff? Maybe there are reasons. I don't think anyone that backs ole, is thinking....it will be amazing or that we will be consistent. It takes a lot of time, luck, effort and backing from the board....you can be anyone but if your not backed by the board then you will struggle and they didn't even back Jose. We're not stupid but you have to qualify your questions cause it's easy to just react all the time....

According to you, you can do a better job then ole without advice from all departments. Why not apply for the job?
 
Yes I am getting fed up with this bull shite and also all this Ole is squad. They have no love for Manchester United. Yes we all agree that Woodward has been shite too and yes players will miss chances but we never had a plan and all we do it try to let an individual player try to create. If our squad is so poor and I agree it is piss poor why doesn't Ole go and get any midfield player from PL? Why doesn't he get a striker who is willing to come here for a short period and who is cheap. Fecking Mark Noble will waltz into this side. You give this team to Big Sam and he will make our set pieces right.
Ole Gunnar cannot even organise a piss up in a bar. He is absolutely useless. He shouldn't be in charge of even a bath tub.
 
You all act like the Ole in brigade is responsible for him keeping his job. If 100% of the caf voted to sack Ole do you think Woodward is going to all of a sudden sack him? It will take a lot of empty seats to get that point across.

It's simple. The managers we've had are given enough rope to hang themselves. There have been no signs whatsoever that a world class manager would be given the funds needed to overhaul this squad and rebuild it from the ground up. I don't care if Pep was our manager, Woodward and the Glazer's will not invest like other top clubs. Sure, we get a 2-3 signings in the summers but it's just paper over the cracks. LVG had the biggest player infusion of any United manager post SAF. Who is still here from that time? Mata under Moyes is the only player I can think of that has lasted the test of time and he's rubbish. At what point do you trust any new manager to sign the right players when the large majority of our past signings have turned to shit or moved on? Who is responsible for the poor scouting and recruitment? The manager should have the final say but you can't expect a manager to know the ins and outs of every player we're looking at. That's the scouts job to suggest potential players to the manager.

Ole is the first manager post SAF to genuinely care about United. He's currently working with 3 players he's signed. The rest are Moyes, LVG, Jose, and SAF's only two signings that are left in DDG and Jones. Young is gone and Smalling looks to be gone as well and rightfully so. I'd much rather give Ole more time to sign his players than sack him for a new manager to work with the current crop of shit the previous managers have left. If by the end of next season we don't see a change in the players, style, attitude, and signings, then by all means he should be sacked.

Ole didn't want Darmian, Fellaini, Sanchez or Lukaku. He let Smalling and Young go. Those are all positives in my eyes. If Woodward would get of his ass and sign players for the manager, we'd be in a better place.
 
I don't even care anymore. Until the owners or Woodward is chucked out, it's all the same. I'll still watch matches but I stopped letting it ruin my day several years ago. I suggest you all do the same. Life is too short to cry over something you can't change.
Please advise how to both watch us at the moment, and not allow it to ruin my day. TIA.
 
Yes I am getting fed up with this bull shite and also all this Ole is squad. They have no love for Manchester United. Yes we all agree that Woodward has been shite too and yes players will miss chances but we never had a plan and all we do it try to let an individual player try to create. If our squad is so poor and I agree it is piss poor why doesn't Ole go and get any midfield player from PL? Why doesn't he get a striker who is willing to come here for a short period and who is cheap. Fecking Mark Noble will waltz into this side. You give this team to Big Sam and he will make our set pieces right.
Ole Gunnar cannot even organise a piss up in a bar. He is absolutely useless. He shouldn't be in charge of even a bath tub.
Yet you then go on to blame Ole for not doing Woodward's job for him.
 
Do you think another manager will make any difference? Genuine question. We have tried many others with the same results, the club stinks of shithousery.

100% YES. And they already are with far inferior squads. I am not sure Ole is good enough for league 1 let alone PL.
 
Which players?
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We're on level points with Wolves, one more than Sheffield, and btw 13th Burnley that just beat us are 4 points behind us. They all have better players?

130m spent on defence this Summer, I think we're currently on one of the longest run without a clean sheet?
 
Ole is the first manager post SAF to genuinely care about United.

The bollocks again. You lot chat some shite you do.

Moyes didn't sign anyone cause he wanted to be certain they were right.

LVG made sure he had a small squad so that he could unearth gems like Rashford, bought youth like Shaw and Martial. Also, wasn't a naive nerd and understood that youth also needs to play alongside quality and experience so tried adding some of that too.

LVG cared more I'd say, but that's simply because he has more of a clue how to run a football club.
 
Seen the stat that since he took over we’ve won less league games than Burnley. Pretty fecking hilarious to be honest.

We’re on the right track though and this guy is gonna build United a squad for the future....fecking hell.
 
Thought he set us up well, subs were fine (though i dont see what else we could have done). What concern me is how fecking flat we look at times like we looked today. Maybe its fatigue, but there is zero fight in us it seems.

Honestly, i dont give a toss about who is in the chair (as long as its not Rodgers, think hes a bellend)

Noticed that too, and couldn't figure it out before, but now im pretty sure the players don't believe in Ole anymore. He clearly has no clue what he is doing and the players have picked up on it.
 
45 percent of the goals we have conceded so far this season are from dead ball situations either corners or free kicks, surely this is down to the manager and coaching staff both too recognise and rectify in training. They clearly have failed to do this, so this is only one aspect of the team management and coaching where improvement could be made with better quality coaching and management to over see that coaching.
 
That has been tried with no improvement in results.

Well, except well, the massive improvement in results over Ole of course :lol: And I mean, massive, and getting bigger each passing week.

Moyes PL win-rate: 51%
LVG PL win-rate: 51%
Mourinho PL win-rate: 54% (including the part season the fecker wanted the sack)
Ole PL win-rate: 37% :eek: :eek:

Needs repeating every time you ignore it and post the same nonsense again, this bollox need to be shut up.
 
Tonight wasn't good enough. But then there's no excuses for Martial and Mata missing the chances they did.

I get what you are saying but it's not how football works. For a few seasons now I see people hanging on the couple of chances that we create and miss as if footballers score them all the time. This weekend I have watched Barcelona and Liverpool attackers miss bigger chances but it wasn't that important because they created a lot of other chances. We need to create more chances, it's as simple as that, because players miss chances, top players included.
 
Well considering the last 2 managers did absolutely miles better than this whilst still being not right for United, I'd gonna have to go with yes.

Moyes PL win-rate: 51%
LVG PL win-rate: 51%
Mourinho PL win-rate: 54% (including the part season the fecker wanted the sack)
Ole PL win-rate: 37% :eek: :eek:

fecking stupid question @arthurka. Another making out as though Ole is "only doing as bad as the others", not he aint, he's absolutely awful.
Again they all had old senior players.. but ok let's just keep on pretending that no one had issues with those managers. LVG was killing us and Jose finished the job. Didn't say anything about Ole doing the same, asked a question if people really thought another manager would change anything. I don't think so, with the same overhead it will be the same shitshow..
 
Which players?
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Players that a top manager could work with from that list?

de Gea, Romero, AWB, Maguire, Tuanzabe, Williams, Pogba, McTominey, Fred, Rashford, Martial, Greenwood

Backed up by squadies like Lindelof, Matic, Dalot, Garner, Gomes.

A LOT of managers could add 2-3 players to that and do very well!

He has lost to teams like Burnley, Bournemouth, Newcastle, who were also missing players (so don’t even start about Pogba)

The squad isn’t great, but it is FAR better than what he is doing.

Other teams are messing about, this is a massive chance to get back into the CL and rebuild our crumbling reputation.

Take it out of his hands, now!
 
Again they all had old senior players.. but ok let's just keep on pretending that no one had issues with those managers. LVG was killing us and Jose finished the job. Didn't say anything about Ole doing the same, asked a question if people really thought another manager would change anything. I don't think so, with the same overhead it will be the same shitshow..

My god man, 37%. 13 months in the job. Ole chose to gut his squad, that's on him! Yes people had issues, ultimately none of them were good enough, but all were miles better than Ole and you said "we've tried that and result were no better", and yes they were... miles fecking better.
 
I said it with Jose, sacking him won't fix the mess but it had got to the point where we absolutely had to go. The football was shite and the atmosphere was toxic. He had to go even though there wasn't any real candidate available to replace him at the time.

Now with Ole, the atmosphere isn't bad and the players still are saying Ole's the right man etc. But the football and results are shite. The main reason why I'm Ole has to go is because I believe the right man is available.
 
Players that a top manager could work with from that list?

de Gea, Romero, AWB, Maguire, Tuanzabe, Williams, Pogba, McTominey, Fred, Rashford, Martial, Greenwood

Backed up by squadies like Lindelof, Matic, Dalot, Garner, Gomes.

A LOT of managers could add 2-3 players to that and do very well!

He has lost to teams like Burnley, Bournemouth, Newcastle, who were also missing players (so don’t even start about Pogba)

The squad isn’t great, but it is FAR better than what he is doing.

Other teams are messing about, this is a massive chance to get back into the CL and rebuild our crumbling reputation.

Take it out of his hands, now!
The best bit is that Ole replaced a 'top manager' who signed three of the 'squadies' you've listed as only good enough as back up, whilst another has only looked remotely like a United player in the last couple of months under him.
 
The Ole in lot are doing damage to our club. No you’re not a top red. You’re all deluded fools.

Ole should have gone months & months ago
 
I’m Ole in. I’m not happy with our current run of results or our performances in general this season, but still feel the long term plan of Brexit FC is a good one. I can appreciate others will disagree.

For me, the British youth is currently the best in the world and it’s not wrong trying to build a team out of that. Some patience will be required and it’s going to be shit for a while, but it will get better and we will be trailblazers again. Got to keep the faith guys. This is what foresight looks like before it becomes hindsight.
 
The best bit is that Ole replaced a 'top manager' who signed three of the 'squadies' you've listed as only good enough as back up, whilst another has only looked remotely like a United player in the last couple of months under him.

Just because a volatile Mourinho was a mistake, doesn’t mean a forward thinking, modern manager will do the same! Have we tried that yet?

We have to live with the mistakes of the past, but that doesn’t mean we have to continue to make them.

Would you swap that squad with Sheffield United, Southampton, Newcastle, Crystal Palace or Burnley?

Because they are all within 4 points of us after 24 games.
 
The best bit is that Ole replaced a 'top manager' who signed three of the 'squadies' you've listed as only good enough as back up, whilst another has only looked remotely like a United player in the last couple of months under him.

That top manager had those lads in 2nd though didn't he @Dobba ? With a win-rate of like 68%.

So yeah, a top manager can work with them, it's been proven already. The guy might lose his shit after 3 years as per normal, especially as many did need an upgrade, and especially with this board but, they can be worked with.
 
My god man, 37%. 13 months in the job. Ole chose to gut his squad, that's on him!

You're hopeless.
Ok I am not Ole in, but I struggle to see anyone with any dignity left take over this mess. Not defending Ole at all but this clear out was needed and fans had been waiting for it for a long time.
But according to you I am hopeless so why would I give a toss.
 
Ole said ‘ The players are giving everything, they have done absolutely fantastic so far this season but they know it wasn't good enough tonight.‘


I mean how fcking deluded is this man to think we’ve done absolutely fantastic so far this season
 
The best bit is that Ole replaced a 'top manager' who signed three of the 'squadies' you've listed as only good enough as back up, whilst another has only looked remotely like a United player in the last couple of months under him.
Leicester squad a year ago was good enough for a top half finish and play really bad in most games, whilst under performing the lot of them. Fast forward 12 months they are 14 points clear of the 5th placed team, playing very good football after changing managers and selling their best defender.
 
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Which players?
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It's ridiculously bad.

Imagine in May 2019 someone told you our line up for an important PL game in 2020 would be (common opinions at the time):

De Gea (past his best)
Williams (who? youth team)
Maguire (Leicester)
Jones (useless)
Wan Bissaka (Palace)
Fred (pretty useless)
Matic (finished)
James (Swansea)
Pereira (useless)
Mata (finished)
Martial

Bench
Greenwood (who? Youth team)
Lingard (useless)

I don't want to make excuses for tonight. I expected to win because Burnley are terrible. But is it really that surprising we didn't?
 
For everyone backing Ole because they secretly don't want his legend status at the club tarnished....dont worry, it wont be.

A lot of us grew up watching him every week, the goals from the bench, Champions League Final 99', always playing with a smile on his face, all that. No one can ever take that from him.

But we need to accept he isn't qualified for his current job. We're actually getting worse. If he does truely care for the fans, he needs to step aside now and let someone else give it a pop.
 
It's ridiculously bad.

Imagine in May 2019 someone told you our line up for an important PL game in 2020 would be (common opinions at the time):

De Gea (past his best)
Williams (who? youth team)
Maguire (Leicester)
Jones (useless)
Wan Bissaka (Palace)
Fred (pretty useless)
Matic (finished)
James (Swansea)
Pereira (useless)
Mata (finished)
Martial

Bench
Greenwood (who? Youth team)
Lingard (useless)

I don't want to make excuses for tonight. I expected to win because Burnley are terrible. But is it really that surprising we didn't?
Do that for the Burnley squad. Seems that you always argue everyone else has a better team/squad than United.