Yes but he was given another chance at Dortmund. A relegation on your C.V doesn’t automatically make you a shit manager
The “Ole In” Brigade
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Did Guardiola relegate a side, then get sacked for looking like he was gonna send them to 2 relegations in a row despite bringing in a shit tonne of players? News to me.
Ole coming in directly from the reserves or even Molde part 1 to replace SAF, I could have understood that risk being taken but on a very short leash if he looked incapable. But Ole after 10 years as a manager? feck me no.
Past it manager, what is your point? Should we hire the tea lady then?
Please, you’d be moaning all the same if he had come straight from the reserves.
He won trophies and finished second. If that is a spectacular failure, I dread to think how you'd describe Ole guiding us to our worst season in 30 years.
Compared to Ole Mourinho was a shining light in a sea of shit. If right now you offered me a EL league and a 2nd place finish this season and next with the same money, i'd bite your bloody hand off.
Hindsights a wonderful thing ain’t it
Yeah, if he had a 37% win rate in February of his first full PL season I would, of fecking course.
I said at the time when we hired him he was past it... also his style was never suited to United
Guess what though . Ole isn't past it, he was never it in the first place 12 losses and 11 wins since he became permanent manager.
Good rid of deadwood in it.... that's a trophy it's itself to these lot.
Woop de doo. The second place, never even remotely challenged trophy. The fans were out celebrating on the streets that year.
Can we please stop comparing the two? Ole is not Klopp. They have nothing in common.
Ole is just an admirer of Klopp's high-intensity football. That's it.
Please describe Ole's reign so far.
Wowzers man, this post defies all logic. Ole is doing what exactly then?
You'd bite my fecking hand off too if I told you Ole would be 2nd in the next 3 years, don't fecking lie.
If we are using this logic to determine a better manager, it is pathetic because you could easily put this forward:
Is Ole a better manager than Pep cause we beat them away?
Is Ole better manager than Tuchel?
Is Ole better manager than Jose?
Is Ole better manager than Lampard?
Any given team can perform on a given day, but the Manutd squad at the moment is poor, making it difficult for anyone to get the best out of them.
Do you think Ole tells the players not to fluff chances when we get them?
Everytime Phil Jones plays, we concede loads of goals. Maguire is having to play when he is not 100% fit.
Matic and Fred are asked to play 2 times a week.
Dan James who is a squad player is asked to be our number 1 winger.
Lingard and James are our creative number 10's
We could easily play like Burnley if we wanted to and we would get draws and sneak wins, defend for 80 mins.
You'd want to keep a player like Lukaku for 1 year after the season he's had?
It defies logic to say that Mourinho’s reign wasn’t successful? Ok then
Shit club, shit team.
It's all purely hypothetical. It was LVG who promoted Rashford and Mourinho who promoted Scott. Fergie wouldn't play Pobga ahead of John O'shea and Cleverly in midfield. Pobga fecked off to Juventus and walked straight into their first team and became the hottest young midfielder in the world.
With a shit manager.
How is it that its mostly Ole supporters that use childish slangs like "Woop de doo, good not give a monkeys, boo hoo etc " especially when they dont have a good response
Exactly.
This is an amusing tactic. In order to defend Ole, an inept manager who has led us to our worst season in 30 years, broken all kinds of the records that we don't want to break, and made the team and his signings worse, he is attempting to disparage a vastly superior manager who actually won trophies with us and led us to our highest league position since SAF.
Now, I realise the Ole in crowd aren't the biggest fans of logic, but this is a bold strategy, even with that in mind.
Yes indeed, not nearly as mature and rational as the other side of the argument in all this
You haven't made ANY argument and certainly not a rational one.Yes indeed, not nearly as mature and rational as the other side of the argument in all this
No, that's moronic. It defies logic to claim Mourinho was a spectacular failure whilst supporting a guy doing as Ole is after 13 months. 37% win-rate, he could only dream of having a year with 65% like Mourinho. I mean, feck me, you'd probably be delighted with 50% next season I'd wager.It defies logic to say that Mourinho’s reign wasn’t successful? Ok then
You're not a moron are you? So stop acting like one.
Clearly you don't have a response to what I posted so decided to swerve right and judge on a different timeframe. How many players did Klopp before his first full season where he got Liverpool playing terrific attacking football and to the CL final? How many players in Rodgers add before this excellent season? Ole has spent 150 million and done appallingly. Excuses excuses excuses.
Dealt a bad hand, needs time and money, loves the club etc
You cannot even start to compare the two. Just look foolish.
Also, won the Deadwood Removal Trophy. Only second to the CL round these parts.
In his first full season in charge in 2001–02, Klopp guided Mainz to finish 4th in the league as he implemented his favoured pressing and counter-pressing tactics, narrowly missing promotion. Mainz again finished 4th in 2002–03, denied promotion again on the final day on goal difference. After two seasons of disappointment, Klopp led Mainz to a third place finish in the 2003–04 season, securing promotion to the Bundesliga for the first time in the club's history.[31]
Despite having the smallest budget and the smallest stadium in the league, Mainz finished 11th in their first top-flight season in 2004–05. Klopp's side finished 11th again in 2005–06 as well as securing qualification for the 2005–06 UEFA Cup, although they were knocked out in the first round by eventual champions Sevilla.[30] At the end of the 2006–07 season, Mainz 05 were relegated, but Klopp chose to remain with the club.[32] However, unable to achieve promotion the next year, Klopp resigned at the end of the 2007–08 season.[33] He finished with a record of 109 wins, 78 draws and 83 losses.[34]
Sounds similar to Ole's cardiff spell in fairness, can defo undertstand why you brought it up @GazTheLegend
But isn't it also safe to say that this is the worst United squad in the last 30 years as well. I think it's also safe to assume Mourinho would've been just as bad with a much dire football to watch and a toxic dressing room
Mourinho was a spectacular failure regardless. You’re the moron if you think any different, all the more considering the state of the club when he left. But I’m sure you’ve forgotten all about that.
Yeah, so obviously anyone who has been relegated is going to turn into the best manager in the world. Fergie was sacked from St Mirren as well, so obiviously anyone who's been sacked is going to become the greatest manager of all time. Ole has been a manager for 10 years and no one rates him at the top level. He got his dream job at Man Utd and we have our worst season in 30 years results wise. He's not a succes.
People forget that we actually pay Sanchez still and that he is not gone yet.
Lukaku we badly miss and Herrera too.
He sold Darmian so let's hail him as a genious for that!
I will be out on the streets celebrating if we win a League Cup and the EL and the 2nd place in the PL. Even without 2nd place if we win the EL and a Cup I will hold up my hands and say I was wrong.
The debate is over, you cannot go into next season with Ole as manager, will have lost players by then and no potential signings will take club seriously.
I expect him to survive as will be cheaper to sack him at end of season and most likely successor (Poch) will cost less in compensation.
Anyone with no bias can see how this ends and I doubt there are few of any Utd fans who believe it turns around now.
We're in a worse state now, no matter how much Ole's disciples might trying distorting the truth. We're a fecking mess beyond belief.
This is Ole's squad. If it's worse than when he took over (and that is certainly arguable) then it's on Ole.
Until there's any will for genuine change just keep him, Ole will always be a legend, and who knows he might be the one to finally slay the beast that is Woodward, and maybe even the Glazers.
@Zen86 would too and he'd be claiming Ole the second coming of Sir Alex. He knows it, I know it, you know it.
Anyone Ole in at this point is just a troll.